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Boogieman47
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Trich riding on multiple transfers possible?
#23818063 - 11/10/16 12:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok so ive tossed a few of my mazzie #3 clones some jars get mold others dont i have several plates of the same but different strains ... what i really wanna know is being that trich basically entwines itself to the myc can it just keep being transferred without showing itself in the agar? Id say im 15+ transfers on all the plates... im going back to square one and transferring the "transparent" myc before it really gets going to make sure its clean but i dont wanna keep wasting time on something thats not worth it
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The Mycologist
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23818100 - 11/10/16 12:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: The Mycologist]
#23818196 - 11/10/16 01:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Have you tried an agar sandwitch?
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: van hatton]
#23818291 - 11/10/16 03:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes even more species other than trich can ride and hide in your myc.
Theres some thread out there showing bacterial growth in petris
But if your really having problems Ive read this was good Quote:
van hatton said: Have you tried an agar sandwitch?
When you pour more agar onto a existing plate and only myc will grow through it.
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Boogieman47
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: spore-ty]
#23818979 - 11/10/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know they can ride along piggy bqck whatever but 15 transfers worth? A sandwich wouldnt work if the shit is entangled in the myc i dont believe
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23819003 - 11/10/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Show some pics of plates. Trich and myc are very different and should be distinguished fairly easily
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23819010 - 11/10/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't see any contaminant riding very far down the line, if you are truly doing your due diligence with being clean. It can ride, but you're only going to have problems if your contamination is consistently sporulating and blasting spores all over your plates, and you are transferring that.
As long as you transfer clean growth a couple times, it really should be fine. Even when mold is clearly sporulating in the dish, you can transfer away successfully as long as you don't knock around the plate too much.
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Boogieman47
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: Mad Season]
#23819032 - 11/10/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alright they are pasty plates ill take some in a few.. but thats what im asking is it possible for the trich to be like a ninja just keep being transferred without sporulating or being noticed?? I can tell between myc and trich mold i just dont get why some mazzies are molding up and others are not... ya thats what i figured i nean i know its a noob question but like i said i just cant figure out how its getting in ive never had mold issues this bad since i built my hood ... im going to get sfds and try to see if that helps
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23819070 - 11/10/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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My honest opinion is no, noob. Find a clean sector, and try your best to get it away from the contam unhindered and into another plate. It should be fine, and if it isn't, it might be better than the situation it's in now. Just transfer it again. As long as the situation in the culture keeps improving as you transfer, that's all you can ask for.
The moment it keeps not improving, trash the culture and start over. Figure out what you're doing wrong and fix it. Then try.
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Boogieman47
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: Mushierage]
#23819085 - 11/10/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ya thats what im doing now i have been taking the myc whens its still not white and changing filters and all that ... i may even just get some ms plates going again now that its cooled down
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23819092 - 11/10/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trich is very easy to take along its a parasite of cubensis and feeds of the cube mycelium. So it's not growing alongside the cubensis it's growing on the cubensis.

Hence why it gets in spawn so easy. Hence why people think their spawn is clean but get trich before the first flush.
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23819101 - 11/10/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thats what i mean .. if taking the myc while its still not fully grown or a sandwich or something is it still possble if it was a bad infestation ? I mean i guess with out a microscope its impossible to answer really
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23819108 - 11/10/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sometimes you just have to get clean mycelium rather than try to clean it up. If it's trich imbedded then you might be fighting a battle that isn't worth it at all.
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23819115 - 11/10/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well and thats what is shitty is this clone was a crazy pinning mofo and as i said i have so many different plates of it id have to toss them all haha fuck it i need a microscope just for these reasons
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23819130 - 11/10/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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How do you scope it without compromising the sterility of your plates. You can do it after the fact. You could try to do a small grow or get plate pins. Then clone to get clean mycelium again
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23819201 - 11/10/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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After i transfer i could scope it on the old plate if its crawling with shit then i know which is bad ... but these are already clones if i took a pin wouldnt that be a clone of a clone?
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23819234 - 11/10/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Clones of clones are only taboo to noobs repeating things they heard TCs and RR say.
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Boogieman47
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23819529 - 11/10/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ya thats why i stayed away from doing it i mean im sure after so many clones it will fuck up but not after a couple ... ill let those plates pin up again and start a new thanks bodhi
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23819796 - 11/10/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why don't you just start back from spore? All new growth. Slant that myc before you fruit it then clone it and slant it again.
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Boogieman47
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: PirateSwazey]
#23819803 - 11/10/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am making new ms plates tonight i was just hoping to save it due to it pinning so nicely but mazzies are pretty great producers
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23819830 - 11/10/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's good. I've been there holding onto a clone that had trich intertwined because it was a good producer. Sucks to feel like you keep wasting time running the mycelium, which is why you should make slants that you can go back to when you run into these kind of problems! I think someone above already said it but you could try letting a plate pin & clone that. Best thing is to slant in future mang
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Re: Trich riding on multiple transfers possible? [Re: PirateSwazey]
#23819835 - 11/10/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ya the slants i boight said they were pp5 and were not and just havent rememberedto buy new ones ill go check out some today where do you buy em man ?
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