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OfflinePatlal
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To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. * 2
    #23819114 - 11/10/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Read it. Open your mind and understand it.

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Dear Democrats, Read This If You Do Not Understand Why Trump Won
Trump Is What Happens When You Nominate A Cheater and Live In An Echo Chamber—Please Learn From This

Did you read Wikileaks?

Well, you should have.

The “conspiracies” were true, and the mainstream media lied to you to about everything.

Wikileaks was not Russian propaganda, it was the news.

Wikileaks has a 10-year record of never releasing a single falsified document, and is not connected to Russia. Everything they released were the actual e-mails of Hillary Clinton and her campaign staff. You had the opportunity to look through a window into the Hillary Clinton campaign, but you didn’t.

By ignoring the leaks, you ignored reality.

By not listening to your fellow Americans, and accusing them of being “conspiracy theorists” and trusting the corporate media, you ignored reality. By only following other liberals on social media, and only reading liberal or corporate news, once again ignoring reality. When Hillary Clinton was caught rigging the primary against Bernie Sanders, and Democrats nominated her anyway they ignored reality.

Everyone was simply insulating themselves within their own echo chamber ignoring anything outside their bubble.

The Media Lied To Us About EVERYTHING

If you’ve been following my Twitter or Facebook account during this 2016 election you probably would have thought I was a Trump supporter. However, I am a former registered Democrat, a Bernie supporter, and consider myself a progressive libertarian. This was the first election I ended up voting 3rd party, but my second choice was Trump. I simply could not vote for Hillary Clinton because of her mishandling of classified information, and stealing the nomination from the people’s choice Bernie Sanders.

Hillary never should have been nominated in the first place. The first clue was when she was under FBI investigation, and the second clue was when she rigged the primary elections.

In an attempt to inform my friends, family, and followers I posted dozens if not hundreds of Wikileaks e-mails, and tweeted alt-right news just as much as I did liberal news. I did this because most of my followers are liberals, and I realized they were all living in an echo chamber on social media where they were not being exposed to differing opinions or news. I was mostly rejected by liberals for doing this, they didn’t understand why I was sharing things that made them uncomfortable, but now they know why. Ironically, I got far more support from Trump supporters for trying to tell Democrats the truth. I wasn’t expecting that.

I took it upon myself to understand Trump, and his supporters. What I found was millions of great Americans who had been disenfranchised, normal people like you and I, who did not recover from the Great Recession. They’re pissed off about Obama Care, endless wars, trade deals that have killed jobs, higher taxes, a rigged economy–and, they are not wrong.

Had Democrats taken the concerns of average American seriously, especially the concerns of Millennials, they would have quickly realized Hillary Clinton was not the right nominee for the Democratic party in 2016.

Bernie Sanders Would Have Beat Trump

I 100% believe Bernie Sanders could have created a political revolution to beat Trump, but instead we’re getting Trump’s revolution.

The reason Hillary Clinton did not win this election is because she never should have been nominated in the first place. There was a better choice.

Democrats let Hillary hijack the DNC, and use her corporate money to push everyone around. Meanwhile, she used Correct The Record to poison the minds of people online into isolating themselves with paid Hillary trolls. Had Democrats paid attention to the leaks they would have seen the mountain of evidence that told the world that Hillary rigged the primaries against Bernie Sanders, and was illegally coordinating with Super PACs like CTR. She should have been disqualified. The evidence is on Wikileaks.org.

Meanwhile, the media, and social media kept everyone ignorant and isolated from differing opinions. They lied to us, manipulated us, and made us think the rest of the country agreed with us, when they didn’t. They used their position of authority to mislead us into believing in a false reality—in propaganda.

This is the problem with America today, the technology that was supposed to bring us together actually isolated us into echo chambers and drove us further apart.

Getting the news from just your friends is a logical fallacy, you need to know your enemies, and realize they’re not much different from yourself.

There Is Good News

While you weren’t paying attention, Trump is actually a former Democrat. If you study his actual values he has far more in common with traditional moderate or liberal values than he does a traditional conservative. In fact, Trump may even be more liberal than Hillary Clinton on several issues.

