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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: Get Shwifty]
    #23849705 - 11/19/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I do lemon tek alot of the time.

Also its not about the stomach problems its about swallowing those nasty shrooms.

Also psilocin is what causes the nausea. It is the acctual active compound. Psilocybin must be converted to psilocin to be active. It activated the serotonin receptors in the digestive tract.

Its just when you convert it all to psilocin beforehand you get over the comeup more quickly because it does not need to be metabolized further to make you trip. When you eat shrooms with a high psilocybin content, the psilocybin is hydrolyzed gradually so the comeup takes longer.




The "come up" taking longer, is that good? Should I go back to eating fresh?



No it makes the sick/tense/anxious period longer. Thats the only reason i can think of for you saying lemon tek will not make you sick. Psilocin does not need to be metabolized so it kicks in faster and the trip is more "condensed" and therefore shorter and more intense. including the comeup.


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23849732 - 11/19/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Everyone is a bad ass until they have a full blown panic attack after convincing themselves for a split second they've gone insane* on an unknown excessive dose of LSD.

Same applies to mushrooms.

Be safe, folks.

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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: Pandemoon]
    #23868028 - 11/26/16 07:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Milli--  is 1000th.

.25 of a gram is 2.5mg.




First part yes, second part no.

1mg is 1/1000 of a gram
.25 of a gram is 250mg

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sorry yes.  oops  I meant .025

I wonder how many people died because of that mistake


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23868034 - 11/26/16 07:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Get Shwifty said:
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BANANA.MAN said:
I do lemon tek alot of the time.

Also its not about the stomach problems its about swallowing those nasty shrooms.

Also psilocin is what causes the nausea. It is the acctual active compound. Psilocybin must be converted to psilocin to be active. It activated the serotonin receptors in the digestive tract.

Its just when you convert it all to psilocin beforehand you get over the comeup more quickly because it does not need to be metabolized further to make you trip. When you eat shrooms with a high psilocybin content, the psilocybin is hydrolyzed gradually so the comeup takes longer.




The "come up" taking longer, is that good? Should I go back to eating fresh?



No it makes the sick/tense/anxious period longer. Thats the only reason i can think of for you saying lemon tek will not make you sick. Psilocin does not need to be metabolized so it kicks in faster and the trip is more "condensed" and therefore shorter and more intense. including the comeup.




I still have not read a trip report from someone who tried plugging mushrooms.  Maybe because they never remember the trip?  i dunno.


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: travelleler]
    #23868185 - 11/26/16 08:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I always thought the lemon helped with nausea. I rarely get nauseous but time before last I took 10g lemon tek and I was nauseous. I do not fast before tripping as I have found no difference in the trip quality. I like to eat a little while before so that I know my stomach has something in it.


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: DrEarnhardt]
    #23868217 - 11/26/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I always thought the lemon helped with nausea. I rarely get nauseous but time before last I took 10g lemon tek and I was nauseous. I do not fast before tripping as I have found no difference in the trip quality. I like to eat a little while before so that I know my stomach has something in it.



I notice a huge difference from fasting i would recomend you give it another shot personally. Once i didnt eat for 3 hours before a trip and my friend ate and mine kicked in aignificantly faster.

Ive been nauseous from lemon tek, the nauseous period is shorter though. Weather or not i lemon tek, i might feel sick i might not. It seems totally random. There must be factors effecting it though.


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23868254 - 11/26/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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DrEarnhardt said:
I always thought the lemon helped with nausea. I rarely get nauseous but time before last I took 10g lemon tek and I was nauseous. I do not fast before tripping as I have found no difference in the trip quality. I like to eat a little while before so that I know my stomach has something in it.



I notice a huge difference from fasting i would recomend you give it another shot personally. Once i didnt eat for 3 hours before a trip and my friend ate and mine kicked in aignificantly faster.

Ive been nauseous from lemon tek, the nauseous period is shorter though. Weather or not i lemon tek, i might feel sick i might not. It seems totally random. There must be factors effecting it though.




Last night I made tea with 20 grams. I didn't get nauseous at all. It was good.


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: DrEarnhardt]
    #23868294 - 11/26/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My theory is that when i dont get nauseous its because i ate a food with a serotonin receptor antagonist that binds to the serotonin receptors in the gut.

Serotonin receptor agonists like psilocin can not agonize the receptor because it is already bound to an antagonist. Ginger for example contains serotonin receptor antagonists.


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23868297 - 11/26/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That's a good theory. I haven't tried ginger yet because I do not like it at all lol.


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: DrEarnhardt]
    #23868590 - 11/26/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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That's a good theory. I haven't tried ginger yet because I do not like it at all lol.




aha, as a naturopath it's funny but I hate the shit too; yet it's in every cupboard.

"Plugging fungi"

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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: plurfekt]
    #23869089 - 11/26/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Holy fuck guys, coincidentally I cooked with ginger for the very first time the other night immediately before one of the smoothest trips of my entire life. You guys might be onto something here!


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: Get Shwifty]
    #23869168 - 11/26/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

i recently had an at least 10 gram trip. i say 10 because thats what i can account for i weighed an 8th, kept eating more out of my huge bag a few hours later, then lemon tek'd another 8th. its really hard to described what happened, the memories are very fragmented and i completely blacked out at the most intense parts and have no idea what i was physically doing or thinking or seeing. i had a conversation i had on the phone before i ate them confused with my thinking about it while i was tripping, I'm still not sure what i said and what i thought. i made the lemon tek into a tea drank half and took my dog for a short walk and the whole time i just kept thinking "i need to get home and sit the fuck down" after i got home i finished the lemon tek'd 8th and i completely blacked out and came to completely naked in my room god knows how many hours later with no clue where my cloths went. I'm not sure how long i was tripping for, I'm hazy on the timeline and i know the next day after a full nights sleep i felt happier than i ever have but very tripped out. the after effects seemed to have cured my depression for now (this was a week ago so well see how long it lasts.

you can also read about it in the mushrooms curing depression thread

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23868348


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: Get Shwifty]
    #23869976 - 11/26/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Holy fuck guys, coincidentally I cooked with ginger for the very first time the other night immediately before one of the smoothest trips of my entire life. You guys might be onto something here!




I'm sure it is far from innovative lmfao.


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: plurfekt]
    #23872483 - 11/27/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

innovative, no

surprising to me personally, yes


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: Get Shwifty]
    #23873062 - 11/27/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Don't get short with me, Mr.Frodo!

Lol, relax man.  Just sayin' ginger on a naturopathics-obsessed forum is not exactly a new idea.

I ate a PF cake once like 10+ years ago, as a bet.

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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: plurfekt]
    #23904380 - 12/07/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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"Plugging fungi"

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Oh?  Do tell?  Do the maths... your body begins to build up a tolerance to the 4HO-DMT as soon as it hits the system which is why you really gotta get the dose down all at once yah? 

So wtf, they do it with iboga. I bet some slurry of chewed up mushroom and mashed seed mush plugged in would prolly send anyone as far as they needed to go.

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