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Killaloting
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No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" *DELETED*
#23826980 - 11/12/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Post deleted by KillalotingReason for deletion: Olld nonsense
Edited by Killaloting (11/13/16 05:01 AM)
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23826997 - 11/12/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just wait for the regulars to annihilate shit...
Edited by Josex (11/12/16 07:53 PM)
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23827000 - 11/12/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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A real tek has pics at least. If you've actually done this yourself I'd assume you took pics?
Just in case the modern world hasn't noticed, pressure cookers are readily available for low $
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Kenetic] 1
#23827057 - 11/12/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You should rename it the "Not gonna fucking work worth a shit" Tek. I wonder what your definition of a successful experience is?

I'm usually pretty tolerant of noobs, but noobs posting "teks"??
Who's next?
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: WeavieWonder] 1
#23827113 - 11/12/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Da fuq???
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PinPornProducer said: Da fuq???
Yeah I know right? It's fucking awesome! This is the end-all-be-all of teks if you wanna grow some serious mashrooms. Where has this guy been all this time? Damn and to think I just bought a pc for nothing
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Josex] 1
#23827338 - 11/12/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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this made my day but I got pepsi all over my laptop now... "alternative to PC is simply dont sterilize your grains at all" 
the right answer would be steam for 8hrs...if anyone wondered. always sterilize your grains.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: spacechildo] 1
#23827380 - 11/12/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is a troll right? The most useless attempt at relevance I have seen.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: WeavieWonder] 4
#23827382 - 11/12/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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WeavieWonder said: You should rename it the "Not gonna fucking work worth a shit" Tek. I wonder what your definition of a successful experience is?

I'm usually pretty tolerant of noobs, but noobs posting "teks"??
Who's next?
You are tolerant of noobs???? You ARE A NOOB
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23827393 - 11/12/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Troll was my first thought, cuz this shit is just ridiculous
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: spacechildo] 1
#23827398 - 11/12/16 09:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo said:
the right answer would be steam for 8hrs...if anyone wondered. always sterilize your grains.
Can't you just, like, microwave it for 8 hours instead? I really don't see what the difference would be. And I already have a microwave. 1000 volts yo.
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It's art, actually.
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WeavieWonder said:
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spacechildo said:
the right answer would be steam for 8hrs...if anyone wondered. always sterilize your grains.
Can't you just, like, microwave it for 8 hours instead? I really don't see what the difference would be. And I already have a microwave. 1000 volts yo.

in the spirit of this thread alright!
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Kenetic] 1
#23827428 - 11/12/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Surprised nobody has written a freeze your grains to sterilize tek yet
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A.RichardTrickle said:
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WeavieWonder said: You should rename it the "Not gonna fucking work worth a shit" Tek. I wonder what your definition of a successful experience is?

I'm usually pretty tolerant of noobs, but noobs posting "teks"??
Who's next?
You are tolerant of noobs???? You ARE A NOOB 
I am new a noob to the forum(officially), but not to cultivation. Post whore.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: WeavieWonder] 2
#23827456 - 11/12/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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same dif.
Guilty until proven innocent, on the shroomery that is
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Kenetic]
#23827466 - 11/12/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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kenetic said:
Guilty until proven innocent, on the shroomery that is
That statement holds water.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting] 1
#23827652 - 11/12/16 11:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Please keep this priceless information to yourself.
No one wants the failure that this will inevitably bring...
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: morty422] 1
#23827695 - 11/13/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I honestly didn't even read this shit. Looks like it took a lot of effort to write too. I wonder when I'll be helping someone who used this xD
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23827712 - 11/13/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Killaloting said:
I made lc from spores
The cherry on top
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23827776 - 11/13/16 01:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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No.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: ComebackKid]
#23827822 - 11/13/16 02:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not Everyone here Speaks english as main language.
If ur experinced grower why read the most simple/lazy and cheapest ways ive sen here? And even bother postning??
My guess is ur jealous i get same results in alot less time 
I clearly state its maybe not sterile but after 1,5h Hard boil popcorn Will not be contaminated after sealed properly.
I am updating it With pictures, and it wont work With Rice substrates as they most Likely produce Mold, though semi successive using regular lawn grass seeds, it seem popcorn dont contam Very easily after being boiled for 90min Believe or not i dont Care
A brf cake u cant breath on before it turns green is my experinced.
This is in fact not a troll been experimenting for a few years had lots of fails using the brf tek, Mold before even colonisation begin or after first Harvest without a vermiculit "barrier" it was close to 100% fails, so i personaly like this better cause of simplicity. I Have Made total of 75jars using This method With 0 contam, as said before even leaving a jar without injecting culture did not show contams.. If it wasnt close to sterile i guess contams would appear being left without any competetive colonisation?
This is basicly for thoose Who cant start a 24h+ project, this was done While wifey was asleep. In about 3 h all and all (creating jars, lids, cooking,dry, cooling, injecting)
The alternative steps: microwave and oven i really thing is close to sterile, just as sterile as in ur pc in fact, but take my Word for it I never gotten Mold on any of my popcorn attempts.
I dont think you realize That even if Other methods are better, it might just not be an alternative for some due to different circumstances, IF u live alone and can spend 24h on soaking and another few hours With a pc then do so but this works to.
I was actually looking to order a pc before using This simple method.
All work was done in the Kitchen, i think the key is to not exposé medium heated/room temp wet corns to air, seems to work if u make the transfer While they are still hot even if u skip the alternative steps.
I actually expected contams this is why im so happy. Total money spent was 12$ each 25 jars. The filter/injektion ports was normal plasters if thats the Word for the thing u put on wounds 
Amazingly simple, good enoght success ratio, haters can continue to hate (or try get themselves a woman, or at least try get layed)
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Surprised nobody has written a freeze your grains to sterilize tek yet 
Worth looking into. I Will try since u brought it up
I am also gonna try open flame sterilisation of The top layer only since thats usally where my brf contams starts.
U guys With 1000+ post can stop try to get attension in my thread please, just embarrasing u can create new threads of ur own if ur gonna compete about having the most post counts.
Sincerely/K
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting] 1
#23827836 - 11/13/16 02:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Killaloting said:
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Surprised nobody has written a freeze your grains to sterilize tek yet 
Worth looking into. I Will try since u brought it up
I am also gonna try open flame sterilisation of The top layer only since thats usally where my brf contams starts.
U guys With 1000+ post can stop try to get attension in my thread please, just embarrasing u can create new threads of ur own if ur gonna compete about having the most post counts.
Sincerely/K
Bullshit is not my first language.... But I can definitely tell when one is speaking it.
Please go away.
Your advice is exactly what the mods and the veteran users of mush cult strive this forum to NOT be...
Take your ridiculous ill-proven method elsewhere...

The "1000" count users here don't want you to spread your herpes-ridden cancer to other members.
Hell, if someone with 1 post came into this thread and said your post was bullshit I would side with them......cause...uh... It's bullshit.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: morty422]
#23827871 - 11/13/16 03:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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As stated like 100 times this isnt for veteran users, so you all veteran users can take ur veteran badge and go read other methods as you have more and better equippment and willingly and able to spend more time in this "hobby".
TBH I think your guys attitudes agains newer people is what mods are NOT looking for but let them answer that themselves.
Here is my very latest project this is used coffea with filter and everything microwaved only, the lids isnt even a tight seal and no contams yet and growt is starting now already in day 2.


