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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: nooneman]
    #23830050 - 11/13/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I've dosed pretty high before, but never over 10 dry grams. That's into the pointlessly strong territory for me.

I would be less concerned with what the visuals would be like at that dose, and more concerned with the fact that my mind would be completely obliterated. I've read trip reports on here of people just laying on the ground curled in a ball unable to really move or think at doses over 10 dry grams.

Sure, some people are hard heads that claim to do 10, 15 on the regular, but for the average person such a dose is completely incapacitating. And even worse, if you're not incapacitated by it, you're committing actions that you have little control over due to the complete obliteration of your mind.

If you ever dose that high, expect to be completely comatose and unable to function for the duration of the trip.

Also, I would not like to see the come up on more than 10 grams...
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I'm not being hardheaded man but I naturally have a high tolerance for all drugs. it sucks TBH I wish that I could lose my mind on an eight of shrooms or a hit or two of pot


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: numnum59]
    #23830101 - 11/13/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: agreedwitboardrule]
    #23832088 - 11/14/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Hi everyone,

I am wondering, what happens when you take way higher than normal doses of shrooms?

If anyone could explain scientifically/chemically whats happening in your head that would be great.

If anyone has tried 15grams or more and can recount the experience, also great.

I had a friend who took 5.5 and experienced ego loss, had a bunch of good things happen (increased feelings of empathy, able to move past some emotional blocks, ect ect).

I am curious, if i dropped 10 or 30 grams, would I just pass out? would I  meet jesus/jeebus? What are your thoughts?

Thanks




Yes that's a great way to waste your mushrooms. You have a limited amount of serotonine receptors in your brain. As far as I know, a dose around 7g hits them all, and anything above this limit is just a waste. Maybe faster onset, longer peak. But that's it.

To boost the process, try fasting 2 days before the trip. Or trip every 5-7 days (it seems to go deeper every time). Or smoke potent weed.

Good luck. I hope you won't win Darwin award.


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: kyu]
    #23832096 - 11/14/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yes that's a great way to waste your mushrooms. You have a limited amount of serotonine receptors in your brain. As far as I know, a dose around 7g hits them all, and anything above this limit is just a waste. Maybe faster onset, longer peak. But that's it.




I would have to disagree with this to be honest.

the experience clearly gets more intense the higher you dose. and yes much past 7g level experience.


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: SleepyE]
    #23834525 - 11/15/16 06:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It is very very subjective. 10gr to one person might be similar to 2gr for another.

In my experience, for me, 8gr or so seems to be the optimal dose. I did 11gr and 10gr before and the beginning of the trips were divine but as more and more was absorbed it turned into nightmares.

I also think you learn to tolerate and maneuver the trip better over time and you get ready for more.

I would suggest to my younger brother, if i had one, to try 2gr, then do 5gr for a while.

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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: Ifitbeyourwill]
    #23834910 - 11/15/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have eaten a half oz dry before.

The fun really starts at about 5gr.  people who eat a gram or two and think they got high are really missing the point.  Yes a mild trip can be fun and the mood can be great on a low dose, it's probably a really good medicine for seasonal blahs, traumatic stress, and brain damages.

Clinical studies used 5mg 10mg and 25mg doses, at least the studies I read a long time ago this was the case.  if you do the math, even the most potent variety of psylocibian shrooms contains only around 2mg of active alkaloid per gram of dry weight.  So eating an 8th of shrooms is considered the very smallest effective clinical dose.  eating a quarter oz is where the therapy can really start and doses larger than 20mg or half ounce dry begin to take on a dream-like quality where time-space can become tangible and grand destiny begins to come into focus.  Concepts mortals typically never consider become obvious and seem common... it is difficult to explain and since each swims the tides a little different I try hard not to describe things others will consider as "given".  Your mileage may vary. 


long story short.  Most people don't really know what a mushroom high can be.  Even those who brag about eating large quantities might not really have seen what's there... please, walk softly for you tread upon my dreams. 




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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: travelleler]
    #23835048 - 11/15/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Clinical studies used 5mg 10mg and 25mg doses, at least the studies I read a long time ago this was the case.  if you do the math, even the most potent variety of psylocibian shrooms contains only around 2mg of active alkaloid per gram of dry weight.  So eating an 8th of shrooms is considered the very smallest effective clinical dose.





Wouldn't 25mg of psilocybin only be like 2.5 grams of mushrooms?


