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    #23823358 - 11/11/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: djsleepy860]
    #23823388 - 11/11/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Okay so yeah a little mistake was made with early fruiting conditions may have cause a decrease in your pin set, but other than that enough primordial growth has grown so you should still see some fruits if you continue to fruit from where you are right now:thumbup: bluing would indicate bruising from possibly misting too close/too much light/too much airflow(O2) though bruising does not mean serious problems unless it occurs on the mush:mushroom2:

Future reference: to insure best pin set allow primordial growth to cover about 75% of the surface (keep CO2 high for this but still some FAE). Pins will form naturally when primordial growth for your material ratios has peaked and pins when ready to fruit will have slightly colored caps differing from the stem. Primordia does prosper in an ambient light cycle.


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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: SporeDaddy]
    #23823426 - 11/11/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Looks fine i think. You'll surely get some fruits from it.


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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: TheShroomster01]
    #23823466 - 11/11/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, give it normal fruiting conditions.


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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: freespeech]
    #23823517 - 11/11/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

different situation but i had a shoe box get waaay more messed up
from no light when it fruited.

obviously mine went waay longer in the dark than 36hours but this tray
still put out a few flushes..



your tub should be good. give it tons of FAE

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Future reference: to insure best pin set allow primordial growth to cover about 75% of the surface (keep CO2 high for this but still some FAE). Pins will form naturally when primordial growth for your material ratios has peaked and pins when ready to fruit will have slightly colored caps differing from the stem. Primordia does prosper in an ambient light cycle.




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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: mushboy]
    #23823521 - 11/11/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

In nature, the mushroom would have these long stems and puny caps if the fruits found themselves in darkness (underground, buried in leaf litter, etc) and were trying to stay slim while they continue to grow and seek light. Once they find light, they still need to do their duty and release spores, so they will still grow normal-ish caps once good fruiting conditions are introduced.


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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: TheShroomster01]
    #23823554 - 11/11/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Looks fine



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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23823815 - 11/11/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What's the problem?  You've got shrooms and knotting plus the casing looks healthy.


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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: Kenetic]
    #23823964 - 11/11/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Okay guys just checking, i was just curious if they would grow normal after this. I jus wanted the best flush with best pinset but hopefully they still tield well, thanks guys


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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: djsleepy860]
    #23825104 - 11/12/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

These are ones I had pin in the dark that I forgot about.







same tray about 4 days later after getting light, all the shrooms beefed themselves up.





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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: blackout] * 2
    #23825427 - 11/12/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

that looks more like a contaminated sub problem than a not enough light problem IMO.


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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23826239 - 11/12/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

mine looked similar. the second flush came in nicely:thumbup:
the third kinda crapped out.. spawn was shitty.:thumbdown:


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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23827364 - 11/12/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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that looks more like a contaminated sub problem than a not enough light problem IMO.



really? have you had contaminated grows that acted like this with light throughout? or at least seen others with grows which performed like that, i.e. you saw grows with light throughout which were contaminated and started off with thin spindly shrooms that later got significantly thicker.

I was quite surprised at the growth, I had little hope but thought at best they might start to get thicker at the base as it grew, leaving thin/deformed top sections which would be in some way "different".


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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: blackout]
    #23827415 - 11/12/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

yeah the sub doesnt look happy and the pins looks like they're trying to escape, not trich-pins bad but similar.
lack of lights usually manifests more on the caps than the stems IME.
lack of fae can make mushrooms tall and spindly but even in a sealed off tub they wouldn't look that spindly.


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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23827487 - 11/12/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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lack of fae can make mushrooms tall and spindly but even in a sealed off tub they wouldn't look that spindly.


That tub was forgotten about, it had no real FAE, and no light. I am also not saying it was not contaminated. I was pretty sure it was the light that made them beef up like that, while your first post suggested you think it is solely down to contams. I was fanning after too, so both might have made a difference. I have had similar neglected grows in terms of FAE which did have light but did not have spindly shrooms like that, i.e. they did not suddenly beef up after a while.


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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: blackout] * 1
    #23827636 - 11/12/16 11:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The sub is quite lumpy, splotchy and disorganized though. We can all agree on that right? That isn't what I'd call an ideal surface. I'd side with space on the sub isn't healthy. But yeah the tiny ass caps and spindly stems are a characteristic of no light. I always see that on grows with insufficient lighting


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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: Mad Season] * 1
    #23827839 - 11/13/16 03:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I'd side with space on the sub isn't healthy.



Yes, it is bad looking, nobody said otherwise, but I don't think that has anything to do with them suddenly beefing up after first growing spindly. The OP was asking if his will fully mature and I was just showing what happened to mine when taken out of the dark.

Found a few more pics of them developing.







I see in an old email I noted they did not drop spores, or at least many spores, and that the tub was set aside as it looked dodgy. Not sure if the lack of spores is due to contams or darkness or a combination of both. I think that was the first and only flush out of them.



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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: blackout]
    #23828263 - 11/13/16 08:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

really bad conditions in terms of fae in particular can make them not drop spores,
fanning doesnt really do much fae wise unless you're all over them like a speed freak day and night.


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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: spacechildo] * 1
    #23840353 - 11/16/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hey guys heres an update- the flush went well after giving it light, so they definitely were long and spindly becuz of no light. The only noticable difference i see is that these fruits are about half an inch smaller than the fruits i recieved from the first flush on the other tray that was birthed about a week ago, since it colonized faster. I will leave a pic or two for clarification pyrpises. Any ideas why they are small and a bit skinny? Wuld this be more attributed to the water/mousture content of the sustrate thab light? FAE is very steady with a low power rotating fan going on and off every 12 hrs the same as my light schedule. Thanks in advance guys



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Re: Fruiting in darkness? [Re: blackout]
    #23840665 - 11/17/16 04:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Those dark shrooms sure are weird looking :popcorn:


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