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plurfekt
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: SonicTitan]
#23844847 - 11/18/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I see a massive difference between fresh and dry, primarily in onset and intensity, as well as little variations that are subtle in low doses and very distinct in higher doses. I've been doing boomers for a very long time and have put this to the test, but everyone is different.
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Pandemoon
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AuroraBorealis88 said:
8-10mg per dried gram my friend. Goodbye
Yeah, that's what I said. I was correcting the other guy, not you! 
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: Pandemoon]
#23844872 - 11/18/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Damn I wondered why the end or your reply contradicted it.
My bad bro lol it's still early.
Edited by AuroraBorealis88 (11/18/16 10:45 AM)
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: plurfekt]
#23844892 - 11/18/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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plurfekt said: I see a massive difference between fresh and dry, primarily in onset and intensity, as well as little variations that are subtle in low doses and very distinct in higher doses. I've been doing boomers for a very long time and have put this to the test, but everyone is different.
Auroratrollialis... Welcome to my ignore list. Enjoy your stay.
Same here, been doing them for almost 15 years now. You're right tho we are all different. I agree the onset is quite different but never found it to be far more intense than dry. Maybe I wasent doing proper ratios of wet compared to dry. The onset of wet was slower for me I found and lasted slightly longer but the actual trip was about the same but was glowing for a few hours longer than dry.
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: plurfekt]
#23844896 - 11/18/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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plurfekt said: I see a massive difference between fresh and dry, primarily in onset and intensity, as well as little variations that are subtle in low doses and very distinct in higher doses. I've been doing boomers for a very long time and have put this to the test, but everyone is different.
Auroratrollialis... Welcome to my ignore list. Enjoy your stay.
I found the fresh ones to be more introspective. Almost psychoanalytical like LSD.
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: SonicTitan]
#23844942 - 11/18/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea, I mean.. the differences were subtle primarily I'd notice more active visuals with wet than dry, and the nature of the visuals seemed somewhat different. Speaking of visuals... xanax withdrawal + HPPD + the hydroxyzine I just took for the xanax withdrawal = there is a HALO around this damn white text box, ahaha.
Went to grab my M4 off the wall last night and I saw trails as long as my arm; was like whoaaaaa okay not the time to play with guns, lol.
In the end... my experience regardless of wet or dry, is cubes are cubes... the only ones I've had which the trip was remarkably different from all the others, was a one-time tray of wild Texans I did, and they were so damn smooth I could literally sleep on a quarter of them with my face melting into my bed comfortably; and ordinarily I refuse to trip without weed, at least one dose of benzos (hate benzos, but will admit they are good for come downs in this regard, ruining my life currently though) and I would never do them while tired because I knew I was going to be awake for at LEAST 8 hours. I wish I still had a print of those... damn. My favorite trip style ever for shrooms, smooth, highly visual and "comfortable" - was listening to friend of the devil during T-Storm and it jamming out in the dark outside, and came in and fell asleep to the flashing of thunder, it was awesome. Lol
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BANANA.MAN
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Pandemoon said: 1 percent is 1/100
1mg is 1/1000g
2% of 1g is 20mg.
Math .. 
I'm not going by percentage I'm going by how many milligrams of the active ingredient is in the fruiting body.
8-10mg per dried gram my friend. Goodbye
Thats a ratio which is basically a percentage. Its
8-10:1000
In milligrams
That would be 0.8%-1.0%
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23845177 - 11/18/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol ya sorry I got in now.
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numnum59
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I just dried 80 grams wet and ended up with 6.95 grams cracker dry, it was more like 0.0875g dry /1g wet
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: numnum59]
#23845416 - 11/18/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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numnum59 said: I just dried 80 grams wet and ended up with 6.95 grams cracker dry, it was more like 0.0875g dry /1g wet
It's highly dependent on growing conditions and genetics, due to the thickness/density of the fruits.
Penis Envy grown in colder temperatures is what I grow, typically - hard to get thicker than that.
Most cubes be like "I'm hollow, don't break me."
ya dig?
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: numnum59]
#23846268 - 11/18/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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numnum59 said: What about rue + shrooms?
I enjoy rue a lot. I won't trip without it.
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23846271 - 11/18/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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BANANA.MAN said: Wait you took a dry ounce for a fresh ounce?
I could not get a dry ounce down. Not that i would ever want to take much more than a quarter but That is fucking disgusting. Id need tea or some kind of evaporated extract.