On picture 2 there is a few normal rice in middle of it, the plan is just to see if they start to mold when placed there because i know for a fact that if I placed them ontop they would be.
To clearify, this post is not intended for any "veteran" user, there is way more failproof methods as said in the thread already and if your veteran your probably already have ur isolate and petridishes and whatever, this is a:
"SIMPLE CHEAP "BUSH-STYLE-DIY-METHOD" THAT WILL PRODUCE MUSHROOMS, IN SOME CASES YOU MIGHT GET CONTAMINATED AND THERE ARE FAR MOR ADVANCED METHODS WITH BETTER SUCCES-RATIO BUT THIS HAS BEEN FAILPROOF FOR ME!"
Now stop the of topics and spam, serious questions input will be answered. others will be reported.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: morty422]
#23827875 - 11/13/16 03:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If your as much veteran as you claim then you would know that this will work under right circumstances while its far from failproof, remember that what your doing is in fact illegal slandering, lets not sink to that level mr. know it all veteran style.
"Prime Minister Berlusconi is the first to say that freedom of the press is very important, but the freedom to insult, to deceive, to defame and to slander is something altogether different."
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Killaloting said:
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Surprised nobody has written a freeze your grains to sterilize tek yet 
Worth looking into. I Will try since u brought it up
I am also gonna try open flame sterilisation of The top layer only since thats usally where my brf contams starts.
U guys With 1000+ post can stop try to get attension in my thread please, just embarrasing u can create new threads of ur own if ur gonna compete about having the most post counts.
Sincerely/K
Bullshit is not my first language.... But I can definitely tell when one is speaking it.
Please go away.
Your advice is exactly what the mods and the veteran users of mush cult strive this forum to NOT be...
Take your ridiculous ill-proven method elsewhere...

The "1000" count users here don't want you to spread your herpes-ridden cancer to other members.
Hell, if someone with 1 post came into this thread and said your post was bullshit I would side with them......cause...uh... It's bullshit.

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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Kenetic]
#23827884 - 11/13/16 03:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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kenetic said: A real tek has pics at least. If you've actually done this yourself I'd assume you took pics?
Just in case the modern world hasn't noticed, pressure cookers are readily available for low $
Yes there will be pictures 
Yes it can be availible cheap, here they are around 70$ but i started my project with less then 5$, im basicly experimenting for an okay non-advanced method, I wont claim its the best lol.
But there are other factors that maybe unable you to go buy one or even have one at home etc etc.
The point is to make a method that requires nothing, wich will be the ultimate goal to spend 0$ or at least as close to 0 as possible. Of course that will probably and most likely not turn out as well as if you spend 10s or even 100ds of dollars.
sincerely
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WeavieWonder said: You should rename it the "Not gonna fucking work worth a shit" Tek. I wonder what your definition of a successful experience is?

I'm usually pretty tolerant of noobs, but noobs posting "teks"??
Who's next?
Tbh i dont know the meaning of "tek" i thought its just a method used, i typed "tek" for that reason.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: spacechildo]
#23827893 - 11/13/16 04:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo said:

this made my day but I got pepsi all over my laptop now... "alternative to PC is simply dont sterilize your grains at all" 
the right answer would be steam for 8hrs...if anyone wondered. always sterilize your grains.
Didnt you learn to read in school? o.0
"Im not saying this is a way to sterilize grain but it will be sterile enoght for myc growt ,i recommend adding the extra steps to get a lower fail ratio."
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Josex]
#23827895 - 11/13/16 04:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Josex said:
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PinPornProducer said: Da fuq???
Yeah I know right? It's fucking awesome! This is the end-all-be-all of teks if you wanna grow some serious mashrooms. Where has this guy been all this time? Damn and to think I just bought a pc for nothing 
Okay that was pretty funny
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23827897 - 11/13/16 04:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sorry OP. But this tek is horrible information and should be kept to yourself. This so called tek is way more complicated than just hydrating grains and a PC run of 90 min. My Pc holds 7 quarts and I doubt you can keep up with that rate.
You say you've done 100 jars? Zero percent contamination fate is straight bullshit. Let's see more than 2 (and learn how to add pictures so they aren't huge. The search function can help you with that.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: 2shoes]
#23827905 - 11/13/16 04:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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2shoes said: Sorry OP. But this tek is horrible information and should be kept to yourself. This so called tek is way more complicated than just hydrating grains and a PC run of 90 min. My Pc holds 7 quarts and I doubt you can keep up with that rate.
You say you've done 100 jars? Zero percent contamination fate is straight bullshit. Let's see more than 2 (and learn how to add pictures so they aren't huge. The search function can help you with that.
Seems like you just like the other vets cant read ,this is for people without a PC and without the possiblity or willingly to ever get a hold of one but still want to try produce mushrooms.
Nowadays I do as in this video but using colonised grain ,shaked every jar well and turned every jar into 4x small aluminium cases wich i also know isnt recommended but they were free of charge and you take what you have and yes they did burn thru the foil but mushrooms kept coming up.
But of course i dont cook spawned substrate i mean i take colonised shaked up corns in the bottom and then a layer of vermiculite it did work well with perlit aswell.
I dont use chambers I use the plastic bags filter kind, easy to store and dirt cheap, made 2 of theese myself.
The first batch i spawned from the jars i think its called introverting? this produced alot less of fruit 
Edited by Killaloting (11/13/16 04:48 AM)
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23827913 - 11/13/16 04:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pf tek is already here for those without a Pc. Let's see your fruits as well as your trays and fruiting chamber.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: 2shoes]
#23827925 - 11/13/16 04:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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2shoes said: Pf tek is already here for those without a Pc. Let's see your fruits as well as your trays and fruiting chamber.
Yes it is, but that requires alot of effort compared to how I do it, I have had great succes with PF tek though its just not as quick/stealthy as it can be if it has to be...
I will be updating with more pictures next week as I will take 1 picture every day or two from now on to prove that this does work since people dont seem to think it does, I have better stuff to do then trolling on message bóards, been member since 2014... I dont get it why people tend to get offended when i succed without a PC???
Its kinda childish, let worse equipped people working on a time limit under stealth conditions have their way and people with no limits use their way but if that way isnt a choice then why not?
Im not sure if I can post identifyable mushrooms if you know what I mean but I will post progress of myc growth from beginning to 100% colonisation in all my projects from now on I always do batches of 25 600gram jars i dont know what that is in pint.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23827962 - 11/13/16 05:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That is nothing because grams are weight and pint is volume..
The problem is that grains need 8 hours of boiling. No one has a problem with not needing a PC, but 90 minutes of boiling on grains is shit. If you want to boil for 90 minutes, hit up the pf tek.
Edited by Mad Season (11/13/16 05:27 AM)
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting] 3
#23827963 - 11/13/16 05:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Mad Season]
#23827970 - 11/13/16 05:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: That is nothing because grams are weight and pint is volume..
The problem is that grains need 8 hours of boiling. No one has a problem with not needing a PC, but 90 minutes of boiling on grains is shit.
Nothing true at all with what you said.
Im not saying 8 hours is worse but 1h 30min is perfect in my opinion and you will have enoght proof soon 
Actually not even a single sign of contam on my current batch, 50-90% colonised already
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23827973 - 11/13/16 05:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I can 100% guarantee your definition of a clean jar is much different from mine.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Mad Season]
#23827976 - 11/13/16 05:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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it looks alot better then ur petri dishes thats for sure. pure thick white fluffy all over, no wet spots nothing.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23827980 - 11/13/16 05:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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cmon dude.....
Are you really gonna drag this out? I'd suggest letting this thread disapear before everyone starts waking up lol
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Kenetic]
#23827988 - 11/13/16 05:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I suggest you tell santa your mother does not want him to visit this year, since you been a bad boy.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23828000 - 11/13/16 05:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Killaloting said: it looks alot better then ur petri dishes thats for sure. pure thick white fluffy all over, no wet spots nothing.
My contam art is beautiful :P. Thick eh? That's what I use to explain mycelial bacterial reactions...
Oh and do you really want me to pull RR quotes and shit? 90 minutes of boiling grains doesn't work if you want 100% success. Your measly 100 jars is nothing on RRs 20000+
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Steam sterilization doenst have enough penetration power to get into the heart of the grain and kill all the contams hidden within it. 15 PSI for 1.5 hours the pressure built up within the PC gets into the heart and kills the contams. BRF on verm everything is exposed the steam has contact with everything and kills all the contams
This is incorrect.
Pressure doesn't penetrate, because the jars or bags are at the same pressure. The pressure simply allows the boiling point to raise, thus making the steam hotter.
You're also incorrect that steam sterilization does not work for grains. I live in the mountains where water boils well below 212F/100C and I get 100% success with 7 pound rye berry bags, steam-sterilized at atmospheric pressure for 8 hours.
One can use a pressure sterilizer for a shorter amount of time, or atmospheric sterilization for a longer time. 8 hours gives me one hundred percent success for supplemented sawdust, as well as grains. The proof of this is zero contamination in the last +/- 20,000 substrate blocks done this way. RR
Also this method has been practiced and attempted to be proven wrong so much over the course of 15 years. Everyone now unanimously agrees 8 hours is needed for 100% success. The people who skimped out on it eventually found they either need a PC or go for 8 hours. You may think otherwise, but it's just a matter of time.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting] 1
#23828003 - 11/13/16 05:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lmao his last remark made me chuckle uncontrollably
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: spore-ty]
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23828011 - 11/13/16 05:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Umm for most people on this forum this is a hobby.
WTF am I looking at in the second picture?
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23828014 - 11/13/16 05:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Killaloting said: As stated like 100 times this isnt for veteran users, so you all veteran users can take ur veteran badge and go read other methods as you have more and better equippment and willingly and able to spend more time in this "hobby".
TBH I think your guys attitudes agains newer people is what mods are NOT looking for but let them answer that themselves.
Here is my very latest project this is used coffea with filter and everything microwaved only, the lids isnt even a tight seal and no contams yet and growt is starting now already in day 2.


