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Re: Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: Webster10]
    #23819199 - 11/10/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

koods quite often does.


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Re: Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: Webster10]
    #23819220 - 11/10/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Trump won the popular vote, Koods is peddling bullshit :burke:




Did you even look at the numbers?

Popular votes for...

Trump: 47%
59,704,886

Clinton: 48%
59,938,290


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Re: Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: Crystal G]
    #23819233 - 11/10/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
Popular votes for...

Trump: 47%
59,704,886

Clinton: 48%
59,938,290




Popular votes count for nothing, which is as it should be in a Republic.


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Re: Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: Crystal G]
    #23819248 - 11/10/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Don't even waste your time. They're not here to actually debate or discuss. They're here to frustrate and troll.


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Re: Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: koods] * 2
    #23819249 - 11/10/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

We're here to point out just how ignorant you are about the US.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: koods] * 1
    #23819250 - 11/10/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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the democrats got more total votes in the senate races  and more total votes in the house races




So? Who gives a shit if a Democrat in California got 20,000 votes and won, and a Republican in North Dakota got 12,000 votes and won? They are seperate elections, and regional representatives. What a silly argument to make.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: greencrush420] * 1
    #23819255 - 11/10/16 10:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You'll find many of his arguments are silly and based strictly on partisanship.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23819295 - 11/10/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Watching koods and the rest of the libs melt over Trump is hysterical.  This is some classic shit.  I wish the pube were always this amusing.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23819299 - 11/10/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Watching them display their ignorance is even better.


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Re: Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: koods]
    #23819312 - 11/10/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
Quote:

Webster10 said:
Trump won the popular vote, Koods is peddling bullshit :burke:




Did you even look at the numbers?

Popular votes for...

Trump: 47%
59,704,886

Clinton: 48%
59,938,290





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Don't even waste your time. They're not here to actually debate or discuss. They're here to frustrate and troll.





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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23819318 - 11/10/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Trump 48% 59,611,678

Hillary Clinton Democratic Party 47% 59,814,018




something us surely wrong with the math or a lower number is a higher percentage


and for your information, the popular vote has never elected a president




haha i missed that. the percents are backwords.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23819367 - 11/10/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Watching them display their ignorance is even better.




Disagreed.  When they're on full ignorance display, you can guarantee they feel like they just created an unimpeachable work of art right before they hit the Continue button to make a post.  So proud.
On the other hand, watching them melt, you know they have no pride in it and they're just sour as fuck 'cause Trump and his supporters are living rent free up in their heads 24/7.  The irony is that their own party let them down in the end.  Now THAT shit is hilarious.
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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23819380 - 11/10/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'll stick with 'Watching them display their ignorance is even better', though I don't disagree with your take on it.


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Re: Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23819381 - 11/10/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The effect of the electoral college is a candidate can't belittle and demean half the country and still win

***hillary proved this


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Re: Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: Webster10]
    #23819778 - 11/10/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Webster10 said:


Quote:

koods said:
Don't even waste your time. They're not here to actually debate or discuss. They're here to frustrate and troll.








Bruh. It literally says right underneath the popular vote section, that Trump had 47.5% at 59,704,882 while Hillary had 47.7% at 59.938,284.

Are you even looking at anything you post.


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Re: Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23821731 - 11/11/16 01:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Crystal G said:
Popular votes for...

Trump: 47%
59,704,886

Clinton: 48%
59,938,290




Popular votes count for nothing, which is as it should be in a Republic.



"Standard civics-class accounts of the Electoral College rarely mention the real demon dooming direct national election in 1787 and 1803: slavery.

At the Philadelphia convention, the visionary Pennsylvanian James Wilson proposed direct national election of the president. But the savvy Virginian James Madison responded that such a system would prove unacceptable to the South: “The right of suffrage was much more diffusive [i.e., extensive] in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of Negroes.” In other words, in a direct election system, the North would outnumber the South, whose many slaves (more than half a million in all) of course could not vote. But the Electoral College—a prototype of which Madison proposed in this same speech—instead let each southern state count its slaves, albeit with a two-fifths discount, in computing its share of the overall count.

Virginia emerged as the big winner—the California of the Founding era—with 12 out of a total of 91 electoral votes allocated by the Philadelphia Constitution, more than a quarter of the 46 needed to win an election in the first round. After the 1800 census, Wilson’s free state of Pennsylvania had 10% more free persons than Virginia, but got 20% fewer electoral votes. Perversely, the more slaves Virginia (or any other slave state) bought or bred, the more electoral votes it would receive. Were a slave state to free any blacks who then moved North, the state could actually lose electoral votes.

