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FC selection help?
    #23827269 - 11/12/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hey all

So, it's my first grow and i have 4 pint brf jars that are almost fully colonized after just under 3 and a half weeks (thai lipa yai)

I cannot decide the fruiting chamber. I would like to spawn to a bulk substrate. Photos that i've seen of yields birthed as just cakes simply don't satisfy me i was thinking about using this tek.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14995972/fpart/all/vc/1
Anyone had any success with this? Would a monotub or dub-tub be better? I've pretty heavily researched a lot of fruiting teks but i can't decide which one.
Any input besides "It's your first grow birth as cakes in a sgfc" is greatly appreciated.


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Re: FC selection help? [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23827302 - 11/12/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

SG fruiting chamber or one of those indoor greenhouses are what I've used with success.

Please note that you should not use aluminum pans to hold the cakes, they get eaten and full of holes, and who knows how much aluminum ends up in the final product.


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Re: FC selection help? [Re: MarcTheMushroom]
    #23827325 - 11/12/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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MarcTheMushroom said:
SG fruiting chamber or one of those indoor greenhouses are what I've used with success.

Please note that you should not use aluminum pans to hold the cakes, they get eaten and full of holes, and who knows how much aluminum ends up in the final product.




Did you birth as cakes or spawn to a bulk in trays or something?

And good to know, maybe a larger tupper ware for container or something of the sorts would work.


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Re: FC selection help? [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23827507 - 11/12/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

In my experience using monotubs, a well made one will allow you to just let it run with minimal risk of contaminates. Do not use clear material to hold your substrate in FC because a lot of pins will form on sides and possibly underneath, due to light exposure, where they waste nutrients for other mush up top.

this might help, the design of his holes in the tub is a good air exchange pattern https://www.shroomology.org/forums/topic/46-how-to-grow-shrooms-in-bulk-monotubs/


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Re: FC selection help? [Re: SporeDaddy]
    #23827527 - 11/12/16 10:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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SporeDaddy said:
In my experience using monotubs, a well made one will allow you to just let it run with minimal risk of contaminates. Do not use clear material to hold your substrate in FC because a lot of pins will form on sides and possibly underneath, due to light exposure, where they waste nutrients for other mush up top.

this might help, the design of his holes in the tub is a good air exchange pattern https://www.shroomology.org/forums/topic/46-how-to-grow-shrooms-in-bulk-monotubs/




A liner is added in the tub to prevent alot of air exchange on the sides of the sub.

As the fruits grow the sub shrinks and pulls the liner with it to keep the fresh air out.

Light is not a huge factor in fruiting like plants it has its role but its not a huge problem for side pINS.


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Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy.

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Re: FC selection help? [Re: van hatton]
    #23827545 - 11/12/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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SporeDaddy said:
In my experience using monotubs, a well made one will allow you to just let it run with minimal risk of contaminates. Do not use clear material to hold your substrate in FC because a lot of pins will form on sides and possibly underneath, due to light exposure, where they waste nutrients for other mush up top.

this might help, the design of his holes in the tub is a good air exchange pattern https://www.shroomology.org/forums/topic/46-how-to-grow-shrooms-in-bulk-monotubs/




A liner is added in the tub to prevent alot of air exchange on the sides of the sub.

As the fruits grow the sub shrinks and pulls the liner with it to keep the fresh air out.

Light is not a huge factor in fruiting like plants it has its role but its not a huge problem for side pINS.



If i were to do a monotub it would probably be damions 50/50 tek. Also, i known mushrooms are light sensitive meaning wherever the light is they'll grow towards it. Besides a liner what else could be used to prevent side pinning?


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Re: FC selection help? [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23827571 - 11/12/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You will always have some pins form on sides, though it should not affect your overall yield since they abort before taking away too much nutrients. All in all just dont worry about side pins, just worry about making perfect conditions for the ones that will grow on top (which is most).


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Re: FC selection help? [Re: van hatton]
    #23827576 - 11/12/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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In my experience using monotubs, a well made one will allow you to just let it run with minimal risk of contaminates. Do not use clear material to hold your substrate in FC because a lot of pins will form on sides and possibly underneath, due to light exposure, where they waste nutrients for other mush up top.

this might help, the design of his holes in the tub is a good air exchange pattern https://www.shroomology.org/forums/topic/46-how-to-grow-shrooms-in-bulk-monotubs/




A liner is added in the tub to prevent alot of air exchange on the sides of the sub.

As the fruits grow the sub shrinks and pulls the liner with it to keep the fresh air out.

Light is not a huge factor in fruiting like plants it has its role but its not a huge problem for side pINS.



This.....


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Re: FC selection help? [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23827587 - 11/12/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

for four cakes, a small SGFC would be a great option.


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Re: FC selection help? [Re: SporeDaddy]
    #23827590 - 11/12/16 11:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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SporeDaddy said:
You will always have some pins form on sides, though it should not affect your overall yield since they abort before taking away too much nutrients. All in all just dont worry about side pins, just worry about making perfect conditions for the ones that will grow on top (which is most).



Oh i see, that pinset in your sig looks sexy. Is that a monotub? And is it a tek or an improved tek by yourself?


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Re: FC selection help? [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #23827596 - 11/12/16 11:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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for four cakes, a small SGFC would be a great option.



In bulk trays or fruiting just as cakes?
From the photos iv'e seen yields from just cakes in sgfc's are way way too low for my liking. I mean if i can get a lot more from bulk and do it right why not.


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Re: FC selection help? [Re: SporeDaddy]
    #23827621 - 11/12/16 11:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You will always have some pins form on sides,



Never say always :wink: if you've mastered how to properly keep the surface hydrated with nice FAE, you'll see many grows with no side pins. Even when you don't use any liners


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Re: FC selection help? [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23827647 - 11/12/16 11:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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WeavieWonder said:
for four cakes, a small SGFC would be a great option.



In bulk trays or fruiting just as cakes?
From the photos iv'e seen yields from just cakes in sgfc's are way way too low for my liking. I mean if i can get a lot more from bulk and do it right why not.




Fruiting as cakes. Bulk is definitely more bountiful.  I am not sure if you can inoculate bulk sub with cakes with success or not.  Haven't tried cakes before.


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Re: FC selection help? [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23827922 - 11/13/16 04:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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SporeDaddy said:
In my experience using monotubs, a well made one will allow you to just let it run with minimal risk of contaminates. Do not use clear material to hold your substrate in FC because a lot of pins will form on sides and possibly underneath, due to light exposure, where they waste nutrients for other mush up top.

this might help, the design of his holes in the tub is a good air exchange pattern https://www.shroomology.org/forums/topic/46-how-to-grow-shrooms-in-bulk-monotubs/




A liner is added in the tub to prevent alot of air exchange on the sides of the sub.

As the fruits grow the sub shrinks and pulls the liner with it to keep the fresh air out.

Light is not a huge factor in fruiting like plants it has its role but its not a huge problem for side pINS.



This.....





What about it am I wrong?


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Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy.

Caps McGee said:
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Fun part is figuring out what works best for you


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