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Offlinedoorag2
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acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000%
    #23819053 - 11/10/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

one bad trip on acid has ruined my cofidence. my friends made me feel so self consious about myself in such a vunerable state. im trying not to hold back but im experiencing anxiety i cant put all my feelings in  this post. i  feel consious anout the way i walk now. i try to fake  cofidencebut it takes so much energy. ii'd ratber  just sit in my room and play videogames all day. i feel like everyone  is laughing at me  and can sense how uncomfortable  i am.  today i was in my culinary arts class and saw a really attractive girl that i didntt know and wanted to ask herr out but i couldntt and now i regret it. i dont know if i'll ever see her again but i want to.  my body shakes when i talk to people  because  of my social anxiety. on some days i will randomly get a boost of cofidence out of nowhere like a aderaline rush but after a while my mood goes down to  where it used to be. i think i might be bipolar or depressed.. i've cut down on my weed smoking because i wanted to be healthy iin  the head and body. there was a point it time where i quit smoking for five weeks. I  felt  REALLY sober but nothing else. i slighty expected to feel better but nothing happened. my mood was still the same on apathetic sober mood im always in, except for the occasional up and downs. i guess this is what being sober all the time is like, huh? weed just gives me anxiety anyways, but only in high doses. i just smoke alot to. impress my fake friends. honestly just talking out my feelings in a page made me feel alot better.  i think im gonna buy a bowl today. hopefully the headshop i go to sells underage.. anyone else feel the same way? can relate?


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: doorag2] * 1
    #23819278 - 11/10/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like 1 of 2 things:

1. You have pre-existing mental health issues which the drug has exacerbated.
2. You had a bad trip brought on by people around you being fucking dicks while you were tripping.

I've experienced #2 myself. Don't sweat it man, just stay drug free a few weeks, eat well, exercise if you can, and let everything settle. I know how unnerving it can be. We're here for ya.


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: doorag2] * 1
    #23819578 - 11/10/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think you've probably become somewhat hyper-aware of the spot light effect that has resulted in your state of now being over focused on yourself.

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The spotlight effect is the phenomenon in which people tend to believe they are noticed more than they really are. Being that one is constantly in the center of one's own world, an accurate evaluation of how much one is noticed by others has shown to be uncommon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_effect




Also never do LSD in an environment where you will feel uncomfortable or generate bad vibes because that leads to a bad trip. In my experience every psychedelic trip on shrooms or LSD can be guided with a safe environment and a good mindset with minimal expectations.


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: sudly] * 3
    #23820545 - 11/10/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Got social anxiety like crazy. When i was first dating my fiance there were a couple trips where i smoked a little too much and felt like an idiot for 12 hours and it took quite a bit of time to accept that she didn't think of me any less. When you get a thought like "damn i'm boring" or whatever and spin around that thought for hours on end in a vulnerable state it can be hard to bounce back from. One thing you have to realize though is its you're own projection. You're not actually any of those negative things as its entirely subjective. Just be you and let everything fall in place around that. If someone doesn't like who that is it's no skin off you're back because there are definitely people just like you out there waiting to meet you and as you figure out more and more who you are yourself you can design your life to spend more time with the right crowd. Turned out this girl is way more anti-social than me and we're pretty much perfect :lol: But there was that time when i let stupid social ideals clog my head and try and tell me how i ought to behave or feel about myself. Now we're basically planning a life in the mountains in permaculture and look forward to meeting fellow recluses. I feel extremely confident in myself these days in the context of the right people and where i'm headed. Put me in a party of ordinary folk or ask me to talk to my classmates though and I clam up.

I feel you brother. Try and give yourself a little love though. You are you for a reason. Don't fight it. Use it to your advantage.


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #23820643 - 11/10/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I tend to think the trip is that you're always you and your brain is electrically active in a 24 hour cycle so you should make the best of it because time is like a leaf in the wind, either it's time well spent or time you've wasted, so don't waste it.


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: sudly]
    #23821308 - 11/10/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

This may not be a helpful post. If you are in a fragile state of mind, maybe skip it?


Anyway. One thing I noticed, that you mentioned, is sobriety. Why did you cut back on weed? Was weed making you like your friends less? Did acid make you like your friends less? Or did smoking weed with your friends make you like them more? Sounds a bit like the acid was too much...

There was a fairly well publicized suicide back in 2011, a computer programmer pursuing a doctoral degree at Princeton. Dude had a bright future. His suicide note became popular on the web, because he accused his fundamentalist parents of molesting him. Whatever. In this case, there is another, way more important, and way more relevant part to notice:

He said that he stopped drinking so that he could make a decision with a clear head.