If the system’s pro-slavery tilt was not overwhelmingly obvious when the Constitution was ratified, it quickly became so. For 32 of the Constitution’s first 36 years, a white slaveholding Virginian occupied the presidency.
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Full article: http://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/


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Re: Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: koods]
    #23821821 - 11/11/16 03:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I think Trump owes Putin and Comey one hell of a blow job for rigging the election. This was the worst case of rigging an election that has ever happened. The sad thing was that it happened right in front of every ones  eyes and no one seemed to care.
Just try to imagine what might have come out had Putin had a bone up his ass about Trump or other republicans? Or if the FBI witch hunt focused on Trump or any number of slanted republicans?

Maybe next time....just remember Trump people...you reap what you sew and What comes around goes around. It won't take long for Trumps empty promises to begin to show signs of the  reality that he is out of his league. He won the election by being a showman....all he knows how to be, and with the help of Russia and the FBI. Sometimes it is amazing how fast your one time buddies in politics turn into your most dreaded enemies.

The people of this country should be collectively embarrassed. I'm effectively done commenting on this shit show...the future, I fear, will take care of itself.



I'm confused what Comey and the FBI have anything to do with rigging the election? I would greatly appreciate if you could elaborate on this. I personally feel like any "rigging" done in this election happened when the DNC fucked bernie out of the nomination (who I think would have beaten Trump)


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everyone votes should count and count equally




But wouldn't this be a "mob rule" scenario? I'm not sure if this post is meant to support a full democracy or not. But Could you explain why it isn't reasonable that using this method doesn't actually "even the score"? Trump came out ahead on popular vote, except in one state where he came out massively behind. If that was the deciding factor, I feel like this isn't a very good representation of the country (being a republic of sovereign states) just because he lost the vote in very specific high population areas. Why exactly should California decide the results of the election, or even Texas if the roles were reversed? Midwestern states have an entirely different reality than say, San Fransisco. So why would it be fair for the prevailing candidate be elected every time to suit the needs for this specific high population area? Wouldn't that seriously neglect the needs of rural, Midwestern states and stack the process for the high population area?

Also, do you have any suggestions on how to "even the score" for the process? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt you think a true democracy would be the ideal solution.

It is far from a perfect system but much more preferable than a true democracy imo. I do however, think the electoral college should stray away from this winner take all system, and electoral college be divided proportionally by the split number of votes. I think this could give both sides a more equal outcome.

I feel as though the electoral college worked best at a time where individual states had all of their own power and the federal government wasn't able to supersede this power. If Federal gov didn't have total control over the states, it wouldn't much matter nearly as much who the elected president is because states like california and iowa could decide their own policies with their best interest in mind.That to me would be ideal (under our current system)

I'm genuinely not trying to argue with you, this the first election I've participated in, due to me being very young.  trying to learn more about the system. Also,I apologize if anything I'm saying?asking doesn't make sense, I'm pretty inebriated atm.


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Re: Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: volcomstoner]
    #23822431 - 11/11/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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But wouldn't this be a "mob rule" scenario? I'm not sure if this post is meant to support a full democracy or not. But Could you explain why it isn't reasonable that using this method doesn't actually "even the score"? Trump came out ahead on popular vote, except in one state where he came out massively behind. If that was the deciding factor, I feel like this isn't a very good representation of the country (being a republic of sovereign states) just because he lost the vote in very specific high population areas. Why exactly should California decide the results of the election, or even Texas if the roles were reversed?




Democracy is mob rule?

Why are you even thinking about this as states get to choose the president? We don't elect the president to represent states. He represents the people of the entire country. The senate is where the people of a state get to elect the person who represents their state. Even the house of representatives is skewed toward small states where a state like California gets one representative per 700,000 people and smaller states get one per a half million.

Why does an individual in Montana have four times as much influence as an individual in California. Why does it matter where they live? Everyone should have an equal say. (And since in the aggregate, small states are more conservative and large states are more liberal, why do republicans votes count more than democratic ones?)

Clinton got 400,000 more votes than Trump. Please explain how by the mere fact that these voters were in high population states, their votes shouldn't count.

We have a situation in this country where democratic candidates get more votes in the senate races more votes in house races, and more votes for the president and get nothing to show for it. This is not mob rule. It is tyranny of the minority.


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Re: Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: koods] * 5
    #23822485 - 11/11/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Waahhhhhhh!

Electoral college is the only fair system.

The one you advocate would be a big 'fuck you' to vast swaths of America. Of course, that's the idea, isn't it koodsie? Your side didn't win by the rules so change them so that it always will.

Even if you were correct in your erroneous summation of what the presidential vote should be like, you're woefully incompetent in suggesting that the Senators/Representatives, who are elected to represent the states, should be proportionally seated according to the nationwide vote. That suggestion is beyond moronic.

This is a union of states and the system was set up to represent, fairly, that union.

Either your teachers failed you or you failed yourself. Your side lost. Stop whining like a little child.


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Re: Clinton Won The Popular Vote By 202,340 Votes [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23822492 - 11/11/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Electoral college is the only fair system.




Only fair system? Says who?


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