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Sexual Abstinence Prior to a Psychedelic Experience
    #23827866 - 11/13/16 03:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hey, all who read this.

I am rather new at this (this being my first ever post on such a forum), so here goes:

As the subject clearly states, I want to know what are the benefits (if there are any, subjectively or objectively speaking) of abstaining from sexual activity prior to taking a psychedelic—in this case, Psilocybin Mushrooms.

I have read a few threads on Psychedelic Experience, but it seems that the subject is more mentioned in passing, rather than given full focus.  Some of the things I have read are interesting.  For example, that the benefits of sexual abstinence are more mental—like the development of self-control—than they are physical.  This makes logical sense.  Are there any users who can give anecdotal evidence of this, or share their own experiences regarding sexual abstinence?

Also, how does one then deal with the sexual frustration that results therefrom.

Apologies if this subject has been dealt with in another place that I just did not find.

Mr Martin.


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Re: Sexual Abstinence Prior to a Psychedelic Experience [Re: Mr Martin]
    #23827872 - 11/13/16 03:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I had to do it when i went to Peruvian amazon to drink Ayahuasca
I abstained for two weeks before then two weeks while i was there plus a few days
I believe its purely mental, the shamans say it assists you in controlling your energy and holding on to it to use it else where
Cant say whether or not it makes a difference, but if you beleive it does than it will


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Re: Sexual Abstinence Prior to a Psychedelic Experience [Re: Filterhead462]
    #23828154 - 11/13/16 07:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I can think of just one good reason for sexual abstinence prior to tripping. And that's to have an absolute MONSTER orgasm during the comedown.

Most normal people (as far as I know) average at least one orgasm a day, either from having sex or masturbating. We all know that if you do it a few times in a day there is less intensity. You need to recharge. Now, skip a day or two or more and there's a build up. Do this and jerk off (or have sex) during the come down. Man oh man... it's nuclear explosion.


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Re: Sexual Abstinence Prior to a Psychedelic Experience [Re: Universe]
    #23828194 - 11/13/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Universe said:
I can think of just one good reason for sexual abstinence prior to tripping. And that's to have an absolute MONSTER orgasm during the comedown.

Most normal people (as far as I know) average at least one orgasm a day, either from having sex or masturbating. We all know that if you do it a few times in a day there is less intensity. You need to recharge. Now, skip a day or two or more and there's a build up. Do this and jerk off (or have sex) during the come down. Man oh man... it's nuclear explosion.




Why during the comedown?
Why not during the peak?
Several times during the peak.
Then several times during the comedown.


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Re: Sexual Abstinence Prior to a Psychedelic Experience [Re: Universe]
    #23828205 - 11/13/16 08:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Universe said:
I can think of just one good reason for sexual abstinence prior to tripping. And that's to have an absolute MONSTER orgasm during the comedown.

Most normal people (as far as I know) average at least one orgasm a day, either from having sex or masturbating. We all know that if you do it a few times in a day there is less intensity. You need to recharge. Now, skip a day or two or more and there's a build up. Do this and jerk off (or have sex) during the come down. Man oh man... it's nuclear explosion.





Most normal people do not orgasm once a day. thats crazy.


Normal people dont need to orgasm more than once a week because they are occupied by things in life that actually matter..like work and learning and stuff.

i hear of people having sex everyday and it shocks me that people can do that..


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


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Re: Sexual Abstinence Prior to a Psychedelic Experience [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23828238 - 11/13/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
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Universe said:
I can think of just one good reason for sexual abstinence prior to tripping. And that's to have an absolute MONSTER orgasm during the comedown.

Most normal people (as far as I know) average at least one orgasm a day, either from having sex or masturbating. We all know that if you do it a few times in a day there is less intensity. You need to recharge. Now, skip a day or two or more and there's a build up. Do this and jerk off (or have sex) during the come down. Man oh man... it's nuclear explosion.





Most normal people do not orgasm once a day. thats crazy.


Normal people dont need to orgasm more than once a week because they are occupied by things in life that actually matter..like work and learning and stuff.

i hear of people having sex everyday and it shocks me that people can do that..





3-5 times a day is pretty normal.

Yeah, work gets in the way, or it'd be more.


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Re: Sexual Abstinence Prior to a Psychedelic Experience [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #23828299 - 11/13/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Whenever I stop masturbating, I just get way more sexually active and horny. It makes everything sexual and makes it hard to focus. I need to do it every once in a while to stay clear, lol.


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Re: Sexual Abstinence Prior to a Psychedelic Experience [Re: Filterhead462]
    #23831816 - 11/14/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks, Filterhead462.

