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#23828781 - 11/13/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is it possible to develop some sort of PTSD from driving? if so, i think i've very well got it. this old faggot and his wife merged into my lane and i fucking lost my shit. there was a dude in a white truck in the lane to my right and he just shook his head at me. fuck that! what gives anyone else to start shit with me on the fucking road! these are fucking dangerous places, and i'm tired of being forced off the road or fucked with, either it's a tailgater, or someone slamming their brakes in front of me.
anyway, i cursed the asshole out and he followed me. i tried losing him in a neighborhood, but he blocked me in, and i had to drive over someone's lawn to get out of the neighborhood. he's def got my license plate, what's he able to do?
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Re: severe road rage [Re: 404]
#23828885 - 11/13/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Try walking. As annoying as it is to see old farts with their blinker on for miles and miles. Walking is so much more dangerous. People don't care if you have the crossing light. They don't care that they are turning and do not have the right away. They will run right over you and keep driving. Some old fucks and their sense of entitlement will actually try to run me and my dog over, smiling. If people were not on all the wrong meds that bury their heads so far up their ass, maybe the world wouldn't smell so bad.
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Re: severe road rage [Re: 404]
#23828992 - 11/13/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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soooo what can this guy do with my information? do the police usually get involved in this kind of thing?
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Re: severe road rage [Re: 404]
#23829013 - 11/13/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds like the guy broke the law. If he recorded you behaving in a way that you describe, it could be some sort of disorderly. Disorderly conduct is a catch all crime.
In Ohio if you do something twice it can be stalking. So if you followed you more than one corner or turn or to your house and drove by again that could be stalking.
If anything you could probably get a restraining order. Then the guy cannot own a firearm or drink alcohol for like 5 years.
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Re: severe road rage [Re: Morel Guy] 1
#23829118 - 11/13/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I used to get INSANE road rage. Like get out the fucking car and get into a fight or smash their car up as they try and drive away kinda shit. I can't even begin to recount the amount of crazy fucked up situations I got into back when I suffered with it.
It all happened before I learned to control my aggression in all of life, which was way out of control anyway - being on the road just made me see red more often than anywhere else.
But now that I've learned to control my aggression, the worst reaction someone will get out of me for nearly crashing into me and hurting due to their negligence (and it happens a lot more that it did back when I had a problem as I'm now on a bike, rather than in a car) is a sarcastic thumbs up.
If you are getting this mad about anything that happens on the roads then you really need to look at your self control in all of life - not just there.
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I feel more tense when driving and it's really hard to relax. once my flight or fight response goes into action however, i lose my ability to control my actions which is typically what happens to most people when flight or fight is triggered.
It's not right for people to be able to do this and get away with it. the other month, some jack ass got out in front of me deliberately and slammed his brakes multiple times. the only thing i did to provoke this was a middle finger when he blocked me in initially. rolled up next to a cop and he did absolutely nothing about it when i mentioned it to him, which i'm really not surprised to be honest
I'ts about 2 hours after and i'm still experiencing difficulties staying calm and the whole scenario is running through my head intermittently, something that i normally do when something like this happens among other things. even if i try to block it, the thoughts still manage to intrude. normally this is a portion of the Obsessive Compulsion i have where i have intrusvie thoughts and compulsions to deal with them.
I know that when there are elevated levels of cortisol (stress hormone) and dumps of norepinephrine, the body creates flash bulb memories as the two molecules work in tandem to enhance memory in serious situations, so maybe that has something to do with it as well.
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Re: severe road rage [Re: 404]
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404 said: once my flight or fight response goes into action however, i lose my ability to control my actions which is typically what happens to most people when flight or fight is triggered.
That's not the case at all man, saying you cannot control your actions is just a cop out to excuse shit behaviour. You can't bullshit a bullshitter; I used to tell myself the same lie all the time. It's the lazy option.
Anyway, you have left out 1/3 of this condition we all face very often:
Fight, Flight or Freeze.
You just need to practice taking the third response. When you do, then you can think and thus choose your best response, which can be far more measured to bring the best outcome. Most often, it is not to do anything.
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Re: severe road rage [Re: 404]
#23829465 - 11/13/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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it's not a cop out, it's a common response when your body dumps massive amounts of adrenaline into your system. I'm not saying that i cannot get this under some sort of control as you have assumed, but i am saying it's fucking difficult.
Right now, i'm still having problems being calm and not agitated.
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Re: severe road rage [Re: 404]
#23829558 - 11/13/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It just feels difficult is all. It's actually very easy in practice to take control. You just have to want to change badly enough - that's the hard bit, cause that's the bit that requires the most effort/determination. The lazy option of running on the same pattern and telling yourself 'when _________ does ________ I just can't control myself'. People often use being in cars as an easy excuse. They certainly provide lots of opportunities to get good and angry.