Choking down shrooms gets harder and harder every time i do it.
Im going to have to switch to tea soon.
Its funny i can toss and wash 5 grams of kratom in one go and i could do 1.5g in my sleep but alot of people i know refuse to ever toss and wash. I have way more trouble getting shrooms down than kratom. The taste of kratom isnt even that bad just the texture imo. The smell of shrooms can induce flashback like anxiety sometimes. Ive associated the wretched smell with intense experiences.
My brain is like "dont fucking eat that" with the anxiety and smells even though i was probably looking forward to the trip for 2 days straight but i take it anyway and my brain sometimes goes "fuck! we are dying everything is really bad. Nothing is going to be ok" nitrous oxide, tv and yoga usually take care of that.
Blend the shrooms up, pour lemon juice on them. Let it sit for 30 minutes. Kicks in several times faster and you've already converted most of it to psilocin. No stomach problems from it so far.
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: Get Shwifty]
#23846511 - 11/18/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I do lemon tek alot of the time.
Also its not about the stomach problems its about swallowing those nasty shrooms.
Also psilocin is what causes the nausea. It is the acctual active compound. Psilocybin must be converted to psilocin to be active. It activated the serotonin receptors in the digestive tract.
Its just when you convert it all to psilocin beforehand you get over the comeup more quickly because it does not need to be metabolized further to make you trip. When you eat shrooms with a high psilocybin content, the psilocybin is hydrolyzed gradually so the comeup takes longer.
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23847360 - 11/19/16 01:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Half Oz boomers and 4 hits of lsd. Zero memory of experience. multiple times I just pas out on heavy doses... Does that happen to anyone else?
Edited by nowwhoutthink (11/19/16 01:34 AM)
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: nowwhoutthink]
#23847503 - 11/19/16 04:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea on doses ranging from 1/4 oz past the 10g mark
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: nowwhoutthink]
#23847586 - 11/19/16 06:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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nowwhoutthink said: Half Oz boomers and 4 hits of lsd. Zero memory of experience. multiple times I just pas out on heavy doses... Does that happen to anyone else?
Thinking back, yes.
But I'd often mix doses that high with high doses of Xanax; and it was just so damn long ago it's hard to fully say why.
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23848233 - 11/19/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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BANANA.MAN said: I do lemon tek alot of the time.
Also its not about the stomach problems its about swallowing those nasty shrooms.
Also psilocin is what causes the nausea. It is the acctual active compound. Psilocybin must be converted to psilocin to be active. It activated the serotonin receptors in the digestive tract.
Its just when you convert it all to psilocin beforehand you get over the comeup more quickly because it does not need to be metabolized further to make you trip. When you eat shrooms with a high psilocybin content, the psilocybin is hydrolyzed gradually so the comeup takes longer.
The "come up" taking longer, is that good? Should I go back to eating fresh?
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: Get Shwifty]
#23848250 - 11/19/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Preference; although most favor a subtle onset in my experience...
Sometimes I love getting slammed in 15-20 minutes flat - again, it's subjective, circumstantial, open to interpretation and largely revolves around set and setting.
Overall I'd say with the physical side effects of fungi; and intensity, slower would be ideal if you are trying to avoid a bad trip. Then again, I often am only uncomfortable as they kick in, and would rather just get it over with as quickly as possibly to enter egoless-land.
This is where experimentation comes in for the individual.
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: plurfekt]
#23848349 - 11/19/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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plurfekt said: Preference; although most favor a subtle onset in my experience...
Sometimes I love getting slammed in 15-20 minutes flat - again, it's subjective, circumstantial, open to interpretation and largely revolves around set and setting.
Overall I'd say with the physical side effects of fungi; and intensity, slower would be ideal if you are trying to avoid a bad trip. Then again, I often am only uncomfortable as they kick in, and would rather just get it over with as quickly as possibly to enter egoless-land.
This is where experimentation comes in for the individual.
...get it over quick...lemon tek!
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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: voodoochild1000] 1
#23848628 - 11/19/16 01:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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voodoochild1000 said:
...get it over quick...lemon tek!
Lol, I recommend this route for the more experienced users.
Someone who is not used to it and doesn't know what is about to happen, probably not a good precursor for the rest of the trip, lmao.
Then again..some of us were just born to melt our faces off. Still, we were idiots when it first happened.
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