Did you experience any frustration during the abstinence period?  If so, how did you deal with it—or how did the shaman instruct you to deal with it?

Also:  Do you think that abstaining would be a way to show respect to the spirit of the plant/fungus?  I've read that when abstaining that the sacrifice of not having sex just shows (to the spirit) how serious you are about the contact/experience.  Again, it makes logical sense to me.

Any thoughts?


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Re: Sexual Abstinence Prior to a Psychedelic Experience [Re: Mr Martin]
    #23831967 - 11/14/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The thing with abstinence is it develops the control, to harness, not so much the constant release does anything negative, but the control and willpower is the focus of all energy work.


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In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
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Re: Sexual Abstinence Prior to a Psychedelic Experience [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23832115 - 11/14/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It was a little difficult, but i gets easier as you continue to abstain
You are correct about showing respect to the plant spirit, it was stated by the shamans there that Ayahuasca can be a "jealous" type of entity, you wants nothing less of 100% commitment
One of the guys told us a story when we were there about how he had sex the night before drinking and then proceeded to drink 4 cups of strong Aya, his trip was mild at best
I feel it adds something to the experience, self control or commitment, so that itself can defiantly add to it


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Re: Sexual Abstinence Prior to a Psychedelic Experience [Re: Filterhead462]
    #23832499 - 11/14/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Abstaining has many good bennifits especially if you trip with one you love.

It's definatly a great way to show respect for your mushrooms.

It's a good way to learn self discipline.

(Personally) It heightens the mental and physical capabilities of your mind.

It clears your head enough to understand and see how gluttonous one can become after prolonged use of any action.

Although even if you have abstained it can still be hard to reach a climax.

The frustration is something you work with.You just have to use self-control.
When you are horny meditate and send that energy elsewhere.

Either way the wait is always worthwhile.


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Re: Sexual Abstinence Prior to a Psychedelic Experience [Re: Mr Martin]
    #23833011 - 11/14/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I will abstain from sex for the dosing day only. But I will have sex once on a psychedelic if the circumstance is right.

I feel that sex is one of the most impressionable ways in which a human can show another human love. So more sex, not less. :wink:


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Re: Sexual Abstinence Prior to a Psychedelic Experience [Re: TheHumungus]
    #23837813 - 11/16/16 06:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks to all who are giving great and helpful ideas!

Eclipse3130:  I can definitely understand how abstinence can cultivate control.  The simple question I have then is:  How do you use that control in a psychedelic experience?  Is it mainly the will power that you will use to keep focusing on why you took the mushrooms in the first place—the intention?  PS. I am not going to take mushrooms with a guide, but I will have my ever-supportive girlfriend with me to act as a sitter.

Filterhead462: Interesting!  I find the notion of a divine entity (that's not incorrect, yes?) being "jealous" quite peculiar.  Jealousy seems like such a base human/animal emotion.  But with my little knowledge about things through the veil, I have no reason to dismiss such statements.  I have also heard that abstaining may make the experience more intense, which is interesting.  Question:  Will not abstaining also have an impact on the type of experience?  As in:  Will I most likely experience a "bad trip" if I do in fact have sex before ingestion?

zersha:  I like what you said about abstaining and tripping with the one you love.  And I also like the idea that you get to notice how gluttonous you can become.  I do indeed identify with gluttony to some extent, so abstaining seems like a healthy choice.  My intention with abstaining is not to have a sexual experience during my mushroom trip, but more to prepare myself mentally for the experience, and to show respect to the spirit.

TheHumungus:  I completely agree that sex/making love can be the best way to show love to another person, but that is not necessarily what my intention is with taking the mushrooms.

Thanks for all,
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Re: Sexual Abstinence Prior to a Psychedelic Experience [Re: Mr Martin]
    #23837870 - 11/16/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sexual abstinence is before tripping is pretty much every trip for me.


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Re: Sexual Abstinence Prior to a Psychedelic Experience [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23841897 - 11/17/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah i found the notion of jealousy quite strange as well but i belive its just a label us humans use to describe the fact that they say ayahuasca wants you to reserve all your energy and if you dont she will not give you 100%

As for having a bad trip, i dont believe it will contribute in a negative way but abstaining will defiantly have a positive effect, the trip will know your sacrifice and you will know your sacrifice
Its like eating cheeseburgers the day of your trip, you will still trip but if you made the sacrifice to eat better food it may have made the trip better


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Re: Sexual Abstinence Prior to a Psychedelic Experience [Re: Filterhead462]
    #23841923 - 11/17/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Makes sense though.

There's definitely some kind of 'energy' to holding that shit in.


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