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Re: ANyone watch hamiltons pharmacopia? [Re: dream.schmatics704] * 1
    #24831861 - 12/07/17 12:14 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry, after being a kind, loving person all my life I decided it would be better to practice expressing some hate for a change. I have seen  of the episodes but I never warmed up to him.


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Re: ANyone watch hamiltons pharmacopia? [Re: Peyote Road] * 1
    #24831867 - 12/07/17 12:17 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

A few days ago I watched the Salvia episode. Very lovely and insightful. Totally loved it :heart:
The PCP episode, I watched about 30 minutes, was garbage, in my opinion, though.
Next episode I'll watch the shroom one, I think.


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Re: ANyone watch hamiltons pharmacopia? [Re: deranged]
    #24831944 - 12/07/17 12:49 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

good for you. at least your not blaming the "magic Jew" for your hate built up inside of you.


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Re: ANyone watch hamiltons pharmacopia? [Re: dream.schmatics704]
    #24831949 - 12/07/17 12:52 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

woe is peyote


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Re: ANyone watch hamiltons pharmacopia? [Re: dream.schmatics704] * 1
    #24831997 - 12/07/17 01:13 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I think Hamilton is a decent guy. At least from what I can tell. The PCP episode is just a bunch of people that do drugs and talk about their personal experience. That is fine but I expected a more scientific or informative approach.

The Salvia episode in contrast is an important document in my opinion as it shows a traditional salvia ceremony. Who has ever seen that ever? Epic. Also I liked the vibes and everything. It was just awesome.

What hate you talkin about, bru? :grin:


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Re: ANyone watch hamiltons pharmacopia? [Re: deranged]
    #24832046 - 12/07/17 01:35 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

i agree the salvia episode was interesting but even the shamans didn't like him. first one rejected him because she could tell he wasn't really looking for healing but simply wanted to make a show on drugs.

In the toad episode you can see how shallow minded he is. "oh everyone should have this experience but there isn't enough toads to go around, so synthetic 5-meo-DMT". He doesn't appreciate the specialness of using a substance that came from a toad and think the synthetic version will give the same experience. Besides why should everyone have that experience? You can say that about any psychedelic drug. I am sure the toad is special, but so are shrooms, so is cactus, so is DMT, etc. There's no reason everyone needs to rush out and smoke toad secretions when they never even tripped before.


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Re: ANyone watch hamiltons pharmacopia? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #24832078 - 12/07/17 01:48 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

i agree the salvia episode was interesting but even the shamans didn't like him. first one rejected him because she could tell he wasn't really looking for healing but simply wanted to make a show on drugs.



This is your interpretation. Might be true or might not. To me this is of no relevance. The footage acquired seems genuine to me and satisfies my curiosity. You can hate on him all you like, I honestly don't care. But I think expressing negative feelings in that way may come back at you. Maybe not.


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Re: ANyone watch hamiltons pharmacopia? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #24832096 - 12/07/17 01:55 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

lol you are too much ... "the shamans don't like him...... then I don't". so irrelevant. who gives a fuck.. we need people like that. not everyone has to say some voodoo shit before taking a substance. good thought and good vibes never hurt


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Re: ANyone watch hamiltons pharmacopia? [Re: dream.schmatics704] * 1
    #24832175 - 12/07/17 02:28 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I agree but I think it is disrespectful to the shamanic traditions when a drug nerd like hamilton shows up looking for thrills and tv ratings.


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Re: ANyone watch hamiltons pharmacopia? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #24832208 - 12/07/17 02:36 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

if its disrespectful I don't think they would let him film then.iv seen some of his work and hes usually around shamans while taking these things.im sure some might think that.. some shamans are different than others. they have opinions too. disrespect would be him saying their traditions are a joke and laughing in there faces.he usually goes along with their traditions and rituals. hes not over there saying "hey I only believe in science none of this is real in my world.just give me this drug so I can get fucked up".. which I have not seen him do. that would be disrespectful and that would throw me off too. but he doesn't.


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Re: ANyone watch hamiltons pharmacopia? [Re: dream.schmatics704]
    #24832259 - 12/07/17 02:56 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

He doesn't say that but you know he's thinking it.


