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Dmt_psilocybin
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Nervous about prolonged mushroom trip
#23827375 - 11/12/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So, iv'e heard about people triggering psychotic episodes on mushrooms from underlying mental conditions. I don't have any family history of schizphrenia or anything but addiction does run in the blood. Would this be possible being a sociopath? There's not specific levels or degrees of it but the severity differs upon the individual. I consider myself having a pretty low form of it. It's kind of psychopathy and sociopathy mixed together. The terms are misunderstood. Anyways i'm not some crazy motherfucker who goes around killing animals and shit. I lack empathy and sympathy for humans. Not animals in fact it's the complete opposite for animals. Anyways, could i trigger some psychotic episode and have a prolonged trip? like a couple days or something out of high doses? I use mushrooms spiritually most of the time so i tend to take pretty high doses.
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MrBlueYoMind
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Re: Nervous about prolonged mushroom trip [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
#23827414 - 11/12/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's possible. Have you ever tried MDMA? It induces feelings of empathy and might help you learn the ropes.
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Dmt_psilocybin
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Re: Nervous about prolonged mushroom trip [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
#23827434 - 11/12/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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MrBlueYoMind said: It's possible. Have you ever tried MDMA? It induces feelings of empathy and might help you learn the ropes.
I actually recently (in the last month) did MDMA twice for the first times. I don't recall any feelings of empathy. So, how likely would it be to trigger one? If it did happen, how could i stop it? I have college classes work etc to deal with daily. I've done a lot of different substances with no problems and psychadelics such as extracted LSA, mushrooms, and cannabis. Well that fucking blows.
Also might i add the sociopathy isn't too severe. I've never had any kind of mental breakdown or had it control me. When iv'e been addicted to certain subatances in the past it seems to make it worse.
Now, could mushrooms even have an adverse effect even treating sociopathy?
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Edited by Dmt_psilocybin (11/12/16 09:53 PM)
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MrBlueYoMind
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Re: Nervous about prolonged mushroom trip [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
#23827470 - 11/12/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It could make it better, it could make it worse. It's a crap-shoot with mental illness and one can't say for sure something like "Stay below this dose to not trigger mental illness" or "Don't do it more than X amount of times to prevent mental illness." I feel like sometimes tripping helps me out of depressions and funks and other times I have lasting psychological effects (especially paranoia from weed) and increased hypnagogic hallucinations and thought loops/mind clutter. Most of the time it makes me more aware of my environment/surroundings and more appreciative of everything, and extra kind towards all life.
Did you use MDMA in a social setting? At what dose? I recall when I was first using MDMA I would have thoughts and feelings about my family and the people I cared about and it reminded me how much I care about them and appreciate the people in my life and it allowed me to be more open with people I didn't know. It was very therapeutic for me in many ways.
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Re: Nervous about prolonged mushroom trip [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
#23827486 - 11/12/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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MrBlueYoMind said: It could make it better, it could make it worse. It's a crap-shoot with mental illness and one can't say for sure something like "Stay below this dose to not trigger mental illness" or "Don't do it more than X amount of times to prevent mental illness." I feel like sometimes tripping helps me out of depressions and funks and other times I have lasting psychological effects (especially paranoia from weed) and increased hypnagogic hallucinations and thought loops/mind clutter. Most of the time it makes me more aware of my environment/surroundings and more appreciative of everything, and extra kind towards all life.
Did you use MDMA in a social setting? At what dose? I recall when I was first using MDMA I would have thoughts and feelings about my family and the people I cared about and it reminded me how much I care about them and appreciate the people in my life and it allowed me to be more open with people I didn't know. It was very therapeutic for me in many ways.
Both times i used MDMA i was alone in my room. Wasn't bad, first time i popped one pill. Second time i bought two and did the weirdest thing ive ever done which was plugging. I was very very intense but nothing to spectacular though the next day was extremely pleasant feelings. I'm not worried about the mushrooms making it worse, but i'm worried about having a trip lasting longer than one night (i usually dose around 10 pm i stay up till like 3 am every night so it plays together well) I'm just worried about it interfering with classes and work.
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MrBlueYoMind
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Re: Nervous about prolonged mushroom trip [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
#23827530 - 11/12/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mushrooms last 4-6 hours and might make it harder to fall asleep for a lil bit. I think HPPD is rare with mushrooms.
If you're talking like while you trip and you get worried you're going to get stuck in the trip, that happens to me too sometimes. That is when a trip sitter comes in handy to remind you that it's just a drug and will wear off. I find weed exacerbates the paranoia. They can produce life-changing experiences though, good and bad. Not exactly being stuck in a trip, but they can also trigger schizophrenic symptoms if you have family history.
No one can say that it's impossible to trigger psychosis. Some people come away from the experiences with messiah complexes and things of the sort so it's a gamble either way. Also there was this MMA fighter who ripped his roommates heart out and ate it while on mushrooms so with a psychopathy/sociopathy spectrum disorder I'd tread lightly.