On picture 2 there is a few normal rice in middle of it, the plan is just to see if they start to mold when placed there because i know for a fact that if I placed them ontop they would be.
To clearify, this post is not intended for any "veteran" user, there is way more failproof methods as said in the thread already and if your veteran your probably already have ur isolate and petridishes and whatever, this is a:
"SIMPLE CHEAP "BUSH-STYLE-DIY-METHOD" THAT WILL PRODUCE MUSHROOMS, IN SOME CASES YOU MIGHT GET CONTAMINATED AND THERE ARE FAR MOR ADVANCED METHODS WITH BETTER SUCCES-RATIO BUT THIS HAS BEEN FAILPROOF FOR ME!"
Now stop the of topics and spam, serious questions input will be answered. others will be reported.

Such a lazy tek that you can't even remove the labels off the jars? How do you know what behind the labels are clean?
Pretty sure those are going to be a bacterial mess
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Mad Season]
#23828025 - 11/13/16 06:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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you have made close to 10.000 posts but have you ever read one?
obviously not, go back and read what it says and then u can edit your reply so you at least appear to be one of the more educated enoght to read posts before you reply to them.
Also you know very little about sterilisation, its all about temperature, but again, i did not say its sterile its just sterile enoght for a live culture to get a good havest, obviously.
There is not much difference in putting something at 120C in the oven or 120C in ur PC its still all about getting the substrade to the correct temperature for the correct amounth of time, to be 1000% sterile you might need 24h even but that is not necesary im saying.
"Hot air is among the most efficient sterilisationsmethod available, because it seems to sporefree and sporecarrying microorganisms. Superficial sporfree bacteria is killed at 90 ° C - 95 ° C within 1/4 hour, if the air has a moisture content of 60% relative humidity. Pests and its eggs are killed by 60 ° C hot air of 30 min. Streaming steam of 100 ° C killing anthrax spores, typically within 5 minutes, sporfria bacteria in 1 minute. Boiling water of 100 ° C have approximately the same effect as the flowing steam of the same temperature. Sporfria bacteria, including some pathogens, killed by heating in water, milk or similar liquids at 65 ° C, for 15-30 minutes at 80 ° C within one minute. The process wherein sporfria killed bacteria in milk, called pasteurization. Another way of sterilizing is using an autoclave where the object to be sterilized is placed in a pressure chamber. Saturated steam enters under pressure, heating of the estate is done by the steam releases its heat energy to the surfaces on which it condenses, this condensation continues until the entire cargo mass reached steam own temperature, such as 134 ° C for 3 min, and kill every living including spores in the container."
translated from swedish wikipedia
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: X2QE]
#23828034 - 11/13/16 06:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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X2QE said: Umm for most people on this forum this is a hobby.
WTF am I looking at in the second picture?
hehe it is an experiment, i have made 2 test spawns of used coffea grounds with the filters everything just put in jars, microwaved for 2x2 min and then added culture.
Ive added a few just normal boiled rice in the middle of 1 just to se how it affects the growt but also perhaps yield, i do suspect I will get that one contaminated, im kinda sure but so far so good, but I have only bad experience using thoose kinds of substrades that sticks to eachother etc its just not good, but i know for a fact that if they were placed ontop they would be mold magnets, maybe in the middle of everything they wont contaminate the shit i dont know its experimental, i do this everyday, different experiments
I have even grown on toilet paper roll dunked in boiling liquid coffea with great succes.
as you say its a hobby
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23828042 - 11/13/16 06:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you have any pics of mushrooms grown with this method?
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23828044 - 11/13/16 06:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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if u would just put some pictures up of ur process and pictures of the results, it would be a lot less easy to underhand you.
in my minds eye when I stretch my imagination to its fullest limit, I could see how there is a slim slim chance that boiled grains and SUPER sterile technique could work in a short timeframe, but u'd need a heavy live mycelial inoc rate and a very clean place, and I still think the chances would be super slim, and I wouldn't count it as a success unless I saw fruits
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23828055 - 11/13/16 06:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Killaloting said: you have made close to 10.000 posts but have you ever read one?
obviously not, go back and read what it says and then u can edit your reply so you at least appear to be one of the more educated enoght to read posts before you reply to them.
Also you know very little about sterilisation, its all about temperature, but again, i did not say its sterile its just sterile enoght for a live culture to get a good havest, obviously.
There is not much difference in putting something at 120C in the oven or 120C in ur PC its still all about getting the substrade to the correct temperature for the correct amounth of time, to be 1000% sterile you might need 24h even but that is not necesary im saying.
"Hot air is among the most efficient sterilisationsmethod available, because it seems to sporefree and sporecarrying microorganisms. Superficial sporfree bacteria is killed at 90 ° C - 95 ° C within 1/4 hour, if the air has a moisture content of 60% relative humidity. Pests and its eggs are killed by 60 ° C hot air of 30 min. Streaming steam of 100 ° C killing anthrax spores, typically within 5 minutes, sporfria bacteria in 1 minute. Boiling water of 100 ° C have approximately the same effect as the flowing steam of the same temperature. Sporfria bacteria, including some pathogens, killed by heating in water, milk or similar liquids at 65 ° C, for 15-30 minutes at 80 ° C within one minute. The process wherein sporfria killed bacteria in milk, called pasteurization. Another way of sterilizing is using an autoclave where the object to be sterilized is placed in a pressure chamber. Saturated steam enters under pressure, heating of the estate is done by the steam releases its heat energy to the surfaces on which it condenses, this condensation continues until the entire cargo mass reached steam own temperature, such as 134 ° C for 3 min, and kill every living including spores in the container."
translated from swedish wikipedia
So none of those things are even talking about endospores or grain media... Grain media is filled with air pockets that act as insulation from heat.. So literally none of those examples work. That's why you need to have it boiled for 8 hours, and can boil liquid media to sterility in an hour tops.
So if it isn't about having sterile grains, why is the most important aspect of this hobby clean spawn?
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: blindingleaf] 1
#23828056 - 11/13/16 06:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I tried this method last night 
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Since ur polite enoght to not include childish accusations or curse words ima give you an honest reply, yes there has been fruits, there will also be more fruits.
Mycilium growth in my country is legal but not all fruits from it is... how do you guys solve this? Or is it just a risk your willing to take?
And your right this wont be 100% failproof forever, that would just be redicoulus but that ive had this much succes so far, means that it can be worth for someone to try that maybe never will try if it means investing in to much stuff, thats the whole point that people here doesnt understand, Like i can tell you the best way how to grow stuff and it will cost you 100.000 us to start it or i can suggest another way for small timers that has no serious interest ( at least yet ) so they try and get more interested and therefore perhaps advance, this isnt posted in advanced mycology thread ,its clearly stated its not a bulletproof sterilisation method, all its saying is how i have done, and that it works for me.
Why dont you go ahead and try it on 1 jar? And place your input here so can you help silence the haters 
It will cost you roughly 40 cents, i can send u a few prints for the hustle
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A jar he sent me in PM for everyone to see. I mean it's not the worst jar, but thick, lumpy, disorganized, and wet uncolonized looking grains is bacterial.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Mad Season]
#23828066 - 11/13/16 06:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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And place your input here so can you help silence the haters
this is ur job as the OP of the write up.
that you tube video seems more likely to succeed
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23828077 - 11/13/16 06:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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means that it can be worth for someone to try that maybe never will try if it means investing in to much stuff, thats the whole point that people here doesnt understand, Like i can tell you the best way how to grow stuff and it will cost you 100.000 us to start it or i can suggest another way for small timers that has no serious interest ( at least yet ) so they try and get more interested and therefore perhaps advance
I can understand the logic behind this but if you seriously want to help, try to structure your "tek" a little better because it is border-line incomprehensible. Just sayin
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There problem here is that we have a contam prone grain like popcorn, unsterilized and exposed to open air (according to the wording of this tek). If by some miracle that isn't contamed, the fruits from that grow should be cherished.
