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Tight Lunchbox
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23827776 - 11/13/16 01:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Killaloting
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: ComebackKid]
#23827822 - 11/13/16 02:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not Everyone here Speaks english as main language.
If ur experinced grower why read the most simple/lazy and cheapest ways ive sen here? And even bother postning??
My guess is ur jealous i get same results in alot less time 
I clearly state its maybe not sterile but after 1,5h Hard boil popcorn Will not be contaminated after sealed properly.
I am updating it With pictures, and it wont work With Rice substrates as they most Likely produce Mold, though semi successive using regular lawn grass seeds, it seem popcorn dont contam Very easily after being boiled for 90min Believe or not i dont Care
A brf cake u cant breath on before it turns green is my experinced.
This is in fact not a troll been experimenting for a few years had lots of fails using the brf tek, Mold before even colonisation begin or after first Harvest without a vermiculit "barrier" it was close to 100% fails, so i personaly like this better cause of simplicity. I Have Made total of 75jars using This method With 0 contam, as said before even leaving a jar without injecting culture did not show contams.. If it wasnt close to sterile i guess contams would appear being left without any competetive colonisation?
This is basicly for thoose Who cant start a 24h+ project, this was done While wifey was asleep. In about 3 h all and all (creating jars, lids, cooking,dry, cooling, injecting)
The alternative steps: microwave and oven i really thing is close to sterile, just as sterile as in ur pc in fact, but take my Word for it I never gotten Mold on any of my popcorn attempts.
I dont think you realize That even if Other methods are better, it might just not be an alternative for some due to different circumstances, IF u live alone and can spend 24h on soaking and another few hours With a pc then do so but this works to.
I was actually looking to order a pc before using This simple method.
All work was done in the Kitchen, i think the key is to not exposé medium heated/room temp wet corns to air, seems to work if u make the transfer While they are still hot even if u skip the alternative steps.
I actually expected contams this is why im so happy. Total money spent was 12$ each 25 jars. The filter/injektion ports was normal plasters if thats the Word for the thing u put on wounds 
Amazingly simple, good enoght success ratio, haters can continue to hate (or try get themselves a woman, or at least try get layed)
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Killaloting
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Surprised nobody has written a freeze your grains to sterilize tek yet 
Worth looking into. I Will try since u brought it up
I am also gonna try open flame sterilisation of The top layer only since thats usally where my brf contams starts.
U guys With 1000+ post can stop try to get attension in my thread please, just embarrasing u can create new threads of ur own if ur gonna compete about having the most post counts.
Sincerely/K
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morty422
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting] 1
#23827836 - 11/13/16 02:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Killaloting said:
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Surprised nobody has written a freeze your grains to sterilize tek yet 
Worth looking into. I Will try since u brought it up
I am also gonna try open flame sterilisation of The top layer only since thats usally where my brf contams starts.
U guys With 1000+ post can stop try to get attension in my thread please, just embarrasing u can create new threads of ur own if ur gonna compete about having the most post counts.
Sincerely/K
Bullshit is not my first language.... But I can definitely tell when one is speaking it.
Please go away.
Your advice is exactly what the mods and the veteran users of mush cult strive this forum to NOT be...
Take your ridiculous ill-proven method elsewhere...

The "1000" count users here don't want you to spread your herpes-ridden cancer to other members.
Hell, if someone with 1 post came into this thread and said your post was bullshit I would side with them......cause...uh... It's bullshit.
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Killaloting
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: morty422]
#23827871 - 11/13/16 03:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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As stated like 100 times this isnt for veteran users, so you all veteran users can take ur veteran badge and go read other methods as you have more and better equippment and willingly and able to spend more time in this "hobby".
TBH I think your guys attitudes agains newer people is what mods are NOT looking for but let them answer that themselves.
Here is my very latest project this is used coffea with filter and everything microwaved only, the lids isnt even a tight seal and no contams yet and growt is starting now already in day 2.


