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OfflineEnemaOfState
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Is this the precursor to LSD?
    #23818637 - 11/10/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Moved to Thailand recently and my girlfriend had bought some meds at the pharmacy for migraines. Lo and be hold the active ingredients are caffeine and ERGOTAMINE.

I thought ergotamine was the precursor to LSD and is extremely difficult to come by. Can anyone shed some light?



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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: EnemaOfState]
    #23818643 - 11/10/16 07:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah ergotamine is one of the main and first precursors to making acid, it's in too small of quantities in medication like that to be feasable to do make any substantial amount of acid to be worth the money though


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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Sheekle] * 7
    #23818694 - 11/10/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

toothpaste, orange peel, boom LSD-25

am I right or am I right


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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Niffla]
    #23818702 - 11/10/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

They sell it in Mexico as well.


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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #23818705 - 11/10/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

get a license for it and then get a fuckton and become thailands lsd kingpin.


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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: sanchothestoner] * 1
    #23818722 - 11/10/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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get a license for it and then get a fuckton and become thailands lsd kingpin.




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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Niffla]
    #23818802 - 11/10/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It was also just on the shelf btw. No script or anything weird to get it. Just like buying tums or Tylenol


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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: EnemaOfState] * 2
    #23818808 - 11/10/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

tbh, you could prolly do it since people pretty much go in and buy legal stuff to make meth.

i say go for it.  buy out all the ergotamine in yer area.


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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: sanchothestoner] * 3
    #23818841 - 11/10/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ya what about the other reagents.  Gonna have to watch the dark web and not get busted with those.

I'd hate to be in a south pacific prison.


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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23818851 - 11/10/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Niffla]
    #23818969 - 11/10/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Niffla said:
toothpaste, orange peel, boom LSD-25

am I right or am I right





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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23819019 - 11/10/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

A dumbass I kicked it with used to stand on main street trying to get people to buy him fosters beer so he could do the fosters beer tek.

Fuckin AC was ridiculous.

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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23819027 - 11/10/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Ya what about the other reagents.  Gonna have to watch the dark web and not get busted with those.

I'd hate to be in a south pacific prison.




true.  everything to make lsd is very highly supervised and hard to get.  making lsd itself isn't that difficult.  it's getting everything that makes it a challenge.


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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: vandago] * 1
    #23819037 - 11/10/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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A dumbass I kicked it with used to stand on main street trying to get people to buy him fosters beer so he could do the fosters beer tek.

Fuckin AC was ridiculous.




this dumbass junkie kid in high school that we called the phantom shitter (cause he was at a party, shit his pants, then left) and told me he could get acid.  i asked from where and he said he made it himself.

fucking dumbass, the phantom shitter was.


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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #23819049 - 11/10/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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tbh, you could prolly do it since people pretty much go in and buy legal stuff to make meth.

i say go for it.  buy out all the ergotamine in yer area.




Ya but then he has to buy all the parts for a $100,000+ laboratory, then he has to get a chemistry degree, then he has to put the whole lab together somewhere super hella remote and get a whole bunch of other obscure chemicals before he can even begin an actual synthesis


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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23819062 - 11/10/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

ya i know, i forgot about that aspect.


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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #23819069 - 11/10/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

vandago said:
A dumbass I kicked it with used to stand on main street trying to get people to buy him fosters beer so he could do the fosters beer tek.

Fuckin AC was ridiculous.




this dumbass junkie kid in high school that we called the phantom shitter (cause he was at a party, shit his pants, then left) and told me he could get acid.  i asked from where and he said he made it himself.

fucking dumbass, the phantom shitter was.






So many of those dumbasses.  It's crazy when you run into one as an adult. Like how the fuck are you 43 and you still think mushrooms only come out under a full moon to poison teenagers?

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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23819225 - 11/10/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

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tbh, you could prolly do it since people pretty much go in and buy legal stuff to make meth.

i say go for it.  buy out all the ergotamine in yer area.




Ya but then he has to buy all the parts for a $100,000+ laboratory, then he has to get a chemistry degree, then he has to put the whole lab together somewhere super hella remote and get a whole bunch of other obscure chemicals before he can even begin an actual synthesis




Nah its not that crazy. The major downside to pills is that for every 1 mg of ET, youll only get 0.5 mg lsd at 100% yield (impossible). For any appreciable amout of acid, youre gonna need thousands of pills. Financially, its just not worth it. There are much cheaper ways.

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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #23819307 - 11/10/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yes it is.

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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23819328 - 11/10/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

sanchothestoner said:
tbh, you could prolly do it since people pretty much go in and buy legal stuff to make meth.

i say go for it.  buy out all the ergotamine in yer area.




Ya but then he has to buy all the parts for a $100,000+ laboratory, then he has to get a chemistry degree, then he has to put the whole lab together somewhere super hella remote and get a whole bunch of other obscure chemicals before he can even begin an actual synthesis



Ergotamine is the hardest chemical to get.

You can synthesize your own diethylamine.

The problem is not that now he needs more chemicals. The problem is that he needs a stable lab environment. LSD is not meth it needs to be synthesized under an inert atmosphere.

And they will not get enough LSD from these pills to sell to pay for the lab. You would be contructing a lab for a few mg of LSD of which some would probably be lost during the synthesis.

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