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Is this lighting sufficient
    #23826589 - 11/12/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

So I have spawned my substrate today in my mono tubs. I have all of them in a closet. I was attempting to have 2 - 4 foot 2 bulb fluorescent on each side up and down on the wall.  unfortunately, after I put the tubs in there, I do not have enough room. basically, there is only like 2 inches left over on each side and I'm scared that the bulbs are going to make the substrate and the mono tubs too hot. unless I am wrong and someone can help me out with that, would it be a good idea just to mount both of them to the ceiling and go that route? There will be light in the entire closet then, but just not shining directly into the mono tubs. I have them stacked 4 high and I just want to make sure they are getting sufficient light


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: Cojack69]
    #23826621 - 11/12/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I am actually trying to different setup than I've ever seen here before. Even though it's my first time grow, I feel this is the best way to get light into my tub since they're stacked High. I actually cut my holes on the sides and put Saran Wrap and duct tape on them, instead of the lids like everyone else does. I am using black tubs, not clear tubs. I honestly wish I would have got clear tubs and maybe I might do that eventually


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: Cojack69]
    #23826727 - 11/12/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Provided your tubs were clear, that would be more than enough light.  FYI, light cannot penetrate through black plastic, so stacking them on top of each other is not going to work.  Saran wrap and duct tape?  Alrighty then:confused:.  I would suggest not cramming all that shit into a closet that isn't big enough.  Clear tubs....WITH lids next time.  The lids are included in the price with the tub usually.


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #23826765 - 11/12/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

id agree with weavie that the lighting is sufficient.:thumbup:

Since you have four monotubs stacked on top of each other the sides are your best bet. I would suggest only placing one flor. on one side of the monotubs instead of both sides, this should allow you to move them to one side and have a nice gap for your light.:crazy2:

PS: flor. lights put off minimal heat compared to others so heat hurting grow will not happen, rather it may warm them a bit which should help evaporation i suppose:eek:


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #23826791 - 11/12/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Feel free to tell us the rating of the lamps you're using, that's the most important part.  Btw, fluorescent lamps are really inefficient nowadays, compared to LED's.  I understand fluorescents are what you have so the following info may help you understand what to look for.

Here is what I think you need in your situation:  5,000+ K, 800 Lumens, and 12-48 Watts.

At the very least stick to the kelvin rating, and depending on how far away your lights are you choose the other two variables.  If you get a high kelvin rating, low lumen and wattage rating you can just set the fixtures right on top of your monotubs. 

Kelvin is the color spectrum.  Low is red and high is blue, and you want blue.  Daylight spectrum is 5,000 or higher.

Watts are essentially the amount of power you are using to achieve the brightness (lumens) and more watts = more heat. 

Lumens are the light intensity (brightness).  The higher the lumens, the higher the wattage (heat).


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #23826806 - 11/12/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Cojack69 said:
I am using black tubs, not clear tubs.




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Since you have four monotubs stacked on top of each other the sides are your best bet.






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FYI, light cannot penetrate through black plastic.




SporeDaddy, I'm just assuming you didn't read the OP closely enough?  Please let that be it.


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #23827461 - 11/12/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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SporeDaddy, I'm just assuming you didn't read the OP closely enough?  Please let that be it.





yes i did not read the second post OP made about having black tubs, either way black tubs will not let enough light in:stoned:


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: SporeDaddy]
    #23827475 - 11/12/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Understood. It happens. :bigblunt:


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #23827514 - 11/12/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't notice the post about the black tubs.  In that case, you probably shouldn't stack them so they can all be exposed to light.  Fuck if I know, I've never had that problem.  All my tubs have been clear


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: Kenetic]
    #23828478 - 11/13/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

  So I will try to explain a little bit better. I do have black tubs, yes. Instead of me having the lids cut out for light, I just did it on one of the sides of each monotub. If you guys would like pictures, I will take some. I've never seen anyone do it like this, but I figured with where I am placing them in my closet, this would be the best way for some kind of efficient lighting getting inside.
    I have two of the 4 foot 2 bulb fluorescent lights. They are 6500 daylight Deluxe, which is what everyone was saying works the best.  I was thinking that if I put these at the top of my closet, that with the little bit of closet space, that this will light up the entire closet with sufficient lighting for everything to still get light inside the tubs. Of course, they will not be directly shining into the tub like I would want, but I'm hoping this would be sufficient.
    My only other option is like I said, to have them going up and down on the side walls.  But then, the actual lights are literally like 2 inches from the sides of the tubs.  Scared of the tubs  getting too HoTT like this. 
    As said though,  if everyone would like a better understanding, I could definitely take some pictures of the mono tubs that I am doing and the closet like I had it set up.