On picture 2 there is a few normal rice in middle of it, the plan is just to see if they start to mold when placed there because i know for a fact that if I placed them ontop they would be.
To clearify, this post is not intended for any "veteran" user, there is way more failproof methods as said in the thread already and if your veteran your probably already have ur isolate and petridishes and whatever, this is a:
"SIMPLE CHEAP "BUSH-STYLE-DIY-METHOD" THAT WILL PRODUCE MUSHROOMS, IN SOME CASES YOU MIGHT GET CONTAMINATED AND THERE ARE FAR MOR ADVANCED METHODS WITH BETTER SUCCES-RATIO BUT THIS HAS BEEN FAILPROOF FOR ME!"
Now stop the of topics and spam, serious questions input will be answered. others will be reported.
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Killaloting
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: morty422]
#23827875 - 11/13/16 03:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If your as much veteran as you claim then you would know that this will work under right circumstances while its far from failproof, remember that what your doing is in fact illegal slandering, lets not sink to that level mr. know it all veteran style.
"Prime Minister Berlusconi is the first to say that freedom of the press is very important, but the freedom to insult, to deceive, to defame and to slander is something altogether different."
"We can fight for our ideas, but we do not have the right to slander anyone"
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Surprised nobody has written a freeze your grains to sterilize tek yet 
Worth looking into. I Will try since u brought it up
I am also gonna try open flame sterilisation of The top layer only since thats usally where my brf contams starts.
U guys With 1000+ post can stop try to get attension in my thread please, just embarrasing u can create new threads of ur own if ur gonna compete about having the most post counts.
Sincerely/K
Bullshit is not my first language.... But I can definitely tell when one is speaking it.
Please go away.
Your advice is exactly what the mods and the veteran users of mush cult strive this forum to NOT be...
Take your ridiculous ill-proven method elsewhere...

The "1000" count users here don't want you to spread your herpes-ridden cancer to other members.
Hell, if someone with 1 post came into this thread and said your post was bullshit I would side with them......cause...uh... It's bullshit.

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Killaloting
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Kenetic]
#23827884 - 11/13/16 03:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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kenetic said: A real tek has pics at least. If you've actually done this yourself I'd assume you took pics?
Just in case the modern world hasn't noticed, pressure cookers are readily available for low $
Yes there will be pictures 
Yes it can be availible cheap, here they are around 70$ but i started my project with less then 5$, im basicly experimenting for an okay non-advanced method, I wont claim its the best lol.
But there are other factors that maybe unable you to go buy one or even have one at home etc etc.
The point is to make a method that requires nothing, wich will be the ultimate goal to spend 0$ or at least as close to 0 as possible. Of course that will probably and most likely not turn out as well as if you spend 10s or even 100ds of dollars.
sincerely
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Killaloting
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WeavieWonder said: You should rename it the "Not gonna fucking work worth a shit" Tek. I wonder what your definition of a successful experience is?

I'm usually pretty tolerant of noobs, but noobs posting "teks"??
Who's next?
Tbh i dont know the meaning of "tek" i thought its just a method used, i typed "tek" for that reason.
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Killaloting
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: spacechildo]
#23827893 - 11/13/16 04:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo said:

