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Is this the precursor to LSD?
#23818637 - 11/10/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Moved to Thailand recently and my girlfriend had bought some meds at the pharmacy for migraines. Lo and be hold the active ingredients are caffeine and ERGOTAMINE.
I thought ergotamine was the precursor to LSD and is extremely difficult to come by. Can anyone shed some light?
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: EnemaOfState]
#23818643 - 11/10/16 07:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah ergotamine is one of the main and first precursors to making acid, it's in too small of quantities in medication like that to be feasable to do make any substantial amount of acid to be worth the money though
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Sheekle] 7
#23818694 - 11/10/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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toothpaste, orange peel, boom LSD-25
am I right or am I right
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Niffla]
#23818702 - 11/10/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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They sell it in Mexico as well.
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Morel Guy] 1
#23818705 - 11/10/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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get a license for it and then get a fuckton and become thailands lsd kingpin.
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sanchothestoner said: get a license for it and then get a fuckton and become thailands lsd kingpin.
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Niffla]
#23818802 - 11/10/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It was also just on the shelf btw. No script or anything weird to get it. Just like buying tums or Tylenol
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: EnemaOfState] 2
#23818808 - 11/10/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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tbh, you could prolly do it since people pretty much go in and buy legal stuff to make meth.
i say go for it. buy out all the ergotamine in yer area.
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Ya what about the other reagents. Gonna have to watch the dark web and not get busted with those.
I'd hate to be in a south pacific prison.
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Morel Guy]
#23818851 - 11/10/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Niffla]
#23818969 - 11/10/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Niffla said: toothpaste, orange peel, boom LSD-25
am I right or am I right
big red tek
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23819019 - 11/10/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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A dumbass I kicked it with used to stand on main street trying to get people to buy him fosters beer so he could do the fosters beer tek.
Fuckin AC was ridiculous.
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Morel Guy]
#23819027 - 11/10/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: Ya what about the other reagents. Gonna have to watch the dark web and not get busted with those.
I'd hate to be in a south pacific prison.
true. everything to make lsd is very highly supervised and hard to get. making lsd itself isn't that difficult. it's getting everything that makes it a challenge.
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: vandago] 1
#23819037 - 11/10/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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vandago said: A dumbass I kicked it with used to stand on main street trying to get people to buy him fosters beer so he could do the fosters beer tek.
Fuckin AC was ridiculous.
this dumbass junkie kid in high school that we called the phantom shitter (cause he was at a party, shit his pants, then left) and told me he could get acid. i asked from where and he said he made it himself.
fucking dumbass, the phantom shitter was.
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sanchothestoner said: tbh, you could prolly do it since people pretty much go in and buy legal stuff to make meth.
i say go for it. buy out all the ergotamine in yer area.
Ya but then he has to buy all the parts for a $100,000+ laboratory, then he has to get a chemistry degree, then he has to put the whole lab together somewhere super hella remote and get a whole bunch of other obscure chemicals before he can even begin an actual synthesis
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#23819062 - 11/10/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ya i know, i forgot about that aspect.
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sanchothestoner said:
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vandago said: A dumbass I kicked it with used to stand on main street trying to get people to buy him fosters beer so he could do the fosters beer tek.
Fuckin AC was ridiculous.
this dumbass junkie kid in high school that we called the phantom shitter (cause he was at a party, shit his pants, then left) and told me he could get acid. i asked from where and he said he made it himself.
fucking dumbass, the phantom shitter was.
So many of those dumbasses. It's crazy when you run into one as an adult. Like how the fuck are you 43 and you still think mushrooms only come out under a full moon to poison teenagers?
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#23819225 - 11/10/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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sanchothestoner said: tbh, you could prolly do it since people pretty much go in and buy legal stuff to make meth.
i say go for it. buy out all the ergotamine in yer area.
Ya but then he has to buy all the parts for a $100,000+ laboratory, then he has to get a chemistry degree, then he has to put the whole lab together somewhere super hella remote and get a whole bunch of other obscure chemicals before he can even begin an actual synthesis
Nah its not that crazy. The major downside to pills is that for every 1 mg of ET, youll only get 0.5 mg lsd at 100% yield (impossible). For any appreciable amout of acid, youre gonna need thousands of pills. Financially, its just not worth it. There are much cheaper ways.
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Yes it is.
