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Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories
#23819033 - 11/10/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is it possible?
When I was 4 my mother said I had a babysitter that I used to call girlfriend and I only wanted her to babysit me, the thing is I can't remember none of that.
Does anyone have a personal experience with amnesia types of memories surfacing while on psychedelics?
Edited by Gaspard (11/11/16 04:17 AM)
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Gaspard]
#23819075 - 11/10/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, especially subconscious memories. I've relived moments in my past many times on psychedelics
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23819207 - 11/10/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Memories don't work the same way as data files in a computer, where you can store them in a fixed state permanently for an indefinite period of time.
So, first of all, if a long term memory isn't formed, then no, there's no such thing as bringing it back. And if a long term memory was formed, but your brain decided that particular memory is no longer useful and removed it from your long term memory, no you cannot bring that memory back.
The other thing is that whenever you remember something, your memory of that thing doesn't remain the same as it was before you remembered it. Again your brain doesn't work like a computer. Every time you remember something your brain changes that memory to fit your mindset, so if your mindset is drastically altered by a psychedelic, then your brain could drastically alter that memory.
This means that if you remember that your mom told you a story while you're on a psychedelic, your brain could make up a memory to go along with that story and your memory of it being a story that you can't remember actually happening could be altered to become a false memory of something that you now believe you remembered happening.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories *DELETED* [Re: healing]
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Gaspard]
#23819338 - 11/10/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Unless you can find a way to verify it, nobody knows if it's real or not.
Sometimes it's better not to try to take your psychedelic experiences at face value, but rather to just appreciate the emotion they caused you to experience.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: healing]
#23820618 - 11/10/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: The Blind Ass] 1
#23820657 - 11/10/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think if you're going into a psychedelic experience and expecting to achieve a single specific outcome, you're probably going to be disappointed.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Matai]
#23820670 - 11/10/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Matai said: I think if you're going into a psychedelic experience and expecting to achieve a single specific outcome, you're probably going to be disappointed.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: The Blind Ass]
#23820684 - 11/10/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Blind Ass said: Yes, this is basically what shrooms are really for.
When I take shrooms I seem to remember old memories with more details, but never memories I didnt already know. Other times I have de ja vu feelings--the origin of these feelings is open to debate but I believe it might just be a memory which has never been "accessed" therefore it seems alien and not really like a memory.
It's like when you wake up from a dream, you can't remember what was the dream about but you have a feeling of whatever happened.
Maybe on higher doses who knows
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Gaspard]
#23820701 - 11/10/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Same, although My dreams in the weeks following Mush have sometimes later revealed old memories - not as they were, but warped, but from that I can gather some things that happened long ago in the past.
Lucid dreaming would allow for memory seeking, mushrooms idk for sure.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: The Blind Ass]
#23821201 - 11/10/16 09:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Gaspard] 1
#23821310 - 11/10/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have never really had them bring up "forgotten memories" but have for sure had mushrooms bring up some memories that were stored far at the back on my mind.
One time i ate 4.3g of Ps. Cyanescens and i ended up in this realm for about 10 minutes before the peak, where i was flying through a mystical place where there was bubbles connected by strings of water. My conscious was floating through this bubble space and i could choose to fly into any of the thousands of bubbles i wanted to. When I chose a bubble, it felt like i was back in my body as a 3 year old watching my grandfather cough his lungs out. I asked him if he was okay and he replied "I am fine, i just have a cold, don't get to close to me". Funny thing is this actually happened in real life and the trip literally threw me back into my 4 year old body to re-experience this. He died very soon after that conversation, to lung cancer. I also walked through a couple other memories in my life during that mushroom trip, but after the past re-living bubble realm ended, I didn't know who i was for a solid 3 hours.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: healing] 1
#23821398 - 11/10/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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healing said: Unless you can find a way to verify it, nobody knows if it's real or not.
Exactly. One trip I had took a very dark turn. I started having half-memories of something very terrible happening at a friend's house. I could see snippets of being there, but couldn't quite remember what it was. I knew it was something horrible though. Like my friend's father was a serial killer and I had found out about it somehow. Like I had somehow participated.
Now, was what I "remembered" real? Almost definitely not, but it sure felt like it during the trip. So much so that I had to start googling like mad the next day just to see if there was any possibility.