this made my day but I got pepsi all over my laptop now... "alternative to PC is simply dont sterilize your grains at all" 
the right answer would be steam for 8hrs...if anyone wondered. always sterilize your grains.
Didnt you learn to read in school? o.0
"Im not saying this is a way to sterilize grain but it will be sterile enoght for myc growt ,i recommend adding the extra steps to get a lower fail ratio."
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Killaloting
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Josex]
#23827895 - 11/13/16 04:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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PinPornProducer said: Da fuq???
Yeah I know right? It's fucking awesome! This is the end-all-be-all of teks if you wanna grow some serious mashrooms. Where has this guy been all this time? Damn and to think I just bought a pc for nothing 
Okay that was pretty funny
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2shoes
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23827897 - 11/13/16 04:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sorry OP. But this tek is horrible information and should be kept to yourself. This so called tek is way more complicated than just hydrating grains and a PC run of 90 min. My Pc holds 7 quarts and I doubt you can keep up with that rate.
You say you've done 100 jars? Zero percent contamination fate is straight bullshit. Let's see more than 2 (and learn how to add pictures so they aren't huge. The search function can help you with that.
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Killaloting
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: 2shoes]
#23827905 - 11/13/16 04:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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2shoes said: Sorry OP. But this tek is horrible information and should be kept to yourself. This so called tek is way more complicated than just hydrating grains and a PC run of 90 min. My Pc holds 7 quarts and I doubt you can keep up with that rate.
You say you've done 100 jars? Zero percent contamination fate is straight bullshit. Let's see more than 2 (and learn how to add pictures so they aren't huge. The search function can help you with that.
Seems like you just like the other vets cant read ,this is for people without a PC and without the possiblity or willingly to ever get a hold of one but still want to try produce mushrooms.
Nowadays I do as in this video but using colonised grain ,shaked every jar well and turned every jar into 4x small aluminium cases wich i also know isnt recommended but they were free of charge and you take what you have and yes they did burn thru the foil but mushrooms kept coming up.
But of course i dont cook spawned substrate i mean i take colonised shaked up corns in the bottom and then a layer of vermiculite it did work well with perlit aswell.
I dont use chambers I use the plastic bags filter kind, easy to store and dirt cheap, made 2 of theese myself.
The first batch i spawned from the jars i think its called introverting? this produced alot less of fruit 
Edited by Killaloting (11/13/16 04:48 AM)
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2shoes
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23827913 - 11/13/16 04:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pf tek is already here for those without a Pc. Let's see your fruits as well as your trays and fruiting chamber.
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Killaloting
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: 2shoes]
#23827925 - 11/13/16 04:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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2shoes said: Pf tek is already here for those without a Pc. Let's see your fruits as well as your trays and fruiting chamber.
Yes it is, but that requires alot of effort compared to how I do it, I have had great succes with PF tek though its just not as quick/stealthy as it can be if it has to be...
I will be updating with more pictures next week as I will take 1 picture every day or two from now on to prove that this does work since people dont seem to think it does, I have better stuff to do then trolling on message bóards, been member since 2014... I dont get it why people tend to get offended when i succed without a PC???
Its kinda childish, let worse equipped people working on a time limit under stealth conditions have their way and people with no limits use their way but if that way isnt a choice then why not?
Im not sure if I can post identifyable mushrooms if you know what I mean but I will post progress of myc growth from beginning to 100% colonisation in all my projects from now on I always do batches of 25 600gram jars i dont know what that is in pint.
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Mad Season
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23827962 - 11/13/16 05:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That is nothing because grams are weight and pint is volume..
The problem is that grains need 8 hours of boiling. No one has a problem with not needing a PC, but 90 minutes of boiling on grains is shit. If you want to boil for 90 minutes, hit up the pf tek.
Edited by Mad Season (11/13/16 05:27 AM)
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LocN9ne
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting] 3
#23827963 - 11/13/16 05:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Killaloting
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Mad Season]
#23827970 - 11/13/16 05:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: That is nothing because grams are weight and pint is volume..
The problem is that grains need 8 hours of boiling. No one has a problem with not needing a PC, but 90 minutes of boiling on grains is shit.
Nothing true at all with what you said.
Im not saying 8 hours is worse but 1h 30min is perfect in my opinion and you will have enoght proof soon 
Actually not even a single sign of contam on my current batch, 50-90% colonised already
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Mad Season
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23827973 - 11/13/16 05:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I can 100% guarantee your definition of a clean jar is much different from mine.
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Killaloting
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Mad Season]
#23827976 - 11/13/16 05:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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it looks alot better then ur petri dishes thats for sure. pure thick white fluffy all over, no wet spots nothing.
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Kenetic
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Re: No PC? No worries! Lazy tek [Re: Killaloting]
#23827980 - 11/13/16 05:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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cmon dude.....
Are you really gonna drag this out? I'd suggest letting this thread disapear before everyone starts waking up lol
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