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Kratom --- "Bad Batch?...Or Just Not For Me.." --- And Other Herbs
    #23825719 - 11/12/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I know this is long, so I've emboldened the parts most pertinent to the topic

I finally decided to try Kratom after reading so much about it on the forum.  My main question concerns this particular plant, but this post also encompasses some context to my situation, as well as brief opinions on some other herbs I'm using.  So if you don't like reading, just skip to the Kratom bullet point near the bottom.

I have been going through a hell of a time quitting weed.  The first week was the hardest as I most definitely suffered a physical withdrawal that consisted of nausea and profuse sweating while trying to sleep.  That has mostly passed and I'm over the worst in regard to the physical withdrawal symptoms.  Psychologically, it's another story.  I'm still very much mentally addicted.  It's coming up on a month now since I last smoked and I still think about it every evening around the time I used to light up and relax.  I miss it like I might miss a buddy who recently died.  Very sad.  :sad:  I know it's a process though and will take more time than a measly month.

So in an attempt find something to help regulate my mood during this process, I've been trying different herbs that are supposed to be good for mental stability and producing uplifting feelings.  I should mention, I'm not trying to fill the void that weed left.  Just trying to take the edge off and get a break from the constant dysphoria and boredom I'm feeling currently.

Anyway,  these are what I've been using:

-Ashwagandha - - This herb I have had some success with if used in the morning.  To me, registers as clean, mellow stimulation.

-Kava - - I haven't made a batch strong enough to actually form an opinion on this, although from the little I've experienced, I have nothing bad to say.

-Amanita Musc. - - I haven't used this to the point of intoxication, but in the 1-3 gram range it produces a dreamy, wide-eyed boost of energy.  I've dosed prior to workouts or bike rides with some success.

-Chamomile - - Mostly for the taste, but also produces slight relaxation if quality flowers are used.  Commercially processed, bagged chamomile is forgettable and I don't bother with it.

-Kratom - - Now this is the one I've had the highest hopes for.  From what I've read and experienced to a certain extent, this plant produces effects that are beyond what anyone could call placebo.  The fact that people use it recreationally illustrates that. 
I acquired some White Borneo powder and used it over the course of a week to mixed results. 

The first day, I tried 2g and didn't feel anything.  I've never used any sort of opiate before, so I wasn't sure what exactly I was supposed to feel, but I can say this day's dose didn't convince me of anything other than Kratom's disgustingly bitter taste.

Tried 3g the following day and took a nap.  When I woke up, I was in a state that felt like in between awake and asleep.  It was very pleasant actually and I was able to lay there another hour comfortably.  Later in the evening I had a very dull headache that I just chalked up to sleeping too much that day.  But my nap was so pleasant, I thought I might be onto something with this Kratom.

3g again the next day.  This was the best dose.  I repeated exactly what I did the previous day and had exactly the results I was hoping for.  My nap was even sweeter due to the fact that I had an idea of what it was supposed to feel like now.  Later in the evening, the dull headache returned though.  This time there was a dull nausea too.

Waited a couple days and did 4g.  This was too much.  When the effects came on, it went straight to that dull headache and this time pretty severe nausea for hours.  It felt so gross.

The next few times I dosed, it was under 3g, but the results were disappointing.  Nothing but that dull headache and syrupy nausea, albeit to a lesser degree than the 4g dose, but still that's all I got.  I stopped using it.

But because of that one very nice 3g dose I had, I still feel like there is some potential there.  I know there are many different strains and many different vendors whose product is of varying quality, so I'm keen on the idea of ordering a different batch and testing the results. 

I'm wondering if it's possible that I can blame my mostly bad results so far on having a less then quality batch of Kratom? Or maybe a strain I don't agree with?  Or is it more likely that this particular plant is just not for me...

I'd appreciate all opinions and suggestions.  And if you have/are a vendor that has good quality Kratom in stock, shoot me a PM. 

Thanks guys


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Re: Kratom --- "Bad Batch?...Or Just Not For Me.." --- And Other Herbs [Re: unfortunategent]
    #23826026 - 11/12/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Probably the strain.  Could be a poor quality vendor.

Headache could be dehydration.

For best current strains and vendors join and see independent reviews here: http://www.kcforums.com/

A great community.


Also I might recommend you try salvia.  It's nothing like weed, definitely not boring... and it can reset tolerance of kratom ( which you should not use on consecutive days IMO).

Since you're working with GABA / benzos like amanita and kava, maybe pick up some magnolia bark.  This potentiates GABA herbs, as does nicotine.


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


Edited by flickedbic (11/12/16 02:37 PM)


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Re: Kratom --- "Bad Batch?...Or Just Not For Me.." --- And Other Herbs [Re: flickedbic]
    #23826478 - 11/12/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the reply flickedbic.  I shall definitely check out that website. 

I highly doubt I was dehydrated as I am, especially now, very health-minded and know that plenty of water intake is essential to good health.  It's a possibility though, so next time I will keep this at the forefront of my mind when dosing.

Good call on not using Kratom on consecutive days.  I would have to agree with you even with my limited experience with it.  I just wanted to see what it was all about, if I liked it, and then I would go about figuring out a dosing schedule.

Touching on your suggestion to try salvia, I will say I'm very curious, but also cautious and a bit scared.  I can honestly say I will never try the extracts.  Plain leaf on the other hand, maybe.  Any help with finding a vendor for plain leaf?

I haven't heard of magnolia bark, but will look into it.

Thanks man


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Re: Kratom --- "Bad Batch?...Or Just Not For Me.." --- And Other Herbs [Re: unfortunategent]
    #23826734 - 11/12/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yea, stick with plain leaf, at least at first.

I think there is a popular "Monster" out there on the interwebs.  There is also an "Arena" out there that may be of interest. 
Seek and ye shall find.


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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Re: Kratom --- "Bad Batch?...Or Just Not For Me.." --- And Other Herbs [Re: flickedbic]
    #23829293 - 11/13/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

well I checked up on Salvia.  Turns out it's illegal in NC, so no one will ship to me.  Bummer.


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