Of course this was all more than likely fueled by my fascination with serial killers from many years ago when I was thinking of going into criminal psychology. But the point is that during the trip and even afterwards it all felt like real memories bubbling to the surface.
Yes, psychedelics can delve deep into your mind, but just remember that there's a lot more than just memories lurking down there.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: fractaloctopus]
#23821887 - 11/11/16 04:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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healing said: Unless you can find a way to verify it, nobody knows if it's real or not.
Exactly. One trip I had took a very dark turn. I started having half-memories of something very terrible happening at a friend's house. I could see snippets of being there, but couldn't quite remember what it was. I knew it was something horrible though. Like my friend's father was a serial killer and I had found out about it somehow. Like I had somehow participated.
Now, was what I "remembered" real? Almost definitely not, but it sure felt like it during the trip. So much so that I had to start googling like mad the next day just to see if there was any possibility.
Of course this was all more than likely fueled by my fascination with serial killers from many years ago when I was thinking of going into criminal psychology. But the point is that during the trip and even afterwards it all felt like real memories bubbling to the surface.
Yes, psychedelics can delve deep into your mind, but just remember that there's a lot more than just memories lurking down there.
That's what I thought, psychedelics are more likely to implant false memories, it just makes you see whatever you expecting
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Gaspard]
#23822994 - 11/11/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gaspard said: Is it possible?
When I was 4 my mother said I had a babysitter that I used to call girlfriend and I only wanted her to babysit me, the thing is I can't remember none of that.
Does anyone have a personal experience with amnesia types of memories surfacing while on psychedelics?
All the time. It's one of the great things about mushrooms (at least - also researched with LSD). This is called "autobiographical recall" clinically.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23823101 - 11/11/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gaspard said: Is it possible?
When I was 4 my mother said I had a babysitter that I used to call girlfriend and I only wanted her to babysit me, the thing is I can't remember none of that.
Does anyone have a personal experience with amnesia types of memories surfacing while on psychedelics?
All the time. It's one of the great things about mushrooms (at least - also researched with LSD). This is called "autobiographical recall" clinically.
They can warp your mind in so many ways how do you know what is real and what is not?
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Gaspard]
#23823772 - 11/11/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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One wild pan cyan trip, i started to "relive" my life thru all sorts of past memories.
But to remember something u forgot? ouuuuu thats a tough one.
Mushrooms are much too variable to do such a thing.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Gaspard]
#23824019 - 11/11/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gaspard said: Is it possible?
When I was 4 my mother said I had a babysitter that I used to call girlfriend and I only wanted her to babysit me, the thing is I can't remember none of that.
Does anyone have a personal experience with amnesia types of memories surfacing while on psychedelics?
All the time. It's one of the great things about mushrooms (at least - also researched with LSD). This is called "autobiographical recall" clinically.
They can warp your mind in so many ways how do you know what is real and what is not?
How do you know anything?
If you're REALLY interested google the fMRI studies of psychedelic effects on the brain as published by Robin Carhart-Harris et al. regarding what I said, "autobiographical recall". The portions of the brain that are known to mediate this kind of memory recall are stimulated by psilocin. They have some interesting findings there. And of course there are hundreds of case studies showing the exact same thing. This all started back in the '60s with the research by Leary and Hoffmann mostly, but that was before my time.
Or, alternatively, trip deep a few hundred times and find out for yourself.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23824066 - 11/11/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The worst trip i ever had was on 4acodmt and it was based on remembering memories.
It was random memories from days before and they were all chopped up in an uncontrollable backwards mode that was pure hell BUT it was based on memories alone which goes to show me that its possible, OP
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#23824083 - 11/11/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I always trip about things.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: sunshine]
#23824170 - 11/11/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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They just pop up unannounced , IME. It can be very helpful if you're trying to clear thought loops and the like that are buried in the subconscious, the drugs bring these things to conscious attention where you can actually do something about them. I've had all kinds of lost stuff from my childhood appear, and once you work through it, you're free of it. That happens to be the basic premise of a whole lot of psychoanalysis as well, only doing it this way is a lot cheaper.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23836364 - 11/15/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: They just pop up unannounced , IME. It can be very helpful if you're trying to clear thought loops and the like that are buried in the subconscious, the drugs bring these things to conscious attention where you can actually do something about them. I've had all kinds of lost stuff from my childhood appear, and once you work through it, you're free of it. That happens to be the basic premise of a whole lot of psychoanalysis as well, only doing it this way is a lot cheaper. 