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#23819328 - 11/10/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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sanchothestoner said: tbh, you could prolly do it since people pretty much go in and buy legal stuff to make meth.
i say go for it. buy out all the ergotamine in yer area.
Ya but then he has to buy all the parts for a $100,000+ laboratory, then he has to get a chemistry degree, then he has to put the whole lab together somewhere super hella remote and get a whole bunch of other obscure chemicals before he can even begin an actual synthesis
Ergotamine is the hardest chemical to get.
You can synthesize your own diethylamine.
The problem is not that now he needs more chemicals. The problem is that he needs a stable lab environment. LSD is not meth it needs to be synthesized under an inert atmosphere.
And they will not get enough LSD from these pills to sell to pay for the lab. You would be contructing a lab for a few mg of LSD of which some would probably be lost during the synthesis.
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23819401 - 11/10/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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BANANA.MAN said: Yes it is.
Maybe if youre selling individual sheets. Good luck selling crystal when you dropped a thousand dollars on just the pills
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I remember reading a thread where some guy synthesized lsd with these pills in a college lab. He said he was just doing it for his own use. Maybe someone can find the link.
Anyways, yes it does seem like you could make a small batch of Lsd using those pills. Yes, you'd still have to get a bunch of other chemicals, and a lab, and know how to do it, but it's possible.
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: searching]
#23819541 - 11/10/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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BANANA.MAN said: Yes it is.
Maybe if youre selling individual sheets. Good luck selling crystal when you dropped a thousand dollars on just the pills
i simply said it is because it is. ergotamine is the precurser of LSD i answered his question honestly. what you want me to lie to him about what it is because he cant synthesize enough LSD to sell large amount of crystal? why would i do that?
i see you chose not to quote my second post. the part where i said you would only get a few mg which would be partially lost.
what you just felt like telling someone who is saying the SAME thing as you that they are wrong? because i never said you could sell crystal. or even sheets.
infact i never mentioned selling except to say that one couldnt pay for their lab selling that amount. so basically the ONLY part where i even mention selling is where i am in agreement with you.
ALL i said was that it is in fact lysergic acid in that medication. any other response would have been a straight up lie. why would i spread misinformation on purpose?
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: Niffla]
#23819598 - 11/10/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Niffla said: toothpaste, orange peel, boom LSD-25
am I right or am I right
Pressure cooker, rye, and a sack of potatoes
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23819603 - 11/10/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I thought you meant "it is" as in "its worth it". I was simply arguing that financially, its really not. But thats subjective.
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ALL i said was that it is in fact lysergic acid in that medication. any other response would have been a straight up lie. why would i spread misinformation on purpose?
Lysergic acid and ergotamine are completely different things.
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wait you are right i fucked that up.
but no the "yes" was answering the question in the OP
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Re: Is this the precursor to LSD? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23820329 - 11/10/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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searching said: I remember reading a thread where some guy synthesized lsd with these pills in a college lab. He said he was just doing it for his own use. Maybe someone can find the link.
Anyways, yes it does seem like you could make a small batch of Lsd using those pills. Yes, you'd still have to get a bunch of other chemicals, and a lab, and know how to do it, but it's possible.
Ergotamine tartrate is the primary precursor for LSD production, yes.
However, I think the main problem with trying to synthesize LSD using pills like this are the overhead cost of the laboratory to make it in, the additional watched chemicals required to make it, and the difficulty in finding somebody educated enough to make the LSD from the pills. 
The "guy" you're referring to on here who made his own LSD from these pills used Cafergot pills, the U.S. equivalent of this medication, but it has to be prescribed by a listened physician for migrane headaches in patients resistant to other treatments.
He's got a page on reddit about it called r/Hoffmannwouldbeproud, and he said he works in a lab and made it during his downtime when there was nobody in the lab. He said he was only able to make like 15mg or so of LSD, (about a sheet and a half,) because the pills are hard to come by and he could only borrow so much of the watched precursors from the lab supply at his workplace.
What he did is honestly the only way I can think of that would be a feasible method of domestic small-scale LSD production, but you have to have the lab, the chemicals, and the know-how.
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i had no idea they sold this precursor!
Now u can make lysergic acid from it then LSD, with the right chemicals of course.
Hunting down the other chemicals is going to be tough man, but it might be possibly. Gunna cost a ton of money, but imagine, homemade acid....
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