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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: sunshine]
    #23824170 - 11/11/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

They just pop up unannounced , IME.  It can be very helpful if you're trying to clear thought loops and the like that are buried in the subconscious, the drugs bring these things to conscious attention where you can actually do something about them.  I've had all kinds of lost stuff from my childhood appear, and once you work through it, you're free of it.  That happens to be the basic premise of a whole lot of psychoanalysis as well, only doing it this way is a lot cheaper.  :zombie2:


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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23836364 - 11/15/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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They just pop up unannounced , IME.  It can be very helpful if you're trying to clear thought loops and the like that are buried in the subconscious, the drugs bring these things to conscious attention where you can actually do something about them.  I've had all kinds of lost stuff from my childhood appear, and once you work through it, you're free of it.  That happens to be the basic premise of a whole lot of psychoanalysis as well, only doing it this way is a lot cheaper.  :zombie2:




Recently met a girl who says she remembers me from when we used to go to the daycare, she was almost 6 and I was 4, she even has a picture of us together, but I cant remember her.

Do you guys think if I take 3 grams of shrooms and look at the picture will I remember? Or should I take a higher dose?

I have this feeling I know her from a very distant past, but that's it.


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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Gaspard]
    #23836450 - 11/15/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've brought lots of my childhood back to life... You might.


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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23836861 - 11/15/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What people think are memories lol. You literally form memories that you swear are real and actually happened when in reality it never happened.


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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23837018 - 11/15/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

This is a very interesting topic. A recent study showed how psychedelics (LSD in particular) effect brain activity and blood flow and concluded that in ego dissolution our brains actually revert back to how they would function as infants. During this ego dissolution functions such as sight, which are usually dedicated to one specific area of the brain, are processed in almost all areas of the brain, which gives rise to the merging of all senses (eg: seeing colourful geometric patterns when listening to music).

Maybe the mechanism of action of recalling past memories that were previously forgotten has something to do with this merging of brain functions. Possibly causing very old neural connections to become active again, thus triggering the recall of very old memories?

Very interesting.


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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Gaspard]
    #23837067 - 11/15/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yes and it will happen on the comedown usually in the emotional stage right after the peak.

On an LSD trip though I feel that it could really happen at any time. More continuity throughout the experience.


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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Bardy]
    #23837074 - 11/15/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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concluded that in ego dissolution our brains actually revert back to how they would function as infants. During this ego dissolution functions such as sight, which are usually dedicated to one specific area of the brain, are processed in almost all areas of the brain, which gives rise to the merging of all senses (eg: seeing colourful geometric patterns when listening to music).

Maybe the mechanism of action of recalling past memories that were previously forgotten has something to do with this merging of brain functions.




I was born with synesthesia so are you saying I have the brain of an infant! Lol


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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Bardy]
    #23837089 - 11/15/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Most early memories are really memories of memories. Or memories of memories of memories. And so on and so on...

During one of my recent trips I was in my bed in the quiet darkness and I started remembering the sound of my parents voices. I spent a lot of time as a kid in my bedroom with the door open. I could always hear my parents talking in the kitchen and there's a permanent stream of it recorded in my memory. In the right mindset, if I concentrate enough words start jumping out and I can almost make out what they're talking about. My dad talking about politics, yelling at the TV. My mom talking about her friends. It's all in there.


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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Universe]
    #23837213 - 11/15/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Haha, no I'm not trying to say you or anyone with synesthesia has the brain of an infant, just that psychedelics tend to bring on all these effects at once :smile:

If you don't mind me asking, what kind of things do you perceive?


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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Universe]
    #23837234 - 11/15/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The interesting about memory formation as an infant is that you can remember feelings, but not memories. That's why when I try to remember i have flashbacks of feelings that i dont know what are they about.


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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Bardy]
    #23837288 - 11/15/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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If you don't mind me asking, what kind of things do you perceive?




Mostly just the typical letters and numbers as colors but I also associative certain songs with colors too and even sometimes associate certain topics and subjects with certain geographical locations.

So it's mostly just associative synesthesia not projective synesthesia which is actually seeing the colors however I can very very easily experience projective synesthesia on psychedelics and even weed.

I had a breakthrough THC experience last December and I remember listening to a song and experiencing synesthesia just as often and as vividly as I would if I was on a real psychedelic. It's like when I had the breakthrough trip with THC synesthesia came to me equally as easy as it does on mushrooms or L.


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Re: Using shrooms to remember forgotten memories [Re: Bardy]
    #23838541 - 11/16/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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This is a very interesting topic. A recent study showed how psychedelics (LSD in particular) effect brain activity and blood flow and concluded that in ego dissolution our brains actually revert back to how they would function as infants. During this ego dissolution functions such as sight, which are usually dedicated to one specific area of the brain, are processed in almost all areas of the brain, which gives rise to the merging of all senses (eg: seeing colourful geometric patterns when listening to music).

Maybe the mechanism of action of recalling past memories that were previously forgotten has something to do with this merging of brain functions. Possibly causing very old neural connections to become active again, thus triggering the recall of very old memories?

Very interesting.




I suspect a lot of people have had the experience where they recall certain trips vividly (or at all) when they're tripping again - or episodes with weed when they're smoking again.  This is common IME, and the shape of your thoughts (AKA "headspace") influences what you can access.


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