Maybe try MDMA with a good friend or in a social setting like a rave/party/concert. I personally enjoy it with friends in a cozy environment, but it can be fun at a show as well.
Good luck.
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Re: Nervous about prolonged mushroom trip [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
#23827554 - 11/12/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have used mushrooms for most of my adult life, I am 40+. I have also dealt with mid-severe mental illness due to just shitty luck in life as a kid and with significant others. I can honestly tell you I have NEVER had a mushroom experience that in my mind, or those around me strengthen my illness. I HAVE, however, on numerous occasions had very positive, empathy and sympathetic experiences. When I recently decided to hault the use of ALL prescription drug use I was able to transition rather smoothly with the use of Kratom, MMJ and microdosing psylocibin. I have lowered my dosages of both Kratom and marijuana recently that I might get more from life, as a lifetime addict it is becoming increasingly crucial. I'd say to you to just keep your doses reasonable and don't put yourself in bad situations man. You sound much mentally healthier than me, and I do rather well. If you are going to dose alone maybe tell a close friend to keep their phone handy and such. It is marvelous that you are aware of your mental condition, that is step 1. I really do not like to call my situation "illness", I am just different. Sounds like you are the same, you can obviously hold a job and attend classes lol. Take it easy and if you ever need to chat feel free. Dick
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MrBlueYoMind said: Mushrooms last 4-6 hours and might make it harder to fall asleep for a lil bit. I think HPPD is rare with mushrooms.
If you're talking like while you trip and you get worried you're going to get stuck in the trip, that happens to me too sometimes. That is when a trip sitter comes in handy to remind you that it's just a drug and will wear off. I find weed exacerbates the paranoia. They can produce life-changing experiences though, good and bad. Not exactly being stuck in a trip, but they can also trigger schizophrenic symptoms if you have family history.
No one can say that it's impossible to trigger psychosis. Some people come away from the experiences with messiah complexes and things of the sort so it's a gamble either way. Also there was this MMA fighter who ripped his roommates heart out and ate it while on mushrooms so with a psychopathy/sociopathy spectrum disorder I'd tread lightly.
Good luck.
I am more of a lone tripper. i feel i experience more, my last trip was about 45 grams fresh of pan cyans and that was intense to say the absolute least. i was talking to myself throughout it to try and understand what information i was uncovering. Anyways, i appreciate your help.
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A.RichardTrickle said: I have used mushrooms for most of my adult life, I am 40+. I have also dealt with mid-severe mental illness due to just shitty luck in life as a kid and with significant others. I can honestly tell you I have NEVER had a mushroom experience that in my mind, or those around me strengthen my illness. I HAVE, however, on numerous occasions had very positive, empathy and sympathetic experiences. When I recently decided to hault the use of ALL prescription drug use I was able to transition rather smoothly with the use of Kratom, MMJ and microdosing psylocibin. I have lowered my dosages of both Kratom and marijuana recently that I might get more from life, as a lifetime addict it is becoming increasingly crucial. I'd say to you to just keep your doses reasonable and don't put yourself in bad situations man. You sound much mentally healthier than me, and I do rather well. If you are going to dose alone maybe tell a close friend to keep their phone handy and such. It is marvelous that you are aware of your mental condition, that is step 1. I really do not like to call my situation "illness", I am just different. Sounds like you are the same, you can obviously hold a job and attend classes lol. Take it easy and if you ever need to chat feel free. Dick
interesting That's good to hear. I'm probably psyching myself out over nothing. I don't have any family history of psychosis or schizophrenia. i don't like refer to it as an illness either. It's one of those things that are majorly misunderstood. Marijuana was psychologically more difficult for me to come off of than prescription opiates. Still having some trouble. I also don't mind my situation as you refer to it either. Everyone experiences reality and thought patterns differently. Thank you though, i'll probably shoot you a pm in the future.
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Re: Nervous about prolonged mushroom trip [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
#23827819 - 11/13/16 02:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dmt_psilocybin said: So, iv'e heard about people triggering psychotic episodes on mushrooms from underlying mental conditions. I don't have any family history of schizphrenia or anything but addiction does run in the blood. Would this be possible being a sociopath? There's not specific levels or degrees of it but the severity differs upon the individual. I consider myself having a pretty low form of it. It's kind of psychopathy and sociopathy mixed together. The terms are misunderstood. Anyways i'm not some crazy motherfucker who goes around killing animals and shit. I lack empathy and sympathy for humans. Not animals in fact it's the complete opposite for animals. Anyways, could i trigger some psychotic episode and have a prolonged trip? like a couple days or something out of high doses? I use mushrooms spiritually most of the time so i tend to take pretty high doses.
You might come to a point where you understand who you are whether it's a sociopath or not, what's important is that you're honest to yourself about it so that you can use it as a foundation of self respect.
In essence it could change/give you a new perspective that you may not be able to forget but physically you are not in danger if you have correctly identified magic mushrooms as they have a very low toxicity and an LD50 rating near that or marijuana. You'd need to quickly eat 20kg to die.
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