This is rock-fucking dumb. Guess what? Drugs make you feel better. It's not something that many people will admit, but there are lots of people that drink/smoke/trip because it's the only reason that they don't hang themselves. This dude, he mentally punished himself for the last few days of his life, telling himself "Well, I'm such a loser, I can't even be happy sober" "I'm a drunk, I can't even enjoy drinking without feeling guilty" etc. Sure, he was sober the entire time. I honestly think he forced himself into a darker place due to sobriety, with the outcome presented to the world in a suicide note.

Anyway, before I get too dark, or before I even touch the subject of child molestation and religion, I guess the point isn't "sober up and be better". The point is "be better, and if sobriety is a part of that, then sober up".

While I cannot fault sobriety at all, and honestly wish I could live a sober lifestyle for the rest of my life, sometimes, sobriety is the enemy. Smoke weed. Pop some shrooms and play a game of Smash Melee on Fountain of Dreams. Do it with your friends, and laugh for four hours non-stop. You'll have fun in the moment, and that is important. Improve yourself. Do your best. Just don't say "I stopped smoking weed and now I feel nothing". That's a problem that is best solved by smoking weed. Don't punish yourself with sobriety, get to a point in your life where sobriety is a state that you wish to exist in. Then worry about the weed smoking.

I deal with my social anxiety by buying another six pack. I have a [many] problem [s]. I'll deal with the consequences of those problems when I get to them, because the consequence of the lack of such problems is likely a funeral. Life is about finding a balance, no one ever said it has to be a good one. Sometimes, you gotta make a bad decision to improve down the line.


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: Kryptos]
    #23821840 - 11/11/16 03:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sudden issues after LSD use involving socialising and anxiety, ie. PARANOIA, should be talked about with a professional. Don't want to ring the alarm bells but there's this thing called . . . schizophrenia. Any insane relatives? Talk to your parents.

Do you feel like you're being watched outside of social groups, when on your own?

Can you separate your imaginings from what is actual?

Does your consciousness feel fragmented - depersonalisation? No real center to yourself?

Trouble with concepts, blank mind?

I don't know what else would cause paranoia after an LSD trip. You might have lost in the gene lottery my friend.

Talk to a doctor. Any doctor. They will refer you to a psychiatrist.

Blocking dopamine and feeling shit for a year is better than developing advanced schizophrenia.

What you're experiencing is probably temporary and will subside with medication + abstinence of drugs within a year.

Unmedicated, it could worsen, or it could get better, but medication prevents major brain damage if it's schizophrenia and you get it early.

Something to think about.

You don't take sudden psychological distress after LSD use lightly, mmmkay?


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23821962 - 11/11/16 05:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I recommend listening to beforethedawn. The man knows what he's talking about.


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 3
    #23823477 - 11/11/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Wtf no no no no no. Big difference between thinking people are watching you because of social anxiety and schizophrenia.


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #23824891 - 11/12/16 04:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

But straight after an acid trip?

I just, you know, maybe I'm overdoing it, but it seems probable, and I wouldn't wish that disease on my worst enemy.

*sighs*


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23824918 - 11/12/16 05:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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beforethedawn said:
But straight after an acid trip?

I just, you know, maybe I'm overdoing it, but it seems probable, and I wouldn't wish that disease on my worst enemy.

*sighs*




Yup. OP is not hallucinating people laughing at him. OP is surrounded by real people who he perceives as judging him. I don't know OPs past, but i got bullied a lot in early middle school. As an adult you might think "well that's delusional to think that so many people spend time focusing on you", but as a kid it can often be the truth. Kids will literally pick on you for EVERYTHING. Hell i got picked on for eating soup once. I got picked on for not talking enough, then for talking when i did. I got picked on for body image issues. For taste in music. I mean goddamned everything about me has been scrutinized by the public. Your brain develops to that kind of scenario to perceive a constant threat in the social environment. It's very very very hard to get past and I have to act totally passive around the majority of people to avoid putting out any sort of expression that might get scrutinized. Even then there are the things you can't change like body image. So i've grown a scraggly beard and long ass hair and typically dress like a bum. Part of it is exposure therapy, part to distance myself from the public. Everyone has their own methods but it will absolutely redefine your life. Social anxiety is a bad enough illness, but it certainly isn't schizophrenia. Given that LSD can unwire and rewire perception in dramatic ways there is no reason to think one couldn't develop social anxiety from a single acid trip in the right environment. Usually that person would have some past history that is just projecting during an acid trip. Like me with my girlfriend. She never gave me a weird look but i projected it because of my past. But if your friends are really dicks enough to beat you down in a vulnerable state like that I see no reason it couldn't happen. On the other side of things, tripping in safe spaces either with people i trust, regional burns, ayahuasca ceremonies etc have helped dramatically by changing how i perceive my interactions with those people. Of course those are not the people i associate day to day with so it's no short term fix. But point being there is nothing psychotic about this. LSD makes you more malleable to influence and unfortunately OPs trip ended in bad form.