Recently met a girl who says she remembers me from when we used to go to the daycare, she was almost 6 and I was 4, she even has a picture of us together, but I cant remember her.
Do you guys think if I take 3 grams of shrooms and look at the picture will I remember? Or should I take a higher dose?
I have this feeling I know her from a very distant past, but that's it.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Gaspard]
#23836450 - 11/15/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've brought lots of my childhood back to life... You might.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23836861 - 11/15/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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What people think are memories lol. You literally form memories that you swear are real and actually happened when in reality it never happened.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
#23837018 - 11/15/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is a very interesting topic. A recent study showed how psychedelics (LSD in particular) effect brain activity and blood flow and concluded that in ego dissolution our brains actually revert back to how they would function as infants. During this ego dissolution functions such as sight, which are usually dedicated to one specific area of the brain, are processed in almost all areas of the brain, which gives rise to the merging of all senses (eg: seeing colourful geometric patterns when listening to music).
Maybe the mechanism of action of recalling past memories that were previously forgotten has something to do with this merging of brain functions. Possibly causing very old neural connections to become active again, thus triggering the recall of very old memories?
Very interesting.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Gaspard]
#23837067 - 11/15/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes and it will happen on the comedown usually in the emotional stage right after the peak.
On an LSD trip though I feel that it could really happen at any time. More continuity throughout the experience.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Bardy]
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Bardy said: concluded that in ego dissolution our brains actually revert back to how they would function as infants. During this ego dissolution functions such as sight, which are usually dedicated to one specific area of the brain, are processed in almost all areas of the brain, which gives rise to the merging of all senses (eg: seeing colourful geometric patterns when listening to music).
Maybe the mechanism of action of recalling past memories that were previously forgotten has something to do with this merging of brain functions.
I was born with synesthesia so are you saying I have the brain of an infant! Lol
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Bardy]
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Most early memories are really memories of memories. Or memories of memories of memories. And so on and so on...
During one of my recent trips I was in my bed in the quiet darkness and I started remembering the sound of my parents voices. I spent a lot of time as a kid in my bedroom with the door open. I could always hear my parents talking in the kitchen and there's a permanent stream of it recorded in my memory. In the right mindset, if I concentrate enough words start jumping out and I can almost make out what they're talking about. My dad talking about politics, yelling at the TV. My mom talking about her friends. It's all in there.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Universe]
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Haha, no I'm not trying to say you or anyone with synesthesia has the brain of an infant, just that psychedelics tend to bring on all these effects at once 
If you don't mind me asking, what kind of things do you perceive?
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Universe]
#23837234 - 11/15/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The interesting about memory formation as an infant is that you can remember feelings, but not memories. That's why when I try to remember i have flashbacks of feelings that i dont know what are they about.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Bardy]
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Bardy said: If you don't mind me asking, what kind of things do you perceive?
Mostly just the typical letters and numbers as colors but I also associative certain songs with colors too and even sometimes associate certain topics and subjects with certain geographical locations.
So it's mostly just associative synesthesia not projective synesthesia which is actually seeing the colors however I can very very easily experience projective synesthesia on psychedelics and even weed.
I had a breakthrough THC experience last December and I remember listening to a song and experiencing synesthesia just as often and as vividly as I would if I was on a real psychedelic. It's like when I had the breakthrough trip with THC synesthesia came to me equally as easy as it does on mushrooms or L.
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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Bardy]
#23838541 - 11/16/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bardy said: This is a very interesting topic. A recent study showed how psychedelics (LSD in particular) effect brain activity and blood flow and concluded that in ego dissolution our brains actually revert back to how they would function as infants. During this ego dissolution functions such as sight, which are usually dedicated to one specific area of the brain, are processed in almost all areas of the brain, which gives rise to the merging of all senses (eg: seeing colourful geometric patterns when listening to music).
Maybe the mechanism of action of recalling past memories that were previously forgotten has something to do with this merging of brain functions. Possibly causing very old neural connections to become active again, thus triggering the recall of very old memories?
Very interesting.
I suspect a lot of people have had the experience where they recall certain trips vividly (or at all) when they're tripping again - or episodes with weed when they're smoking again. This is common IME, and the shape of your thoughts (AKA "headspace") influences what you can access.
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