Personally, life had to kick my ass six ways from Sunday before I changed. I lost so much, and caused so much suffering to strangers and loved ones alike before I started to make the effort. Then I actually realised it was very little effort at all. I had just never really even tried before.
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You drove over someone's lawn and you think the other people are asshole drivers? Get a fucking clue OP. The problem is YOU. People aren't always perfectly courteous and some people are just dicks. Why do you have to respond? Just let it go or stop driving because right now you're a shitty driver and that's on you.
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Grow the fuck up. These aren't crimes. They are people being careless or inconsiderate. It's not a personal slight against you because they have no clue who you are. You simply have to accept that shit happens.
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Fuck you, that guy merged into my lane, i'm pretty fucking sure that's against the law, so shut the fuck up. He blocked my way out of a neighborhood while i was trying to lose him as he was following me, so fuck you again. you're the fucking clueless retard here, moron. That guy merged into my lane, ON PURPOSE. the problem is really bad around here, especailly in the state i'm in... people will try to force you off the road, no matter if they have kids in the car in the front seat or not, get the fuck out of here with that garbage. this isn't just "being inconsiderate" this is an act of violence on the road. the only thing i did was curse that asshole out for having done it
ITS NOT RIGHT FOR PEOPLE TO MERGE INTO LANES WITH OTHER PEOPLE OCCUPYING THEM, IT'S AGAINST THE LAW.
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Anonymous said: You drove over someone's lawn and you think the other people are asshole drivers? Get a fucking clue OP.
seriously though, are you really that dumb, or are your reading comprehension skills just really that fucking bad? You corner me somewhere, and i'm gonna do what i can to get out from that situation. there was no other way out of that neighborhood, one way street... furthermore, what's the point in coming out guns blazing at me having not read the thread thoroughly under the anon guise... to someone that's already having issues keeping calm about this shit? all you've done here is further piss me off. you should either stop posting in MH&WB altogether or be barred for a short time immediately. fuck you.
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Re: severe road rage [Re: 404] 2
#23831471 - 11/14/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You have serious anger issues. Look at the way you go off on me simply because I'm not telling you what you want to hear. And I'm anonymous for a reason - you have a vindictive personality.
Road rage isn't your problem. It's a symptom.
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Re: severe road rage [Re: 404]
#23831623 - 11/14/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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404 said: Fuck you, that guy merged into my lane, i'm pretty fucking sure that's against the law, so shut the fuck up. He blocked my way out of a neighborhood while i was trying to lose him as he was following me, so fuck you again. you're the fucking clueless retard here, moron. That guy merged into my lane, ON PURPOSE. the problem is really bad around here, especailly in the state i'm in... people will try to force you off the road, no matter if they have kids in the car in the front seat or not, get the fuck out of here with that garbage. this isn't just "being inconsiderate" this is an act of violence on the road. the only thing i did was curse that asshole out for having done it
ITS NOT RIGHT FOR PEOPLE TO MERGE INTO LANES WITH OTHER PEOPLE OCCUPYING THEM, IT'S AGAINST THE LAW.
anonymous fuckin' pussy.
You don't own the road you are being psychotic. You need to seek psychiatric help immediately. Normal people do not have this reaction to driving. You are being weak whining to the cops that someone got into your lane in front of you and using non excuses that your flight or fight response makes you lose control. You are an adult. Start acting like one.
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Anonymous said: You have serious anger issues.
Wow! brilliant deduction there, Watson. How long did it take you to figure that one out? Was it... the opening post?
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Look at the way you go off on me simply because I'm not telling you what you want to hear.
That is hardly the reason, and i'll explain why in a minute.
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And I'm anonymous for a reason - you have a vindictive personality.
Road rage isn't your problem. It's a symptom.
This part tells me you are likely someone I know and have personally interacted with in the past, someone who i've likely had a negative interaction with given that you know which buttons to press and how to press them. You've taken a combative stance towards me, and you know the end result from this... in short, instead of openly trying to offer sound advice in a way that you know I may be receptive towards, such as the way Jokeshop has offered, you've gone and dumped a can of gasoline on the fire on purpse. kindly go fuck yourself and fuck off back to the pub if you can't bother to resist the temptation of getting under my skin - if we do know each other, and i suspect we do, you know just how easy it is to get under my skin.
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404 said: Fuck you, that guy merged into my lane, i'm pretty fucking sure that's against the law, so shut the fuck up. He blocked my way out of a neighborhood while i was trying to lose him as he was following me, so fuck you again. you're the fucking clueless retard here, moron. That guy merged into my lane, ON PURPOSE. the problem is really bad around here, especailly in the state i'm in... people will try to force you off the road, no matter if they have kids in the car in the front seat or not, get the fuck out of here with that garbage. this isn't just "being inconsiderate" this is an act of violence on the road. the only thing i did was curse that asshole out for having done it
ITS NOT RIGHT FOR PEOPLE TO MERGE INTO LANES WITH OTHER PEOPLE OCCUPYING THEM, IT'S AGAINST THE LAW.
anonymous fuckin' pussy.