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23824933 - 11/12/16 05:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
I recommend listening to beforethedawn. The man knows what he's talking about.




Hope you're being sarcastic.
He just sees schizophrenics everywhere because he's one himself.

The OP clearly does not decribe paranoia.


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: Murzelpfrumpft]
    #23824960 - 11/12/16 05:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm starting to think everyone in the world who doesn't think sentience evolved is schizophrenic because it would mean they don't understand how reality works.


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: Murzelpfrumpft]
    #23826132 - 11/12/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Murzelpfrumpft said:
Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:
I recommend listening to beforethedawn. The man knows what he's talking about.




Hope you're being sarcastic.
He just sees schizophrenics everywhere because he's one himself.

The OP clearly does not decribe paranoia.



Maybe not directly but he describes a mental disorder like schizophrenia? Suddenly he has all these problems after dosing a psychotomimetic drug.

I mean what else could it be?

Feeling like people are laughing at you is clearly paranoia.

:shrug:

Maybe because I have had schizophrenic symptoms HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, not lately, but historically, I can see the pattern of behaviour that suggests a psychotic disorder?

Be nice.

I asked a lot of questions to see if this was it, I didn't just assume.

But I mean come on, you're talking about major brain chemistry perturbation, then persistent paranoia, loss of confidence and apathy in the weeks following none of which he can will away?

Do you think it's self-esteem? I mean really.

Schizophrenia is extremely broad, but you don't get Parkinson's from LSD.


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23826147 - 11/12/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

This is a schizophrenic in action.


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: sudly]
    #23826162 - 11/12/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry if I get hasty but what's the only long-term thing that can go wrong from putting your brain in a state of chemically induced psychosis? Assuming you don't jump out of a 3rd story window...

There aren't many possibilities and it's one of the worst things that can happen to you. Worth a mention.

I guess we'll wait and see how he feels in the coming weeks/months. If it goes away then I talk too much. :sun:


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23826369 - 11/12/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Serotonin syndrome I think.
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Serotonin syndrome (SS) is a group of symptoms that may occur following use of certain serotonergic medications or drugs. The degree of symptoms can range from mild to severe. Symptoms include high body temperature, agitation, increased reflexes, tremor, sweating, dilated pupils, and diarrhea.




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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: sudly]
    #23826622 - 11/12/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think cannabis and psychedelics can bring out things that were hidden under the surface away from the conscious mind. This is maybe the perfect opportunity to learn about yourself OP, and to heal and move on from what you are experiencing. Once you've healed that part of yourself, you won't have to worry about it anymore. Just know that you are going to get better; don't have any doubts. Your own belief in whether you get back to normal or not is extremely powerful. I think psychedelics can kind of be like being given a key to your own power of hypnosis, and it could be easy to hypnotise yourself into believing you are stuck like this. You are not stuck like this and you must believe in your own will and willpower that you will get back to normal.

I never have any doubts about coming back down to normality after tripping, and I always come perfectly back to normal aside from a warm spiritual feeling deep within me which may linger for as long as I hold that feeling (much like if you hold on to a moving and enjoyable dream you had the night before until it drifts away from your conscious mind). It really is up to you to know that you will get back to your normal self. There's trips Iv'e had before that were so blissful and warm that I would have been happy to be stuck like that forever, but was only left with the residual feeling of it when I came back down.

I think the human mind is like a machine that you need to learn to use and how it operates. There is another mind also which is the mind you experience during oobe's/nde's which I think of as the spirit mind, which isn't susceptable like the human mind. Good luck Op, I'm sure you will be back to normal soon enough. Believe in yourself and the power of your own will.


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: wicca mixer]
    #23826680 - 11/12/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That's because psychedelics like LSD and psilocybin temporarily inhibit your fight or flight response through anxiolytic mechanisms.


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Re: acid has boosted my social anxiety by 1000% [Re: sudly]
    #23826738 - 11/12/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

sudly said:
That's because psychedelics like LSD and psilocybin temporarily inhibit your fight or flight response through anxiolytic mechanisms.



Not so. Many people get quite anxious on psychedelics for often bizarre reasons. I'd say flight is a more common choice though while on psychs. But the occasional fight choice still happens. 


Edited by PatrickKn (11/12/16 06:02 PM)


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