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23835061 - 11/15/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

2.5 x 2mg = 5mg


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: travelleler]
    #23835069 - 11/15/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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please, walk softly for you tread upon my dreams. 



equilibrium?? or that book they was referencing?

careful preston, youre treading on my dreams! :awesomenod:


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: SleepyE]
    #23835075 - 11/15/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Check out Kilindi Iyi


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: numnum59]
    #23835083 - 11/15/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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2.5 x 2mg = 5mg




There is more than 2mg of psilocybin in 1 gram of dried mushrooms.


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: Hacendado]
    #23835089 - 11/15/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Check out Kilindi Iyi




wow! in that video the description says entheogenic mushrooms were part of the kung Fu lifestyle.

i totally understand that.
psychedelics taught me how to liquid(rave hand dance) when i only knew the very basics it made it flow like crazy and have wild complexity. it takes on a mind of its own and i usually do it while tripping in silent darkness as something to keep my hand busy or express the bodyload im feeling. Sort of like figgetting to work off the excess energy.

psychedelics and the metaphor of breakthrough has been applied to many activities in my life like bodybuilding and even piano playing.

i push weight with more aggression and play piano with more ferocity and i think it has to do with pin pointing that break through feeling because that is what separates the mediocre from the grandiose i think.


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: agreedwitboardrule] * 1
    #23838895 - 11/16/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Back in 1999, there was a trip report called 50 DRY GRAMS that was the most amazing thing I'd ever read, had to be legit. I think it was lost in the great Shroomery crash.


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: Middleman] * 1
    #23839385 - 11/16/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I had 28 grams and I threw up pretty hard then I slowly dissolved into the fabric of spacetime. I felt every atom of my body break away and join the particles throughout the universe. I became everything at once it was mind breaking and I've never looked at the world the same since. that was my most frightening trip ever


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: psilly the kid]
    #23839743 - 11/16/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I smoked some deemsters on the backside of a shroom trip after i had been drinking all day. I dissolved into the fucking blanket i had on top of me. It was a crazy feeling. When the dmt was over, i remember coming to andfeeling like i seperated from the blanket like how you see people get transported on sci fi shows lol


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: numnum59]
    #23839748 - 11/16/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Dissolving and reappearing


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: numnum59]
    #23839872 - 11/16/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

10.5 grams. Of the best Mush I have ever had....:scaryshroom:

  I felt all reality come apart like a complex puzzle box...:vibin:

  ....8g dry cyans had me seeing the interconnectedness of all reality:llamastare:

  But this last run of 7n7 had me so so fucking tripped out...:mindexpanding:

  This last trip was for sure the farthest I've ever gone on and the most tripped-out I've ever been in my life:gotchronic:


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: voodoochild1000] * 1
    #23839892 - 11/16/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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10.5 grams. Of the best Mush I have ever had....:scaryshroom:

  I felt all reality come apart like a complex puzzle box...:vibin:




Gonna do this friday night. My new batch ive been testing potency. 7g last Thursday it was good but i coulda handles more. Either going camping or chilling with in a dark room with music and my wife


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #23843359 - 11/17/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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please, walk softly for you tread upon my dreams. 



equilibrium?? or that book they was referencing?

careful preston, youre treading on my dreams! :awesomenod:





It's from WB Yeats.  He wrote some stuff via automatik.  Also wrote a book with his wife as channel... recall, at one time it was considered fashionable to be an intellectual... and drinking the ink is an old thing, nothing new.  I'm certain they used fungi in their ritual.


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Re: Taking EXTREMELY high doses of Shrooms. [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23843384 - 11/17/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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2.5 x 2mg = 5mg




There is more than 2mg of psilocybin in 1 gram of dried mushrooms.





link?  or proove it!!  the work I reference from memory was from the 1980s if your homies cubes are 'the bomb' they can have as much as 2% per dry gram of active alkaloids.  Of the thousands assayed the most the cubies have is like 1.9%.  Azzies have more like 2% and a half percent more of the psilocin.  so 2.5% active alkaloid.  you'd need 10g of the very best fresh dried fungi to get 25mg of psilocybin. Double that dose if they are old dried out cubies. knocking on the door at 40mg is the realm of possibility only with a contingency plan like an ice bath or a personal bouncer and a heavy sedative on hand just in case.  That's how they roll in clinicals.  Seems wise to be ready for an emergency exit when you're really traveling deep. 

of course they never used MAOIs in the early studies... that would be interesting.


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