You don't own the road you are being psychotic. You need to seek psychiatric help immediately. Normal people do not have this reaction to driving. You are being weak whining to the cops that someone got into your lane in front of you and using non excuses that your flight or fight response makes you lose control. You are an adult. Start acting like one.
Wow, another faggot that can't fucking read, good job there moron. prove what i fucking said wrong, you can't. Not once did i say or do i think that i own the road. It's against the law to put others lives in fucking danger, and if you think otherwise, YOU'RE the one that needs to seek psychiatric help, fucking imbecile.
What would you do if someone tried slamming their brakes in front of you to get you to have an intentional accident, putting your life in danger? you'd go to the police as well, you little bitch. get fucked.
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Re: severe road rage [Re: 404]
#23831669 - 11/14/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think I've ever been brake checked like that before. Either you're hyper sensitive and exaggerating or you're driving in a manner that stimulates that kind of behavior in other drivers.
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Jokeshopbeard said: It just feels difficult is all. It's actually very easy in practice to take control. You just have to want to change badly enough - that's the hard bit, cause that's the bit that requires the most effort/determination. The lazy option of running on the same pattern and telling yourself 'when _________ does ________ I just can't control myself'. People often use being in cars as an easy excuse. They certainly provide lots of opportunities to get good and angry.
Personally, life had to kick my ass six ways from Sunday before I changed. I lost so much, and caused so much suffering to strangers and loved ones alike before I started to make the effort. Then I actually realised it was very little effort at all. I had just never really even tried before.
What's happening is a learned response given the environment i'm constantly putting myself in, and the shit that i've been through in the past leading to a modulation of my behavior behind the wheel in particular to be both defensive and aggressive as i percieve things that may or may not be to be a direct threat to my life. yes, you're right it's a pervasive problem as it's a conditioning that's carried over into many other parts of my life... however, none seem to be as bad as the one when dealing with other people who directly try to harm my life.
What would you do personally if someone intentionally tried to merge into you knowing you were there? this man looked at me through his side view, i saw it with my own eyes. also, what would you do if someone like this blocked you in a neighborhood, cornering you? I'm asking jokeshop here directly and personally, niether of the two dipshits above.Quote:
Anonymous said: I don't think I've ever been brake checked like that before. Either you're hyper sensitive and exaggerating or you're driving in a manner that stimulates that kind of behavior in other drivers.
Please start reading what i say before you post anything to me in the future. I flicked the guy off as i got blocked in, cut back on the throttle and tried to go around him and get on my way, as he saw that he caught up to me in a Jeep and continuously and ILLEGALLY brake checked me and hard. this is not the original instance i am referring to in the OP, this is a separate occaision.
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#23831911 - 11/14/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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404 I feel your pain man. It aggrevates me to no end how people can drive a 1 ton killing machine so carelessly. If I feel I can do it safely I do drive a bit like an asshole to assholes, or blow my horn and let them know they're a piece of shit. I used to flick alot of people off too but I've stopped doing that cuz people are crazy. Most of the time I opt for screaming profanities at them with my windows up. It helps vent my rage and anxiety and usually they don't notice and I don't put myself in any hairy situations.
Plus it amuses me sometimes the shit that comes out of my mouth. "What the fuck is wrong with you you dickwad asshole!?" and then I can giggle imagining a what a dickwas asshole is
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Thanks for understanding. I really should stop with flicking people off and screaming at them windows down, it clearly doesn't help at all and just adds to the volatility of the situation... people are absolutely bonkers down here, and i'll acknowledge the notion that i may be starting to fall under that list myself..
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#23831941 - 11/14/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Instead of getting angry with bad drivers, be happy they didn't actually do any damage, accept that you can't really do anything about it and enjoy a sense of self satisfaction that you're a better driver than them. But most importantly, don't escalate the situation.
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Re: severe road rage [Re: 404]
#23832550 - 11/14/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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404 said: Thanks for understanding. I really should stop with flicking people off and screaming at them windows down, it clearly doesn't help at all and just adds to the volatility of the situation... people are absolutely bonkers down here, and i'll acknowledge the notion that i may be starting to fall under that list myself..
Yeah man just be safe. Don't let others dangerous behavior rub off on you.
I personally think everyone should have dash cams and a biannual evaluation and a drivers test at least every 10 yrs. Too many people genuinely do not know how to drive.
One thing I will agree with anon on is it is likely that raging on the road is part of a larger issue of unhappiness somewhere else in life. But I doubt you need anyone to tell you that. Whatever it is I hope it gets better
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