Eventually these practices will bite you in the ass and it won't be fun. Fruiting the grains as an unbroken colony is going to help keep the bacteria from getting too far ahead but the way you have exposed media eventually mold is going to get a foothold and that will be the end.
No one here is a hater. But we all see that when methods like this one go unchallenged, a few weeks later dozens of threads pop up with people having mold farms on their hands and the OP of the thread in question long gone. If this method works for the OP that is fine. I know that I couldn't make it work and I have grown a mushroom or two.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23828084 - 11/13/16 06:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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There's no way I could make it work either. My homes spore load is a fuckin mess
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Since everyone is begging for it... im gonna video the whole procedure 
Easier then trying to translate everything anyway, there is alot difference from grain to grain, as air pockets etc as someone mentioned.
This is why I only suggest using popcorn for this method, i have tried cutting corners on other substrates and failed miserly, even WBS mix failed using this method, wheat failed ,oatsmealed failed (this was the worst one hehe 100% fail ratio)
but here it has been working just fine, amazingly good, i mean even if a few jars will contaminate its no biggie, perhaps its some super durable myc, this was a sporeprint from sporebaby here on this site and its a fast colonisator i dont remember its name though.
If you cant understand the point of the post then dont reply cause you will only destroy the interest for thoose who as I said arent willing to invest as much.
And I will prove its working so just wait, current batch i plan to fruit this week or next week. so its almost time to make a new anyway, have a good sunday everyone
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23828090 - 11/13/16 06:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Popcorn has the worst endospore counts of any grain. Just because it's lower nutrition doesn't mean mold won't grow on it either. It's not a magic mold proof grain. Seriously you have perhaps gotten lucky but I promise that it won't hold up.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting] 1
#23828096 - 11/13/16 06:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is just speculations but heres is what i THINK happens,
When you have boiled it for 90min popcorns will be as sterile as needed, Im not even hesitating on that one anymore, now when you open the lid slightly to add the paper to suck up the hot steam the steam prevents bacteria from rushing down in the pot since hot air moves upwards pushing it up in direction out of the pot, when its not very hot anymore it is EXTREMELY prone to any airpollutions yes, this is why i recommend the extra step, after ur jar is filled put at 120c in oven 1h minimum i can go anywhere from 1h to 90min and at least 120c to 130c its so u cant touch the glass with ur bare hands or u will loose your fingerprints it instantly burns ur skin so its pretty hot by now.
But If your time is VERY limited meaning u dont have the extra time for this step u can try transfer from pot to jars without doing it, of course this will have higher fail ratio but you need no extra equippment and this costs you less then 1$ a jar no mather if you use the extra way or not.
If you use something like u use to rince pasta i dont know what its called, and doesnt do alternatives steps, you are likely to get a 100% contam ratio since it will be to exposed and for too long, this is just guessing but I will tell you when i get contams and even show them, it havnt happned so far why would i lie when we all share the same hobby 
now guys take care gotta run ill be back next week, video tutorial of the LazyTek.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23828100 - 11/13/16 06:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is more complicated that buying a Pc for sure.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: 2shoes] 1
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: 2shoes]
#23828105 - 11/13/16 07:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol the lazy tek is buying a PC and using a SAB. It's actually stupid how easy it is to do
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Mad Season]
#23828119 - 11/13/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Of course you dont have to agree, everyone finds their own methods, my interest started when i found out you could clone a living mushroom using only eggcarton material this was my first monoculture i think? Now im back to multispore so u might say im going the wrong direction hehe
But since it sounded so easy ofc I tried, and u know what... it worked, its theese simple solution that doesnt req stuff you dont already have that maybe opens up interest for someone else like me.
Im not asking anyone to downgrade their current procedure lol
If cloning a mushroom would have required a PC i would never gotten into mycologi from the start, but since I have been trying wierd stuff, side projects now cept the coffea thing is beer saturated grains ,beer saturated verm , Toilet rolls dunked in beer ( since dunken in coffea worked why not ), some different fertilisers N based.
But If I am correct the grains are especially prone at certain temperatures, while they are still steaming hot I claim they arent as likely to survive even if they land on the popcorns surface, its mostly speculations but since it worked?
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pastywhyte said: There problem here is that we have a contam prone grain like popcorn, unsterilized and exposed to open air (according to the wording of this tek).
The open air transfer is a big issue. People are talking about 8 hours, in case any beginners are reading that these people mean steaming the grains in jars for 8 hours. Boiling grains for 8 hours would turn them to mush, as most would have guessed.
If these grains were 100% sterile to begin with this tek is still unlikely to work, due to this open air thing.
I do think it could work once in a while. I do not believe 75 jars worked 100%, and that the uninoculated jar was fine (I wonder how long it was left). Remember he only said the reheating bit is optional, the 75 jar claim seemingly were transferred to jars and capped and not heat treated again. If it is true then you are incredibly lucky, I would be doing the lottery if I was you, then buy a PC with your winnings.
People making jam have used this "transfer while hot" method, they will pour hot jam into jars, cap them, turn them upside down so any airbourne contams mix into the hot jam and are hopefully killed. But high sugar jam by its nature would be more resistant.
I have wondered if any grains out there are irradiated, if his were it would be more believable.
I have done methods sort of similar to what he calls for, well the theory anyway. I pressure cooked popcorn and other grains to hydrate them, then transfer to jars and microwave them. My lastest 2 did work out for me, but I am PCing at up to 20psi, and microwaving for 30+mins or so after. Popcorn has the advantage that it is does not overhydrate too easily. A jar of popcorn steamed for 90mins will not be at 100C for that time as you need time for the core to heat up, while in the pot surrounded by water it is heated quicker, this is what I liked about using the PC to hydrate grains at high pressure. However as it takes so long to hydrate the core of the grain is not hydrated for a lot of that 90mins.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting] 1
#23828257 - 11/13/16 08:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The very first time I ever attempted to grow I did it similar to how you've described.
Very soon after, with over a dozen slimy jars ... I bought a PC.
Any luck you're having is just luck. I've done the same and seen the same too many times because friends and I tried to be cheap.
Any noobs reading this - don't do it. If you can't afford a PC I SUGGEST sticking with the PF or alike.
Remember the PC isn't just for the pressure. Well, it is for the pressure but because it allows the heat to rise enough to kill off the baddies.
I'm not going to flame but I'm going to say I strongly disagree with this.
I believe "No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek"" Should have been "I had no PC and felt Lazy so here's how I got Lucky".
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Mad Season] 2
#23828261 - 11/13/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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A jar he sent me in PM for everyone to see. I mean it's not the worst jar, but thick, lumpy, disorganized, and wet uncolonized looking grains is bacterial.
That jar photo was taken from this site. A guy called Kron from Capetown South Africa
https://mycotek.org/index.php?gallery/albums/popcorn-cake.394/
I got suspicious to see a Swedish guy reading a newspaper with English so did a reverse image search. The ball type jars also made me suspicious, a guy with no PC in Sweden investing in them.
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: blackout]
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: OfTheVoid46]
#23828268 - 11/13/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good job blackout.
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I didn't think this thread would even make it past page 1...
his pics (the ones he didnt steal) doesnt even have grains in them... and they still look contamed as hell! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23827871#23827871
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: spacechildo]
#23828411 - 11/13/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This guy still hasn't posted any pictures.
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Yea I think he just seen the first sign of white growth and labeled it a success tbh. Anyone serious about a tek they write up would have pictures to prove its success imo
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WeavieWonder said: You should rename it the "Not gonna fucking work worth a shit" Tek. I wonder what your definition of a successful experience is?