The media prevented any kind of discussion on values, and instead focused on rhetoric and propaganda. So most Americans who immediately defaulted to what the media and Clinton campaign told them never took the time to actually get to know Donald Trump. They just watched the jokes on SNL, and corporate media blindly without considering other sources. While I’m still unsure about Trump myself, we at least know politically he’s actually a New York Democrat in Republican clothing (this is why the Republican establishment rejected him).

You also need to consider Donald Trump just overthrew a group of political elites who have been ruling this country for decades. He just beat the political establishment singlehandedly. No matter what you think about him personally, he just accomplished something historic to become our President.

At the end of the day, this is an opportunity to learn and grow and consider another world view. This is a wakeup call to get out of safe spaces, politically correct thinking, shatter echo chambers, and challenge yourself to consider the other side of the fence. This is an opportunity to reach out and truly learn to understand each other.

We all have to come together to solve any real problems with our country in the next 4-years. This election was a lesson to consider all ideas equally, regardless of established authority.

We need to come together and move forward together.





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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: Patlal]
    #23819141 - 11/10/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)


:awesomenod:


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #23819161 - 11/10/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

now that Trump has won, no one will care how Bernie got shafted. the cycle continues.


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #23819217 - 11/10/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Wikileaks has a 10-year record of never releasing a single falsified document, and is not connected to Russia. Everything they released were the actual e-mails of Hillary Clinton and her campaign staff. You had the opportunity to look through a window into the Hillary Clinton campaign, but you didn’t.




I did, and guess what, there was nothing shocking in there. Almost all of them were standard work emails.

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There Is Good News

While you weren’t paying attention, Trump is actually a former Democrat. If you study his actual values he has far more in common with traditional moderate or liberal values than he does a traditional conservative. In fact, Trump may even be more liberal than Hillary Clinton on several issues.




Actually no, some people speculate that Pence is going to be controlling everything, and if that's the case we're in for a shitstorm. Pence is a very conservative guy.


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23819232 - 11/10/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
Popular votes for...

Trump: 47%
59,704,886

Clinton: 48%
59,938,290




Popular votes count for nothing, which is as it should be in a Republic.


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23819257 - 11/10/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Crystal G said:
Popular votes for...

Trump: 47%
59,704,886

Clinton: 48%
59,938,290




Popular votes count for nothing, which is as it should be in a Republic.



No it doesn't but yes it should. If we are united as a nation the national election should include all votes as equal. I'm from Wisconsin therefore my vote is like 4x more important than yours, probably.


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23819261 - 11/10/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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Patlal said:
Wikileaks has a 10-year record of never releasing a single falsified document, and is not connected to Russia. Everything they released were the actual e-mails of Hillary Clinton and her campaign staff. You had the opportunity to look through a window into the Hillary Clinton campaign, but you didn’t.




I did, and guess what, there was nothing shocking in there. Almost all of them were standard work emails.

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There Is Good News

While you weren’t paying attention, Trump is actually a former Democrat. If you study his actual values he has far more in common with traditional moderate or liberal values than he does a traditional conservative. In fact, Trump may even be more liberal than Hillary Clinton on several issues.




Actually no, some people speculate that Pence is going to be controlling everything, and if that's the case we're in for a shitstorm. Pence is a very conservative guy.




Right? This whole letter sounds like a republican echo chamber. Its the same weak argument over and over again. Theres no substance. When asked for substance, the "Im not a conspiracy theorist" trump supporters quickly explode with full out conspiracy theories. Dont get me wrong, Hilldog isnt any better but cmon, you gotta do better than that


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: Patlal]
    #23819276 - 11/10/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Trump won cause middle and southern americans, which make a huge amount of americans, are afraid of foreigners, afraid to lose their jobs to foriegners and afraid that cops arent doing enough about the foriegners!

So Trump proposed building a wall to keep Mexicans out built by the Mexicans (yah right, maybe on Neptune), bring jobs back to America instead of being in foriegn countries (might be possible, we'll see bout that huge change) and restore "Law and Order" (code word for bringing back cop vs foriegners mentality. Think of the early 60's civil rights movements).

Plus, Obama failed to deliever so maybe people are desperate to "Make America Old Fashion Again". Thats why he won.

Also, the email scandal on Hillary's side didnt help her case at all, but i think thats small compared to Trumps overall messages he put across clearly, abetit vaguely.