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: Cojack69]
    #23828490 - 11/13/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have already started this go around and I need to work with what I have already. I guess I will go buy clear tubs if this does not work out like I want it to this run. I actually miscalculated a little bit of my closet space and thought I would have more room on the sides for sufficient lighting and not to be too close to the tubs.


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: Cojack69]
    #23828520 - 11/13/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: Cojack69]
    #23828526 - 11/13/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have more tubs going in.  That's what I have prepped for now.


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: Cojack69]
    #23829372 - 11/13/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I have more tubs going in.  That's what I have prepped for now.




Actually, that may be efficient enough lighting as long as the flor. light is shining though all four tubs. Be sure to make the seal secure on the clear wrap used to close the hole on the tubs to keep it air tight.

Also I would make two more holes on the long side and one more on the short sides to increase air flow for fruiting, just seal them with duct tape when colonizing and remove when ready to fruit.

Other than that your set up should work with heat from flor. not being a problem, just in case put fan in area of closet.


PS. Sterile, sterile, sterile. Use alcohol to wipe everything down and let dry and your tubs will be contaminate free. Just saying :rockon:  :leaving:


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: SporeDaddy]
    #23829399 - 11/13/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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PS. Sterile, sterile, sterile. Use alcohol to wipe everything down and let dry and your tubs will be contaminate free. Just saying :rockon:  :leaving:





I don't think it works that way....


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: Kenetic]
    #23829428 - 11/13/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

isopropyl alcohol


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: SporeDaddy]
    #23829448 - 11/13/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not giving you a hard time, just taking your statement literally. 

You can't sterilize anything with alcohol and even if you could I don't see how wiping down a tub would prevent the sub from contaminating.  The way you worded that made it sound misleading to someone that doesn't know the difference. 

Definitely doesn't hurt to wipe down your tubs though.


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: Kenetic]
    #23829486 - 11/13/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

LMAO. Yep sorry on that one, did notice it seemed like "hey wipe your grow tub down with such vodka/whiskey mix, works all the time"  :dumbhunter:


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: SporeDaddy]
    #23829800 - 11/13/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I washed every single one of my tubs before putting the substrate in them with soap and water and alcohol. 
    I have two holes on the long side at the bottom of both sides. Right at the substrate.  You probably my can't tell as much because I was using black gorilla tape on a a black tub and then ran out so I started using the silver duct tape instead.  I also have the two hole on the short side at the top also. Just like I see most people doing.
    Yes, my tubs are sealed well where I installed the suran wrap also.  I am just hoping so bad that having the lights around 2 inches from my tubs will not be a problem with the heat.  I was hoping that y'all were gonna tell me that they would on on the ceiling since it will be really bright in the little closet to get light to the tubs on the sides.  I was hoping that it did not have to directly shine in there, as long as there was light in the whole entire area.  Lol.


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Re: Is this lighting sufficient [Re: Cojack69]
    #23832335 - 11/14/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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    Yes, my tubs are sealed well where I installed the suran wrap also.  I am just hoping so bad that having the lights around 2 inches from my tubs will not be a problem with the heat.  I was hoping that y'all were gonna tell me that they would on on the ceiling since it will be really bright in the little closet to get light to the tubs on the sides.  I was hoping that it did not have to directly shine in there, as long as there was light in the whole entire area.  Lol.




Yeah looks like you are going to have to place the lights against the walls shining inwards to shine through the clear wall you made. If you place the back of your hand in front of the light about two inches from it you can tell how hot the light gets while on. With small amount of heat 2"-4" inches is fine.

PS. The lights could go above the tubs if only they were all clear.


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