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why cant i grow shrooms well anymore?
    #23827291 - 11/12/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

all my grows seem to fail these days. first couple went amazingly well, but since then ive had problems with mold, fresh air exchange, bad spores and contamination. On my most recent attempt, they seemed healthy but then all contaminated in the second week.


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Re: why cant i grow shrooms well anymore? [Re: Peyote Road] * 3
    #23827328 - 11/12/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Edited by ChemicalSpark (03/23/20 09:01 PM)

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Re: why cant i grow shrooms well anymore? [Re: ChemicalSpark] * 2
    #23827440 - 11/12/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If you fail, try again.  and again  and again.  based on the small amount of info you supplied, I'd say you're not holding your mouth right. 

What are you doing?


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Re: why cant i grow shrooms well anymore? [Re: Kenetic]
    #23827476 - 11/12/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Kinetic is right on that one: try and try again cause you will get it right and continue once you understand your mistakes. Just look into more sterile methods and research your spore providers to insure quality or do it yourself :crazy2:


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Re: why cant i grow shrooms well anymore? [Re: Peyote Road] * 1
    #23827480 - 11/12/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

In the end it always comes back to making sure your spawn is healthy.  I think its a good idea to periodically do a thorough cleaning on your grow space as well.  If you've had any tubs go bad and you didn't remove it in a timely fashion it could cause problems down the road.

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Re: why cant i grow shrooms well anymore? [Re: frankwhite85]
    #23827513 - 11/12/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: why cant i grow shrooms well anymore? [Re: van hatton] * 1
    #23827551 - 11/12/16 10:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This is a great example of why the hard asses are hard asses. Anyone can have success with most methods once or twice, hell even a hundred times. But eventually the vectors catch up. When they do sporeloads are higher and inoculate sources compromised. Success becomes harder to grasp.

OP I don't know how you are growing or if you are cutting corners or what. But you need to eliminate vectors. That needs some stringent procedures to be adhered to.

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Re: why cant i grow shrooms well anymore? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23827560 - 11/12/16 11:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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This is a great example of why the hard asses are hard asses. Anyone can have success with most methods once or twice, hell even a hundred times. But eventually the vectors catch up. When they do sporeloads are higher and inoculate sources compromised. Success becomes harder to grasp.

OP I don't know how you are growing or if you are cutting corners or what. But you need to eliminate vectors. That needs some stringent procedures to be adhered to.



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Re: why cant i grow shrooms well anymore? [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23827629 - 11/12/16 11:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So what pastywhyte said, and what others said about clean spawn. Once you see trich dude, you're bound to see it again, you succeeded before when there wasn't a large spore load. Now you need to have clean spawn. Sounds easy but it fuckin ain't. The place to start tho is agar diligency, which will also in turn teach you proper sterile techniques :laugh:


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Re: why cant i grow shrooms well anymore? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23827932 - 11/13/16 04:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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they seemed healthy but then all contaminated iyn the second week.



was this contamination in your jars, or after they were taken out.

If you can successfully colonise grains in jars you could consider growing sclerotia producing species.

If you cannot even colonise grains cleanly you could look into using agar, if you do not already. You can clean the place as mentioned. I sometimes do initial work in a totally different building.

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Re: why cant i grow shrooms well anymore? [Re: blackout]
    #23827957 - 11/13/16 05:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It might be helpful to buy an air purifier and let it run for some time before you start to work in your room. I have an air purifier that helps me a lot with my hay fever. The purifier could also help to reduce the spore load a bit. As the others wrote try to improve your sterile technique and work with agar (it helps a lot).
Good luck

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Re: why cant i grow shrooms well anymore? [Re: enlightenment]
    #23827971 - 11/13/16 05:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Look into getting a SAB, or flowhood and move onto agar. I can guarantee you will see less contams.


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Re: why cant i grow shrooms well anymore? [Re: enlightenment]
    #23827993 - 11/13/16 05:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Did you over pasteurize (sterilize) your tub sub?  That takes about 2 weeks to turn green.


Hopefully you got a sab already.


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Re: why cant i grow shrooms well anymore? [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #23828253 - 11/13/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Problem 1. Mold retrace your steps to what caused your mold. You didn't specify but ill assume its post jar phase.. Clean up that spawn!

Problem 2. FAE. Easy to fix. Post pics of set up. Wait for critique.

Problem 3. Bad spores? Happens. Germinate on agar
otherwise you will be playing the 'crapshot' lottery. You will loose:(

Posting pics/more details would help. Pretend you are at a psychiatrist office.
They need to hear more then 'my shits fucked' to help

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Re: why cant i grow shrooms well anymore? [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #23828281 - 11/13/16 08:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I am working through a similar slump myself.  In retrospect, all of my recent failures can be attributed to dirty spawn.  IMO obtaining clean spawn is the most challenging and trying aspect of cultivation.  Pretty sure I've learned enough from my failures now that sweet success is on the horizon.  Persistence and patience are nessicary tools for learning cultivation.

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