I'm usually pretty tolerant of noobs, but noobs posting "teks"??
Who's next?
You are tolerant of noobs???? You ARE A NOOB 
I am new a noob to the forum(officially), but not to cultivation. Post whore. 
As am I..... and I like it when people talk dirty to me on the interwebz, you like my post whore ways don't ya sweetheart?
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OP, pictures or it didn't happen. Your plagiarism isn't helping your case either.
Like someone said, this will do more damage to beginners thinking they will have the same success you claim. It's counter productive for this hobby.
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Tight Lunchbox said: This guy still hasn't posted any pictures.
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PinPornProducer said: Yea I think he just seen the first sign of white growth and labeled it a success tbh. Anyone serious about a tek they write up would have pictures to prove its success imo
if you look at the link I posted there's 2 pics, but none of them have any popcorn in them or seem to have followed any of the steps OP outlined in his TEK. probably stolen pics as well, cant be bothered to search them
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: spacechildo]
#23828494 - 11/13/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea I seen white rice, I'd like to see you hardboil rice for 20 min let alone 90
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Grey]
#23828642 - 11/13/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Grey said: OP, pictures or it didn't happen. Your plagiarism isn't helping your case either.
Like someone said, this will do more damage to beginners thinking they will have the same success you claim. It's counter productive for this hobby.
I think we just call this being a piece of shit looser.
Misleading people is the opposite of being shroomy.
I enjoy the no flaming rule quoted though, as if OPs post isn't insulting in itself
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence So please don't try to make a noob magnet with zero results posted
Edited by bodhisatta (11/13/16 10:54 AM)
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: bodhisatta]
#23828663 - 11/13/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If op wanted to help the community he'd stop posting, use the search function and read until he's blue in the face. Until then a troll he is. His rating haven't been ruined yet haha
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting] 2
#23828814 - 11/13/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Killaloting said: Read so many posts now saying u cant sterilize grain without pressure cooking.
Ive never owned one and had only succesfull experience lately so i thought id share.
I usally use popcorn cause of easy to get also semi tolerant to air contams.
I never used any cleaning or peroxide or anything like that either just tap water.
Now here is a "lazy tek"
-Add popcorn grains to ur cooking pot of choice (remember they will almost double in size) -Add oil -Add a pinch of butter -wait for popping noises -Add salt and pepper.
-Add like twice as much tap water. -Hard boil for 1h 30min no more no less or u get to dry or wet grains. -Remove water without opening the lid u want every drip to go out dont rush here, in a quick motion open lid and cover with household paper or toilet paper and lid back ontop, u dont want paper touching tje grain, let dry for 10*min -Transfer the grain to your jars -** alternative step -inject ur LC as soon as the temperature is below 25-30c (usally takes an hour, will depend on size of jars, remember core temp is always higher then outside of jar) -Give it a good shake -after 5-7 days give it another good shake. (You should have at least 15% visible colonisation)
DONE
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23828842 - 11/13/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: PirateSwazey]
#23828933 - 11/13/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Man I'm working on a tek that I've been hesitating to publish because I thought it might be a little unpolished. This shitpost of a thread really put things in to perspective...
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Greg]
#23828988 - 11/13/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol I saw this last night before I went to bed and couldn't wait to check in this morning.
Don't be so self conscious Greg! I'm sure you'll be putting something nice together
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Greg]
#23829047 - 11/13/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's hard sometimes working yourself up to dropping a tek, I know I have had some sit in the journal for months. I took almost a year to release my invitro straw and had to be blackmailed into dropping the easy agar tek.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23829058 - 11/13/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your ez agar tek was a game changer, probably one of the most important teks on the site
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: mushboy] 1
#23829087 - 11/13/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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if you search like ten years + back pp5 is mentioned in no pour agar
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: filthyknees]
#23829119 - 11/13/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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No pour has been around for a long time. My only hope was to do a good job making it easy and comprehensible. I can't believe how many views it has tho.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23829133 - 11/13/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: It's hard sometimes working yourself up to dropping a tek, I know I have had some sit in the journal for months. I took almost a year to release my invitro straw and had to be blackmailed into dropping the easy agar tek.
No doubt! Don't see many Pirate teks out there do ya 
I'm still waiting to harvest my first grow before I write any...
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: PirateSwazey]
#23829140 - 11/13/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shit in that case pirate shouldn't you have a book written. I know you 
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Pastywhyte] 1
#23829626 - 11/13/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've learned so many things from reading this thread. The first post does not contain any of them.
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Hey OP while you're handing out 0s to people who are smarter than you, I'll take one. If you have any left anyway.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Inocuole]
#23831516 - 11/14/16 08:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Inocuole]
#23831653 - 11/14/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Hey OP while you're handing out 0s to people who are smarter than you, I'll take one. If you have any left anyway.
Damn that's pretty funny
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Inocuole]
#23831786 - 11/14/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Hey OP while you're handing out 0s to people who are smarter than you, I'll take one. If you have any left anyway.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23831919 - 11/14/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: 2shoes]
#23833269 - 11/14/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I never claimed thoose where mine but there do live Swedish people in South africa 
I do claim that my myc looks exactly like that though, every one of them.
here is from grow 1 this was a few months ago:

