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Yegab
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Positive air glove box idea
#23817103 - 11/09/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Today I was taking a respirator course. They listed a bunch of different filters available. The p100 filtered 99.97% of organic materials. This is what gave me the idea of the positive air glove box. I did a search and some people used little CPU fans that looked pretty weak. I thought if I used a shop vac with a heppa filter as the pre filter and put the hose on the blow function attaching the hose to one of these p100 filters I would theoretically have clean air pumping out of my arm holes in the box. Let me know if anyone has tried anything similar. Here is a link to the p100 filters for 8 bucks a pair http://www.sylprotec.com/en/north-respirators/3407-north-p100-filter-for-half-full-facepiece-respirators-series-5400-75600-and-7700-niosh-csa-z944-approved-2-units.html?gclid=CJyhq4WAndACFZSFaQodDAwIDw
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Inocuole
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Yegab]
#23817132 - 11/09/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm sure you could've done a search and foreseen what kind of reaction this post would get you.
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Yegab
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Inocuole]
#23817173 - 11/09/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I did do a search like I said. Nothing else had powerful a powerful enough turbine to move the air. The shop vac came to mind due to its high volume low pressure and the addition that it uses a filter itself.
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Yegab]
#23817181 - 11/09/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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there was literally a post this week talking about using a shop vac
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Yegab
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Yegab]
#23817195 - 11/09/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok my bad that never showed in my searches.
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tump
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Munchauzen]
#23817227 - 11/09/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/8433/The-9er-Tek this box is the best thing in the concept. No one uses it but the design works about the same success as a still air box
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Yegab
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: tump]
#23817251 - 11/09/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks tump for taking the time to help!
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Yegab] 2
#23817264 - 11/09/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You got the help of a guy who claims he has a government grant to grow psychedelic mushrooms but he doesn't know shit from shit. 
This is the only box you need:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771
The second you're putting stuff like CPU fans into the equation, you're becoming more fascinated with the idea of a fancy box than you are interested in the science of doing clean work. If you are new to growing or doing sterile work then I would advise starting with what works before trying anything else. Your findings will ultimately be meaningless until you have repeatable success to compare them with.
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WeavieWonder
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Yegab]
#23817266 - 11/09/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Experimenting and trying new things is one of the fun things about mushroom cultivation, but SAB design shouldn't be one of them. Two arm holes in a plastic box....it's stupid simple I know. That is one of the reasons why it's so effective. It has one job of providing a still air environment, and it does that job pretty well. I put a leveling bubble on the bottom of my SAB for pouring level agar dishes (got my arm holes on the lid side), and that's about as modded as I got. That and a rainbow sticker on it too.
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: tump]
#23817288 - 11/09/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
tump said: https://www.shroomery.org/8433/The-9er-Tek this box is the best thing in the concept. No one uses it but the design works about the same success as a still air box
Do you have proof it works about the same as a still air box? Fuckin annoying how often you provide false, half thought out info
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Inocuole
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Mad Season]
#23817302 - 11/09/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Seriously, I sometimes wish it were bannable. I realize the slippery slope that would follow, so I'm glad it's not. But why can't you just like, not say unsubstantiated shit?
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Inocuole]
#23817311 - 11/09/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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He gets another albino for that shit. Another noob set up for failure...
OP, just use a SAB. It's a box with two holes and that's it. This isn't rocket science.
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Greg]
#23817318 - 11/09/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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SAB for the win op.
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Yegab
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Kenetic]
#23817383 - 11/09/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks guys I do use my still air box. It really is as simple as it gets I just worry too much I guess. I used 4" plumbing fittings on mine for the arm holes so I can cap them when I am waiting for the alchohol to do it's thing. Your probably right about keeping it simple. Thanks for the positive replies.[
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Yegab] 1
#23817395 - 11/09/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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4 inches sounds pretty small o.0 I recommend minimum 6 in my tek, and tbh that's even too small for my liking. The bigger the arm holes the less piston effect.
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Yegab
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Mad Season]
#23817420 - 11/09/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah it is abit too small maybe I will refit some 6" holes.
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Inocuole
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Yegab] 1
#23817429 - 11/09/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That'll probably help more than any other modifications other than a bigger box.
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AllDay420
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: Greg] 1
#23817435 - 11/09/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Greg said: He gets another albino for that shit.
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Re: Positive air glove box idea [Re: AllDay420]
#23817488 - 11/09/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The only mod that can make a differance is putting a good HEPA room air purifyier in the room you use your SAB in. Well ok maybe using your SAB in a small still air room filtered by that HEPA filter. That's right, you can use plastic to build a "tent" or room around your SAB work area to reduce air currents even more. HEPA air filter MUST be turned OFF prior to SAB use so not to create air currents and defeat the still air purpose.
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Inocuole
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And how does that make a difference? If the air is still it's still.
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