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bobcat7
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amanita mascaria question!
#23826334 - 11/12/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just found some amanita mascaria. Are they really psychoactive? If so, how do you prepare them...?
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aaron6484
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Re: amanita mascaria question! [Re: bobcat7]
#23826405 - 11/12/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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They contain muscimol, a deliriant. The mushrooms most people are familiar with contain psilocybin.
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bobcat7
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Re: amanita mascaria question! [Re: aaron6484]
#23826436 - 11/12/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes I understand that but what does that mean.... is it a different high ?will it hurt you ..?are they worth picking...???
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pyrolight
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Re: amanita mascaria question! [Re: aaron6484]
#23826442 - 11/12/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The contain muscimol (not a deliriant) and ibotenic acid. Muscimol is a GABA receptor agonist, making it distinct pharmacologically from the deliriants (anticholinergics), and psychedelics (serotonergics). While in effect it is often compared to dissociatives and deliriants, it is completely distinct. The only other drugs that produce somewhat similar effects through GABA modulation are the z-drugs like zolpidem (ambien). Muscimol causes visual disturbances, coordination impairment, and mild dissociation. Ibotenic acid is a prodrug to muscimol. This means it is processed by enzymes in the body and becomes muscimol. It is, however, a potent neurotoxin and something that should never be consumed. It can be broken down into muscimol through heating. Do some research as to safely converting ibotenic acid- I have never done this so perhaps someone who has can help. I know I'm not answering all of your questions, but if you are considering taking psychoactive amanitae, it's good that I tell you a little about them.
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: amanita mascaria question! [Re: bobcat7]
#23826444 - 11/12/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psilocybes makes you hallucinate (which is fun in my opinion) and Amanitas make you feel drunk and sick, are also slightly toxic.
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: amanita mascaria question! [Re: pyrolight]
#23826454 - 11/12/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
pyrolight said: The contain muscimol (not a deliriant) and ibotenic acid. Muscimol is a GABA receptor agonist, making it distinct pharmacologically from the deliriants (anticholinergics), and psychedelics (serotonergics). While in effect it is often compared to dissociatives and deliriants, it is completely distinct. The only other drugs that produce somewhat similar effects through GABA modulation are the z-drugs like zolpidem (ambien). Muscimol causes visual disturbances, coordination impairment, and mild dissociation. Ibotenic acid is a prodrug to muscimol. This means it is processed by enzymes in the body and becomes muscimol. It is, however, a potent neurotoxin and something that should never be consumed. It can be broken down into muscimol through heating. Do some research as to safely converting ibotenic acid- I have never done this so perhaps someone who has can help. I know I'm not answering all of your questions, but if you are considering taking psychoactive amanitae, it's good that I tell you a little about them.
I've heard heating them in an oven at low heat for awhile can break down the muscimol. Alan eats them I guess, I've never really wanted to.
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aaron6484
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It isn't a deliriant? Not arguing just curious because I thought I had read that it was but I must be misunderstanding
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conformity
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Re: amanita mascaria question! [Re: aaron6484]
#23833724 - 11/14/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Found pounds of them and have never had the courage. The few items did harvest i gave to a friend and they reported no effects. Thanks
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