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #23819280 - 11/10/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

America has a raging hardon for rich, white, rightwing, populist, antisocial heterosexual males. You glorify rich bastards and the richer and ruder the harder the hardon.

Trump is all that. It's that simple.


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: King Klick] * 1
    #23819285 - 11/10/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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King Klick said:
No it doesn't but yes it should. If we are united as a nation the national election should include all votes as equal. I'm from Wisconsin therefore my vote is like 4x more important than yours, probably.




Nope. The United States is a union of states. It is the individual state, through electors, that vote for President. The nationwide popular vote has no bearing. The statewide popular vote does.

That is as it should be.


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: Asante] * 4
    #23819289 - 11/10/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Asante said:
America has a raging hardon for rich, white, rightwing, populist, antisocial heterosexual males. You glorify rich bastards and the richer and ruder the harder the hardon.

Trump is all that. It's that simple.




:lmafo:

You're quite the bigot.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: Asante]
    #23819291 - 11/10/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Calling a spade a spade.


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23819296 - 11/10/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have no doubt you think so, which is why your comments are often as foolish as they are.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #23819305 - 11/10/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I feel sorry for anyone that even cares about this shit. Perhaps that's because I've already gone through the suffering that Brexit has brought to my friends and family, but really, could there be anything less worth getting worked up about in this life than some amoral wanker coming to power? It's far from the first time...

The people in power are pricks, and most of the general population are morons. It is what it is. All you can do is run from it, accept it, or be pissed off about it.

I've made my choice, what about you guys?


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: King Klick] * 2
    #23819308 - 11/10/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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King Klick said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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Crystal G said:
Popular votes for...

Trump: 47%
59,704,886

Clinton: 48%
59,938,290




Popular votes count for nothing, which is as it should be in a Republic.



No it doesn't but yes it should. If we are united as a nation the national election should include all votes as equal. I'm from Wisconsin therefore my vote is like 4x more important than yours, probably.




He doesn't care. He likes the system the way it is because it has a partisan bias in his favor. He doesn't care that in a representative democracy where the people vote to select the people who represent them, electing the candidate who received fewer votes undermines the democratic process. He will tell you we don't live in a democracy.

Debate with him is futile. He just wants to wear you down.


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #23819313 - 11/10/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I have no doubt you think so, which is why your comments are often as foolish as they are.



Says the man with a 3/5 rating from the members here, to a well respected and loved admin.

Asante certainly is eccentric, but that's just another reason to love him. I absolutely refute your claim that the man is foolish. In fact, it seems more foolish to me that you even called him out over this mickey mouse bullshit.


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23819321 - 11/10/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I feel sorry for anyone that even cares about this shit.




I feel sorry for those that don't.


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: koods]
    #23819322 - 11/10/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe if Hillary hadn't called half the country bigots and racists, she would have won the states she needed to win:shrug:

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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: koods] * 2
    #23819343 - 11/10/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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koods said:
He doesn't care.




To the contrary, I care quite a bit.


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He likes the system the way it is because it has a partisan bias in his favor.




I like it because it works well and balances the power of the states. You however, seem to prefer a system that would say to most of the country... 'shut the fuck up'.


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He doesn't care that in a representative democracy where the people vote to select the people who represent them, electing the candidate who received fewer votes undermines the democratic process.




I care that all the people are represented, not just the ones in the more populous areas.


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He will tell you we don't live in a democracy.




Yup. You're catching on. It's a Republic and has always been so.


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Debate with him is futile. He just wants to wear you down.




Not at all. If you should happen to be correct, I'll have nothing to say.

I suspect that will never happen to a partisan hack like yourself.


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Re: To all Democrats. This is the best explantion of Trump's victory I found. [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #23819348 - 11/10/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
I have no doubt you think so, which is why your comments are often as foolish as they are.



Says the man with a 3/5 rating from the members here, to a well respected and loved admin.

Asante certainly is eccentric, but that's just another reason to love him. I absolutely refute your claim that the man is foolish. In fact, it seems more foolish to me that you even called him out over this mickey mouse bullshit.




Rates or popularity do not make one correct or incorrect. Is that all you could come up with?

:lolsy:


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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