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InvisibleTheMadHatter420
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Inocuole]
    #23817579 - 11/09/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The still air room is extra protection from slight air currents, like those that can come in around a window. Its just extra protection. Some of us may use a closet, some will use plastic sheeting. Years ago I had 36 quarts that needed knocked up. I used just a still air room to do it, basically was a plastic sheet tent 2 ft by 2 ft. Which I DO NOT recommend as a proper tek, but I did it. Just moved really slow and precise.


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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23817936 - 11/09/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What about a negative air box?


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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23817940 - 11/09/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How did you even have room to work man?  My goodness that's tight quarters lol, jars are like 4" across.  That makes exactly 2x2 space.  That's renegade stuff there :-)
I'm just playin, but I'd loved to have seen that super ghetto rig.  Why not do half and half man?
OP....
One of THE BIGGEST errors you can make is to attempt to customize these proven teks untill you have all of the teks you need, all available here, time and result tested.
I speak from experience, I tried many deviations from tek and failed miserably.  The TCs here known
WTF they are doing, and it's best to just swallow your pride and follow damned instructions.
The best advice you can get for amazing flushes is to follow the tek to every detail.
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Inocuole] * 1
    #23818198 - 11/10/16 01:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You got the help of a guy who claims he has a government grant to grow psychedelic mushrooms but he doesn't know shit from shit.  :shrug:

This is the only box you need:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771

The second you're putting stuff like CPU fans into the equation, you're becoming more fascinated with the idea of a fancy box than you are interested in the science of doing clean work.  If you are new to growing or doing sterile work then I would advise starting with what works before trying anything else.  Your findings will ultimately be meaningless until you have repeatable success to compare them with.




I love how Tump speaks some terrible advice...leaves...and never comes back...

It's like he knows that he isn't gonna get away with throwing his diarrhea everywhere-so he just leaves the thread and then hits up another.

It's remarkable :shrug:


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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: morty422] * 1
    #23818219 - 11/10/16 02:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I love how i help people by giving them information on what they want to know. Then because im the one that posted it you talk shit like you can't deal with the information provided. People have been growing mushrooms and posting there success with the rest of us since this sites been up. There are lots of ways to skin a cat , yes still air box works great as said earlier. But so does this 9er box. His question was about a positive air glove box, so i found him the info. You all wise you could ban me for not even breaking the rules. Your all breaking the 5th rule about flaming.


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InvisibleTheMadHatter420
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23818717 - 11/10/16 08:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It was approximately 2 x 2. I took some wide plastic sheeting. Rolled it up cone style. Tied top of cone closed and used that same twine to hang it from a hook, so it got bigger farther down. Sprayed the shit out of it with disinfectant and let settle for a bit. Put on fresh clean cloths and then gave them a light spray. Stepped in through the "slit" made by the plastic over lapping. Heated and wiped done syringe with alcohol every time. About all I moved was my arms. Had an old bandana around my mouth so my breathing wouldn't kick anything up. I did loose 2 or 3 jar. This was done as my sab was small. Had previously been using pints. Didn't think thing through to well when I jumped to jars. So I made a ghetto rig and it worked. Hey back in those days all I had was a book. No shroomery, and didn't know anyone who had grown. Had trial and error as a teacher.


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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23818731 - 11/10/16 08:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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It was approximately 2 x 2. I took some wide plastic sheeting. Rolled it up cone style. Tied top of cone closed and used that same twine to hang it from a hook, so it got bigger farther down. Sprayed the shit out of it with disinfectant and let settle for a bit. Put on fresh clean cloths and then gave them a light spray. Stepped in through the "slit" made by the plastic over lapping. Heated and wiped done syringe with alcohol every time. About all I moved was my arms. Had an old bandana around my mouth so my breathing wouldn't kick anything up. I did loose 2 or 3 jar. This was done as my sab was small. Had previously been using pints. Didn't think thing through to well when I jumped to jars. So I made a ghetto rig and it worked. Hey back in those days all I had was a book. No shroomery, and didn't know anyone who had grown. Had trial and error as a teacher.



Ohhhhhh now I have a better picture lol.  I was picturing a plastic tent as a SAB, and quarts being 4" across, give or take.... that's exactly 24".
That makes sense now :-)
Have a great day man
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: tump] * 2
    #23818752 - 11/10/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I love how i help people by giving them information on what they want to know. Then because im the one that posted it you talk shit like you can't deal with the information provided. People have been growing mushrooms and posting there success with the rest of us since this sites been up. There are lots of ways to skin a cat , yes still air box works great as said earlier. But so does this 9er box. His question was about a positive air glove box, so i found him the info. You all wise you could ban me for not even breaking the rules. Your all breaking the 5th rule about flaming.