I used a Little bit smaller jars i Think 400g back then and while incubating plasters as filters, these were all placed to fruit alot to early but still performed after a while.

this was the second grow, here I made bigger jars the 600g as im currently using , and theese were used to make 4x aluminium oven trays each ,cased with verm and straw pellets, the ones you buy for your pets ,this increased yield 5x+ and used electic taped napkins as airvents, wich i feel was a upgrade to plasters since the tape like Close the injection hole better after injecting LC. While in oven I only have foil covered then replaced with the napkin/tape combo after taken out of oven, This is just two Days after shaking it was like 25% colonised, here its like 90%, I also started using bigger bags at this Points since the Square aluminium trays didnt fit in theese smaller ones ,it did result in that I had to spray more often to keep same humidity, I never use peroxide when doing this.
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Video is coming when I do next batch, I will consider posting Pictures of the finished gourmet mushrooms i have some things i need to clear out first.
For the 4th grow I will use an fruiting chamber since it takes up less space then all bags, however keeping them in bags was a pre caution since if one would contaminate pretty much Everything would be ruined but now im Confident enoght to Place em all in same space.
Hope you looking forward to the video, I bet you all will love my accent, I would love it if people below the age of 30 left my thread alone, that goes if you cant act like an adult aswell no mather what age you are.
Im injecting each jar with 1ml of LC that is heavily colonised, even after shaking alot you need a pink needle to suck it out and its not as watery as many others ive seen its like 90% liquid and 10% living myc id guess i can post a Picture of that aswell, I need bigger pumps as I use only 2.5ml at moment so every batch is 10 pumps and 11 syringes, I use 1 to fill all of the pumps and 1 each on every pump to inject with , I never re-use my injection Tools when i did this in the past i have failed even after heating needle so i prefer not, the LC contains beer wich I find works Amazing.
Question, does this site log IPs on the posts/threads?
Sincerely /K
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
#23833285 - 11/14/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow. That really is a napkin. This just keeps delivering.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23833288 - 11/14/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23833295 - 11/14/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hehe I still use this method, however I have invested in heat tolerant silicone but I know not everyone will invest in that so Im leaving that out for now ,however I have a few jars done this way nowadays.
I will Clean this up later since the goal is to produce a reliable lazy cheap tek no matter what you guys Think of it.
Can anyone help me with what the TEK really stand for?
Is it Growing technique?
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
#23833303 - 11/14/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Killaloting said:

Bacterial as fuck at the very least. See the wet-looking, uncolonized grains?
What is your lid made of? Don't tell me it is what it looks like
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Kenetic]
#23833319 - 11/14/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That wasnt bacteria, it was a Little hot this was in the summer it was Close to 32C inside and after shakin and this batch was boiled 1h 35min wich was 5 minute to long and they created condense in the heat wich affected the bottom after shaking, Before shaking it actually was mostly colonised from injection Point and down top wasnt colonised but bottom was but then the heat wave came and it turned the opposite.
They did all turn fluffy White i did not fruit theese to early as the others since they were transfered.
AND YES, IT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE STUFF YOU CAN WIPE YOUR ASS WITH OR SNEEZE YOUR NOSE WHATEVER hahahhaa
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
#23833331 - 11/14/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Kenetic]
#23833344 - 11/14/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
#23833345 - 11/14/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im currently working on cardboard cloning, also a crazy cheap lazy solution but I Think its gonna work.
its a Square 20cm x 20cm cardboard 2x pieces with 4 different fruits cloned, so they all have 10x10cm but on same sheet or what to say, wich are places in between the 2 pieces of cardboard then wrapped in plastic, I have currently tried transfer both the worst result of the 4 and the best to see if the myc i thought looked better will perform better, one was a not as stretchy the better one had developed more and aggressive streches
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
#23833351 - 11/14/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This has to be a troll. No one is this inept. Good job, it was hilarious.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23833354 - 11/14/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well bird seeds perform much worse is my experience, however I wont claim this is sterile, just sterile enoght for myc to win the battle and produce lots of fruit, are you claming outside is sterile? Are you claiming Dung is sterile?
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
#23833364 - 11/14/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Killaloting said: Well bird seeds perform much worse is my experience, however I wont claim this is sterile, just sterile enoght for myc to win the battle and produce lots of fruit
then where's the pictures of "lots of fruits"? all I see are bacterial popcorn
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
#23833367 - 11/14/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you can't tell the difference between manure and grain, or understand the difference between sterile expansion and a spawn run, or know why they work the way they do, you have no business writing a tek.
TEK = Technical Educational Knowledge
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
#23833377 - 11/14/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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While some of you have real humour, wich I appreciate I will tell you so aswell ,im Always up for a laught 
But kids trying to act like know-it-alls or giving useless comments to try earn some kind of respect as in I know better... please dont its just kind of embarrasing if you have nothing better to do?
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
#23833388 - 11/14/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Killaloting said: are you claming outside is sterile? Are you claiming Dung is sterile?
No, but you should be, and our "useless comments" are better than your best advice.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting] 1
#23833389 - 11/14/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Killaloting said: But kids trying to act like know-it-alls or giving useless comments to try earn some kind of respect as in I know better... please dont its just kind of embarrasing if you have nothing better to do?
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23833392 - 11/14/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: If you can't tell the difference between manure and grain, or understand the difference between sterile expansion and a spawn run, or know why they work the way they do, you have no business writing a tek.
TEK = Technical Educational Knowledge
Ok thats why you react, I mean this as an method only, perhaps hillbilly method whatever, im not saying this is educational hehe
But I do realize differences you pointed out just that people that my fruits have been consumed without any problems so I doubt there are that many harmful bacteria as many of you claim, i just said that it was just after shaking and its condense, try shake a jar and Place it in 32C and see how yours look?
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
#23833395 - 11/14/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would never put my jars in 32C. I know what would happen. But that backpedal still is besides the point. You claim to have grown mushrooms with that mess.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Kenetic] 1
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I never said you was one of them, if you feel like a kid perhaps you are one but you dont lack humour according to me.
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Killaloting said: are you claming outside is sterile? Are you claiming Dung is sterile?
No, but you should be, and our "useless comments" are better than your best advice.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
#23833401 - 11/14/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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TEK. Technical and educational knowledge
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23833404 - 11/14/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I would never put my jars in 32C. I know what would happen. But that backpedal still is besides the point. You claim to have grown mushrooms with that mess.

