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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #23825720 - 11/12/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
Kinda looks like something I've eaten before but I can't quite put my finger in it.



You should try taking it out to dinner first.


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: flickedbic]
    #23825750 - 11/12/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah because all vegans eat nutritional yeast amiright


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: Shroomism]
    #23825784 - 11/12/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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PatrickKn said:
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XLCaps said:
Kinda looks like something I've eaten before but I can't quite put my finger in it.



You should try taking it out to dinner first.



I tried talking to it but it's been pretty tight lipped so far.. I think it's mad at me.


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: Shroomism]
    #23825808 - 11/12/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
Enjoy your chronic vitamin and mineral deficiencies.




That's assuming I eat bullshit.

And besides most Americans are already missing vitamins and minerals they need in their diet. If anything the shit they eat is robbing their body of minerals like gmo corn from the glyphosate.


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: Shroomism]
    #23825824 - 11/12/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah because all vegans eat nutritional yeast amiright




My girlfriends parents are vegan/pescetarian and they use B12 lozenges.

I prefer the yeast because it has a bunch more healthy stuff in it, and it just tastes cheesy so I can add it to lots of food.

A serving has:
Thiamin 9.6 mg 640% Riboflavin 9.7 mg 570% Niacin 56.0 mg 280% Vitamin B6 9.6 mg 480% Folate 240 mcg 60% Vitamin B12 7.8 mcg 130% Pantothenic Acid 1.0 mg 10%

Minerals
Amounts Per Selected Serving
Iron 0.7 mg 4% Magnesium 24.0 mg 6%  Sodium 5.0 mg 0% Zinc 3.0 mg 20% Copper 0.1 mg 6% Manganese 0.1 mg 6%


and 8 grams of protein.


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4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: flickedbic]
    #23826121 - 11/12/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I thought vitamin k was abundant in spinach.


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #23826136 - 11/12/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's abundant in all green leafy vegetables. B12 and D is all you need to worry about I believe. Magnesium, manganese, and calcium for minerals unless I'm missing something.


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Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #23826143 - 11/12/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Vitamin K is in a lot of greens.  However it's fat-soluble; so drizzle some olive oil on that salad and you'll get it.

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Fat-Soluble Vitamin Absorption

During digestion, your body relies on the presence of fat to properly absorb fat-soluble vitamins, including vitamins A and K. Your digestive tract breaks down the spinach, crushing the cells to release the vitamins within. Fat-soluble vitamins dissolve in fat droplets in your digestive system, then get absorbed by your intestines along with those fat droplets. If you have no fat in your digestive tract, the vitamins cannot dissolve properly and do not get absorbed in your small intestine



http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/nutrient-absorption-preparation-spinach-4483.html


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: flickedbic]
    #23828002 - 11/13/16 05:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Contrary to the many rumors, there are no reliable, unfortified plant sources of vitamin B12, including tempeh, seaweeds, and organic produce.



http://veganhealth.org/articles/vitaminb12

You can get it from nutritional yeast, however.  I love the stuff.

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Nuts and seeds = source of fatty acids (conversion of ALA to similar ones)




Conversion is actually very poor, especially in males. 

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(...)the degree of conversion appears to be unreliable and restricted. More specifically, most studies in humans have shown that whereas a certain, though restricted, conversion of high doses of ALA to EPA occurs, conversion to DHA is severely restricted.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9637947

I eat shrimp, it has the perfect ratio of Omegas and lots more good stuff.

There is an algea that is an alternative source I'm looking at... a good source of both DHA and EPA.

Spray-dried Schizochytrium sp microalgae.

18% DHA by weight.  Just be sure it isn't some 'Martek' garbage.


I used to be vegan, now I am now a freegan.  Basically if you're going to throw away meat, I'll eat it.




I had no idea about the seaweed and B12. Did some more reading and there's active & inactive forms? Some sites say seaweed is a source of B vitamins, others do not. On the packets of dried seaweed I eat (only "ingredients" is olive oil and sea salt), it lists seaweed as a source of B vitamins, with something like B12 360% RDA in one packet. I assume this is inactive B12 and/or it's fortified?  :crankey: But, I eat seaweed for its iodine and other nutritional profile.... not B vitamins.
I've heard conflicting reports on the conversion ratios of ALA to DHA :shrug:

Regardless, I'm not actually 100% vegan. I don't eat any diary at all but like meat and fish :lol:


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: daz01]
    #23828073 - 11/13/16 06:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think the mindsets good obviously so it all depends on the bigger picture.


ah but if your body has a sort of infection youhave to get the correct meals and meat helps a lot. And I'm just talking like small infections dont ask me how i know.