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    #24832266 - 12/07/17 03:02 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

lol that's your problem dude. so caught up on thinking about what other people are thinkin... good luck with that


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Re: ANyone watch hamiltons pharmacopia? [Re: dream.schmatics704] * 1
    #24832281 - 12/07/17 03:15 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I've seen three of them so far, shrooms, peyote, and dmt. I thought they were all great, I am definitely getting a San Pedro cactus at some point.


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Re: ANyone watch hamiltons pharmacopia? [Re: Psilosion] * 1
    #24832871 - 12/07/17 08:13 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

The show is 100% responsible for getting me to move on from just smoking pot to acquiring many wonderful Entheogens. I'm thankful such show even exist.. This material certainly would haven't been on the tube 10-20 years ago.

I think his presentation and appearance has matured a lot since the pilot episode "Getting high on Frogs". The natives were ripping on him in that one. Got to resect the lever of expedition into the jungle that one was.

The latest Peyote show was weak.. he could have done a lot more around the mescaline experience vs hanging out with the local kids. Totaly worth watching to see Peyote growing in the wild.

Looking on the web site there might be a San Pedro episode coming.  Ayahuasca should on the list too.


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Re: ANyone watch hamiltons pharmacopia? [Re: Peyote Road] * 1
    #24833237 - 12/08/17 02:27 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

It's aight. Not particularly informative, but certainly fun to watch. Our boy Alan Rockefeller was in one of the episodes.


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    #24853135 - 12/18/17 06:55 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I think some episodes are pretty informative. Like the Lizard School of Hedonism, salvia and mushroom. Especially the mushroom and even more the salvia episode I liked a lot. It's so cool to gain a new but old and traditional perspective on those subjects.

The Lizard episode was pretty interesting to in my opinion though sometimes I felt like it was staged or hat a weird vibe to it.

Unfortunately I can't watch the kratom and peyote episode which kind of sucks. And in the other topics I'm not really interested in. But maybe I'll watch them anyway.

Edit: The toad episode disgusts me a lot. I'm having hard time watching. Ugh... those poor toads.


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Re: ANyone watch hamiltons pharmacopia? [Re: deranged] * 1
    #24853187 - 12/18/17 07:58 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

To be quite honest I am not a fan of shows like this but I usually have less respect for people that almost try to popularize the use of psychedelics and drugs. This is largely across the board with any of the people that have done so but thats because im not one of those people that thinks psychedelics for for everyone, or even most.

I am not saying I think people shouldnt understand drugs its simply people like him put them in more of a positive light or for some reason it leads others to think its cool.

I could never have a show like this nor would I ever want to be on one. To me its more like "the matrix" in that actions in your life lead you to the discovery not so much direction from someone else on TV.

Hard opinion to express but like I said its not that I think people shouldnt know but the fact of the matter is some suggestible people will think he and the show are cool and that will be the introduction to drugs. Is it good or bad no its not either but in my opinion shows like this do a slight disservice to the goal of giving information.

This is why I prefer reading texts, way less drama or acting or whatever you wanna call it.


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Re: ANyone watch hamiltons pharmacopia? [Re: Violet Wizard]
    #24855364 - 12/19/17 08:01 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I think the show holds great information and gives insight into aspects of drugs that I would never have. I like it a lot.

I just started watching the kratom episode and I kind of get why the us government tries to ban it. People calling people to ask if they want to buy some kratom. Wtf?

Edit: Wow, the peyote episode is exceptionally good. So far the salvia and the peyote episode are my favourites.

Edit: Also about popularizing psychedelic drugs. I don't really think that is what is happening with pharmacopeia. Maybe I just don't see the "bad" intentions that are there but I see it as some kind of documentary. Of course it's no pharmaceutical textbook or a scientific report.

Though I doubt that pharmacopeia causes any problems. Our problems regarding drug-use result from propaganda, misinformation and missing cultural and social framework which would provide a diverse knowledge and understanding about what drugs are and do. That's what we need and I think, even if the intention of pharmacopeia is for entertaining purposes, contributes to a development of such a framework.

Have you seen any of the episodes? I can highly recommend the salvia and the peyote episode.


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