This is exactly what I claim yes, and since its so hard to Believe it it must be Amazing new technique
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
#23833410 - 11/14/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anyone with useful information as: Does this site log IP numbers on posts/threads?
Im considering uploading real pics ))
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
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Killaloting said:
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Pastywhyte said: I would never put my jars in 32C. I know what would happen. But that backpedal still is besides the point. You claim to have grown mushrooms with that mess.

This is exactly what I claim yes, and since its so hard to Believe it it must be Amazing new technique
Noobs have been coming in here saying that shit about popcorn with jars that looked like yours and no fruits to show for years now. You are just the latest person to try that troll. Show me the fruits. It better not be some sad pin on a moldy substrate.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: spacechildo]
#23833418 - 11/14/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo said:
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Killaloting said: Well bird seeds perform much worse is my experience, however I wont claim this is sterile, just sterile enoght for myc to win the battle and produce lots of fruit
then where's the pictures of "lots of fruits"? all I see are bacterial popcorn 
If people could start being helpful instead of speculating it would be alot easier and faster work for me aswell....
But its seems to be more importat to talk shit about and frame me as a lier then finding out how well it performed for me this way.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pastywhyte said: I would never put my jars in 32C. I know what would happen. But that backpedal still is besides the point. You claim to have grown mushrooms with that mess.

This is exactly what I claim yes, and since its so hard to Believe it it must be Amazing new technique
Noobs have been coming in here saying that shit about popcorn with jars that looked like yours and no fruits to show for years now. You are just the latest person to try that troll. Show me the fruits. It better not be some sad pin on a moldy substrate.