Damn there's way too much :facepalm: in this post for me, so I'm going to keep my comment light and put in no effort this retardia

You have the proof this 9er box works "about the same as a sab" or are you just going to keep talking out of your ass? This is like saying to someone who wants to listen to music to go buy a cassette player instead of downloading your music and putting it on your phone, I mean people back then listened to music... Why do something way outdated when you can help someone succeed with way less work, effort, money and has been proven to succeed millions of times technology.


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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Mad Season]
    #23818845 - 11/10/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Pro tip: for a STILL AIR box to work properly dont install anything that blows air through your box, nor HEPAs etc that blows air around in your room.
TEK says to close windows and turn off A/Cs. follow the TEK.

If you (tump) wanna know why a GB is way worse than a SAB, use the fuckin search engine :thumbup:


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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: spacechildo]
    #23819094 - 11/10/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What is wrong with a HEPA scrubbing air in the room and then being turned OFF before using the SAB? I have seen many people and teks say that it is ok to use a good HEPA in your room to help keep spores out of the air. You will NEVER get them all but it can not hurt to remove some. LIKE I SAID THOUGH IT HAS TO BE OFF WHEN WORKING!


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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23819128 - 11/10/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

well if you turn it off in good time before working it wont hurt, but it doesnt help either so its basically a waste of time and energy.


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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: TheMadHatter420] * 1
    #23819150 - 11/10/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yea 9 years ago i build that box and it worked great. But hey i dont have pictures form back then and even if i did have pictures you just say i edited it. So no matter what you guy bicth. Still air boxs are cheap and easy thats why you all like them. But that again is not what op asked. Its because im saying anything you all are hateful. If you a noob said he was shooting spores directly to a grain jar you would give them shit for it. But when a TC says it you let it slide.


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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: tump]
    #23819166 - 11/10/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I like SABs over GBs because they're way better for our use in this hobby.
it has nothing to do with age, who posted it or how terrible you are at taking pics.

I've never claimed you were able to photoshop anything tump. I simply said you're weighing down your mushroom on the scale, and that's why your pic only shows half a shroom.

If OP asks about how to make a poor idea feaseable, I'd rather show him how to make a better choice.


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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: tump]
    #23819195 - 11/10/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:no:


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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Mushierage] * 1
    #23819206 - 11/10/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: tump] * 1
    #23820108 - 11/10/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yea 9 years ago i build that box and it worked great. But hey i dont have pictures form back then and even if i did have pictures you just say i edited it. So no matter what you guy bicth.



Yeah what space said, but I honestly don't care about that. I care about shit info spread.

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Still air boxs are cheap and easy thats why you all like them. But that again is not what op asked. Its because im saying anything you all are hateful.



I'm going to quote myself from the last time we talked about airflow inside of a box..
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I already understood.. but you have to account for the contams inside the box, how would you make everything inside sterile? With the vacuum going, you're mixing air all around inside there. A flowhood at least you're working right in front of a filter that supposedly had it running for 1 hour prior. A still air box works because there's no air flow moving contams everywhere, so it doesn't need to be sterile inside. With this hybrid thing, it just seems like way more work than necessary.



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No offense to anyone who thinks any air flow in a box you can't sterilize would be a decent idea, you're dumb. I'd rather have the inferior regular glove box over any hybrid shit



I hope you actually understand why still air is the only way you can do shit inside of a box you can't sterilize. In this case it is about pushing air in, but the same shit still applies.

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If you a noob said he was shooting spores directly to a grain jar you would give them shit for it. But when a TC says it you let it slide.



You clearly don't know me.. I've had a shit ton of conversations with TC's over good and bad info..


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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Mad Season] * 1
    #23820558 - 11/10/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

tump.. just fucking leave.  Look at your ratings.  You are not wanted here.  If you're going to stay, just read, don't post.


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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Inocuole] * 1
    #23820593 - 11/10/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

please dont make him leave! the world is so cold, hard and sad, I need my tump entertainment. he brings a smile to my face on a daily basis! you just never know what he's gonna say next.


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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: spacechildo]
    #23820613 - 11/10/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You mean, you never know what stupid shit you might have to clean up after next?  Tell me about it.


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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Inocuole] * 1
    #23820640 - 11/10/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

newbs need to learn to pay attention to detail anyway, they gotta be able to spot his 1 shroom rating.

My entertainment > newbs inattentiveness :hehehe:


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