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: daz01]
    #23828081 - 11/13/16 06:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That's what happened to me too.  I picked up spirulina cause I saw the B12 content... but after a study, Dagnelie et al. say, "It seems unjustified to advocate algae and other plant foods as a safe source of vitamin B12 because its bioavailability is questionable."
http://veganhealth.org/b12/meas

I still love it for it's diverse nutritional profile and high complete protein content.

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The blue-green algae shot to fame in the 1970s when National Aeronautical and Space Agency (NASA), USA, used it for astronauts food in space.  Spirulina is rich in proteins (60%), amino acids, essential fatty acids, Gamma-linolenic acid (GLA) fatty acids, nucleic acids (DNA and RNA), beta-carotene (pro-vitamin A), vitamins- B, C & E, minerals like iron, potassium, magnesium, sodium, phosphorus and calcium, and phytochemicals such as chlorophyll (the green pigment) and phycocyanin (a blue pigment). Its outstanding nutritional profile, high protein and low calorie count makes it a ‘superfood’.


http://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/health/diet-diary-astronauts-meal-power-food-for-earthlings/


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I've heard conflicting reports on the conversion ratios of ALA to DHA





Yep, the conversion is extremely questionable... besides supplimenting DHA there are some tips for vegans:

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Traditional Remedy: Take more ALA, Reduce LA

The traditional way that vegetarians were encouraged to raise EPA and DHA levels was by increasing ALA and decreasing linoleic acid (LA), a short chain omega-6 fatty acid(...)  If (the conversion enzymes) are saturated with omega-6s, they are not able to convert omega-3s.

(...)

Do not prepare food with oils high in omega-6 such as corn, soy, safflower, sunflower, most vegetable oil blends (typically labeled "vegetable oil") and sesame oil. Instead, use low omega-6 oils like olive, avocado, peanut, or canola. Only cook canola under low heat and for short periods.

Add some ALA

Add 0.5 g of uncooked ALA to your diet daily (see chart). This would be the equivalent of:
1/5 oz English* walnuts (3 halves)
1/4 tsp of flaxseed oil
1 tsp of canola oil
1 tsp ground flaxseeds




http://veganhealth.org/articles/omega3

NOTE: There have been no studies on this method, so we don't really know if doing that would boost DHA levels.

I would recommend taking vegan DHA suppliments derived from Schizochytrium algae, which are now widely available.


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


Edited by flickedbic (11/13/16 06:59 AM)


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: Shroomism]
    #23828114 - 11/13/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Clams and oysters are certainly not vegan.





chicken is vegan though 'cuz chickin is a vegetable


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: flickedbic]
    #23828458 - 11/13/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've been looking at spirulina as a source of protein. What do you buy, what is the price, and how long does it last you?


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
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Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


Edited by Shiithead (11/13/16 10:01 AM)


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: Shiithead]
    #23828598 - 11/13/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Organic - 8oz/ $15
from MountainRose

A normal amount is ~5g / day but more is good too.

I put it in smoothies, on eggs, in salsa or guacamole, and over salad... It's plate-licking good; makes your body say YES!

Especially good in this Fukushima world.

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studies show how the phytopigments from this health food store favorite benefitted in children after the Chernobyl accident by helping escort radiation out of the body (50% decreased in 20 days using 5 grams a day) (Loseva et al., 1993).



https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/inner-source/201404/are-you-risk-fukushima-radiation-exposure

My girlfriends parents picked up easily used compressed spirulina pills rather than working with the powder (which can be kind of messy and the taste isn't for everyone 'tho it grew on me, so you have to choose wisely what to mix it into).


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: flickedbic]
    #23828614 - 11/13/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How much protein is in 5g?


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: Shiithead]
    #23828622 - 11/13/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

~3g
(It's 60% complete protein by weight)


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: flickedbic]
    #23828870 - 11/13/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Another one of these threads :knowwhatnevermind:


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: Shiithead]
    #23828880 - 11/13/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Vegan lifestyle is too fanatical.  I'll stick with being ovo-lacto-vegetarian who doesn't buy leather goods.


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Re: Vegan Lifestyle [Re: Mescalean]
    #23828882 - 11/13/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You'd have real muscles if you ate more vegetables.


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