Batch 2 delivered a few dwarfs i Think almost 1-2 per cake they stopped growing and looked wierd, otherwise it turned out alot over expectations, i have bought boxes online performing worse. Otherwise I wouldnt bother posting, this can save someone alot of Money and the hustle of ordering online.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
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Killaloting said: Well bird seeds perform much worse is my experience, however I wont claim this is sterile, just sterile enoght for myc to win the battle and produce lots of fruit
then where's the pictures of "lots of fruits"? all I see are bacterial popcorn 
If people could start being helpful instead of speculating it would be alot easier and faster work for me aswell....
But its seems to be more importat to talk shit about and frame me as a lier then finding out how well it performed for me this way.
I'm trying to help you get to the point - show us the mushrooms.
Stating facts like those grains are bacterial isnt "talking shit". its being on topic. If I wanted to talk shit I'd sit here until tomorrow.. dont have time for that
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Pastywhyte]
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At this point dudes lost any and all credibility as far as I'm concerned. If he indeed had "real" pics they would have been posted already. Now he can post whatever pics he wants and it will hold as much water as a strainer with me
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have you ever tried spawning your popcorn to a bulk sub killaloting? pure grain cakes performs really crappy. pf-tek kicks its ass all day long. why not pf-tek then?
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: spacechildo]
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Killaloting said: Well bird seeds perform much worse is my experience, however I wont claim this is sterile, just sterile enoght for myc to win the battle and produce lots of fruit
then where's the pictures of "lots of fruits"? all I see are bacterial popcorn 
If people could start being helpful instead of speculating it would be alot easier and faster work for me aswell....
But its seems to be more importat to talk shit about and frame me as a lier then finding out how well it performed for me this way.
I'm trying to help you get to the point - show us the mushrooms.
Stating facts like those grains are bacterial isnt "talking shit". its being on topic. If I wanted to talk shit I'd sit here until tomorrow.. dont have time for that 
so why do you only talk shit and wont answer the question that can bring thoose Pictures??
omg, seriously, im considering quiting this board nobody can read between lines are none of you any intelligent creatures?
Sorry if thats an offence but its pretty obvious what i want to know and why already????!??!?
goodnight its 4am ,maybe when i Wake up someone with brain cells has answered my only question for now and stop asking me lots, give it time instead, there will be a video and there will be Pictures of fruits AFTER I FIGURES OUT IF THIS SITE LOG IP NUMBERS
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: spacechildo]
#23833445 - 11/14/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: have you ever tried spawning your popcorn to a bulk sub killaloting? pure grain cakes performs really crappy. pf-tek kicks its ass all day long. why not pf-tek then?
please read. after batch 1 i started to spawn each 600g of grains into 4x aluminium trays, its perhaps not bulk but its d casing i Think.
I have tried bulk but i fail since to Little spawn compared to pasturised bulk substrate.
PF tek wont as good without a pressure cooker, i get almost 50% contaminants when using this method.
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Oh man.. I can't believe you're all still at it.
Why is OP getting all this flak? You haven't tried this TEK to be so sure it doesn't work. For all of you who posted here, TC's and all, just fuckin the follow tek in the OP you noobs!! 
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Josex]
#23833467 - 11/14/16 07:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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shroomery is on the internet, internet keeps IP adresses, we're all fine so will you be, shroomery removes EXIF data from your pics so they cant expose where in sweden you live.
you cant read between the lines and understand of course none of us gets busted for posting pics? and that you're probably the last on the list if there ever was a list?
I'm not talking shit I'm simply calling bacterial grains bacterial
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
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Killaloting said: im not saying this is educational hehe
OP did you invent a new version of the wheel while you were at it?
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Josex]
#23833471 - 11/14/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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not just a napkin, but electrical tape for his inoculation hole. I can't believe I've waited so long to join this show. Thanks for the popcorn, PPP
OP, popcorn often looks colonized, but it's not, because it's such a big assed grain. So, often bacteria is rampant in popcorn spawn. It has a high endospore count to begin with. If you did all that to grow "two dwarves", at what point do you realize your benefits don't outweigh all this effort? You could have steamed the jars, and used poly-fill as a filter, and had better results.
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OP did you invent a new version of the wheel while you were at it?
He did but it's called a triangle. . .
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
#23833480 - 11/14/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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pf-tek was made for those that doesnt have a PC. 100% success each time. www.mushroomvideos.com video 1-4, follow those precise enough and you wont fail 
just try it, you got nothing to lose. I'd love for you to grow mushrooms successfully, but the method you wrote up here wont do that for anyone here, we got way way better TEKs thats both easier,faster and gives better results. try them, you'll like them! 
Now post those mushroom pics!!
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: spacechildo]
#23833531 - 11/14/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: pf-tek was made for those that doesnt have a PC. 100% success each time. www.mushroomvideos.com video 1-4, follow those precise enough and you wont fail 
just try it, you got nothing to lose. I'd love for you to grow mushrooms successfully, but the method you wrote up here wont do that for anyone here, we got way way better TEKs thats both easier,faster and gives better results. try them, you'll like them! 
Now post those mushroom pics!! 
That's some good advice
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23833581 - 11/14/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow OP, just wow.... I don't even have any snarky comments, rare for me. You said you may just quit the forums..... please don't quit posting lies and stolen photos. This is highly amusing to me
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Killaloting]
#23834193 - 11/14/16 11:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This OP is going in my signature as "The worst advice I've ever seen"
Congratulations...
Where's your (NON-STOLEN) pictures at?
Quit hiding behind your "IP address tracking" bullshit...
Show us the pictures of your successful grow with this ridiculous method or GTFO...
If not - let this post die with your credibility and
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: morty422]
#23834505 - 11/15/16 05:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Morty, your bastard sonishness is showing
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: ComebackKid]
#23835346 - 11/15/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Like father like son...
I just can't stand the terrible advice.
You might as well just take a shit in a monotub and case it with perlite. Don't forget the diluted hydrogen peroxide spray. It helps fight contams you know?
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: morty422]
#23835370 - 11/15/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Make sure you eat some corn before that, be sure to prepare it like this tek, drink some spore solution too, Kappa pride
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: filthyknees]
#23836175 - 11/15/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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TheShroomster01 said: I've learned so many things from reading this thread. The first post does not contain any of them.
while I think the first post is crazy, I was saying it does mention the idea of resterilizing/reheat-treating grains. If done properly this can be a sound idea and I imagine many reading it may not have heard or considered it before. People of course will simmer grains like he did, load jars and PC them, but this is not really the same thinking, which is to first sterilize grains (not a simple simmer), load into jars and then give them a mild heat treatment.
People were saying it would be good to have an experimental forum before. I would love to see this. People see posters ridiculed or laughed at for posting dodgy teks/ideas/methods and so may not post their own, they might have a wild idea which will not work but there could be 1 good theoretical idea amongst the crap, which may be useful if tweaked & refined a bit. The most recent example I can think of was a guy saying he did G2G through the hole in his lid, I think he was pulling the filter and pouring grains in, saying it was better than opening the whole lid. While that would not be advisable there is good thinking behind it. I have shallow wide PP containers that have smaller ports to drop wedges or a few grains into, without cracking the entire length of the lid.
I said I have been doing second heat treatments on grains -and agar. Many people have deformed PP agar trays, you can do your agar in the PC in a glass jar (if you really think it does need to be PCd) and then can pour into dishes and steam them, so the containers will not deform or discolour nearly as much as they can at 15psi. I also have large but thin PP containers which do not stand a chance in a PC, but stand up to steaming temps fine.
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filthyknees said: if you search like ten years + back pp5 is mentioned in no pour agar
Unfortunately many follow the now common advice and would never dream of reading posts from even 5 years back. Lots of stuff has been done before which many think is "new", there is great info in old posts which might not have been highlighted at the time, or advice which is not in the current/more recent incarnation(s) of the "tek".
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: blackout]
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Hey blackout,
I've seen some of your experiments and you have my support. The main difference to me, in this thread and your experiments is that you have proven that you are worth listening to, and the op has not.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: blackout]
#23836341 - 11/15/16 05:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not against a well run and controlled experiment. But most people don't bother with things like controls. Hell they don't even try to limit the variables at all.
But that's not what happened here. We have an OP who posted a method with no results and then got butthurt when people questioned his lack of results.
I was a bit tough on him but I had my reasons.
I agree an experiment forum might be a good idea though i suspect it will end up littered with experiments consisting of trich ridden substrates left to green up.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23836370 - 11/15/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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An experiment forum would be pretty cool. At least make for good reading if the right rules are setup.
Brainstorming
1) All new post must be in the following format.
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Title: * a brief, concise, yet descriptive title
Statement of the Problem:
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Hypothesis:
* Write a possible solution for the problem. * Make sure this possible solution is a complete sentence. * Make sure the statement is testable, an if-then statement is recommended to illustrate what criteria will support your hypothesis (and what data would no support the hypothesis).
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* Make a list of ALL items used in the lab. Alternatively, materials can be included as part of the procedure.
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* Accept or reject your hypothesis. * EXPLAIN why you accepted or rejected your hypothesis using data from the lab. * Include a summary of the data - averages, highest, lowest..etc to help the reader understand your results. Try not to copy your data here, you should summarize and reference KEY information. * List one thing you learned and describe how it applies to a real-life situation. *Discuss possible errors that could have occurred in the collection of the data (experimental errors)
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pastywhyte said:I agree an experiment forum might be a good idea though i suspect it will end up littered with experiments consisting of trich ridden substrates left to green up.
yeah, I suppose I am thinking more of experimental theory, or at least throwing out random ideas, no matter how crazy they sound, others can pick out bits that might work -most might not even result in attempted grows. It should be thoroughly critiqued before anybody attempts to grow, rip apart the idea before it happens, hindsight is crap, people should have foresight. If it does end up trich ridden there should be no reason for laughing or mocking going on, it should be people saying "well we all discussed the theory, and thought this was definitely worth trying, we made every effort to hone the idea and add extra steps but it still did not work, even though most though there was a reasonable chance it would". If it's ripped apart as utter nonsense then nobody should bother trying the grow, if they do and fail as expected they can expect a few laughs.
We do this in my job, a sentence might start with "now this sounds fucking mental, and I know it won't work, but I am throwing the idea out there as food for thought", people might burst out laughing at first but often someone will come up with an idea from it.
Many here might be doing experiments in secret, and if it fails they say nothing, they figure it is a stupid idea when a simple tweak could have fixed it. People might prefer to work on their own so they can claim the entire method as their own.
Many experiment and fail, if they had listed what they were planning to do first they could have gotten advice. e.g. I have challenged people to show me any failed fractional sterilization attempt where I could not at least point out an obvious flaw, as I have never seen one done in a reasonable manner which the original developer intended it to be done.
EDIT, only see the post above now, which is pretty much what I am talking about.
Edited by blackout (11/15/16 06:04 PM)
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: blackout]
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I get what you are saying. Even failed experiments are very valuable, even if only to use as very strong evidence why certain ideas don't have a high chance of success.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: X2QE]
#23836443 - 11/15/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You could also have a public vote in the thread, rating 1-5 how likely you think it is to fail or succeed. Not this it NOT a vote on how good or worthwhile you think the idea is, there could be a poll for that too if you wanted.
Many ideas are dismissed as being impractical, the old "just get a fucking PC", "just make a SAB" line thrown out. What suits one person might be utterly impractical for another. Like how many think steaming jars for 8 hours is impractical, while it suits me very well to hold jars at 97C for several days, which I realise is not practical for most. So someone might come along and say my idea is ridiculous and stupid, but still publicly rate it as "5- highly likely to succeed" but in another poll they could vote "1 -useless idea for most people"
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: blackout]
#23836503 - 11/15/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I thought experimental techniques would be considered Advanced Mycology? I dunno. Maybe I'm just being dumb. There is an experimental techniques page on the main page. https://www.shroomery.org/11394/Experimental-Techniques
But no one without access can add to it, I guess.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: dankington] 2
#23836518 - 11/15/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow... this thread turned into productive talk? I guess miracles are possible.
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Re: No PC? No worries! "Lazy tek" [Re: Inocuole]
#23836521 - 11/15/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I knew you were out there somewhere....
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#23836527 - 11/15/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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How is this not closed yet? Just because something worked once doesn't mean it will continue to work. Take the advice given and move on. We all know we can get lucky and grow some sad shrooms like I've done. Some of these people here are really serious about the science and have spent years on top of years making this site what it is. Its kind of a slap in the face when you say dirty is fine. Take the advice. So is my rambling but take the advice sit back and watch and eventually you will probably be accepted. But remember some of these people that I haven't had the pleasure of commenting on one of my posts may have spent every free min out of work to make this easy for you.
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#23836610 - 11/15/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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