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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: koods]
    #23859918 - 11/23/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

hahaha... Trump Won, deal with it


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23859963 - 11/23/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If trump loses the election because of the electoral college it might finally get abolished. Unfortunately i dont see it happening since over 20 electors would have to switch


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: koods] * 2
    #23859980 - 11/23/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Three more weeks for electors to watch Trump botch the transition and not give a shit about his conflicts of interest. Six now. 30 to go. (Assuming he wins michigan, and his lead is dwindling there)



You're setting yourself up for another meltdown if the electoral college votes in Trump.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23859982 - 11/23/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't care if Clinton wins if we could get rid of the EC. Of course, if the electors overturned Trumps win, then the EC would be gone by the next election.

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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: Herbologist]
    #23859986 - 11/23/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Desperation.




Which will make the tears from his subsequent meltdown all the sweeter.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23859988 - 11/23/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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koods said:
Three more weeks for electors to watch Trump botch the transition and not give a shit about his conflicts of interest. Six now. 30 to go. (Assuming he wins michigan, and his lead is dwindling there)



You're setting yourself up for another meltdown if the electoral college votes in Trump.




Of course that's almost the certain outcome, but the effort should be made. There is a chance.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: koods]
    #23859991 - 11/23/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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There is a chance.




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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: koods]
    #23860003 - 11/23/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't care if Clinton wins if we could get rid of the EC. Of course, if the electors overturned Trumps win, then the EC would be gone by the next election.

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If that happens, the electoral college won't be abolished it will be amended to bind electors to their states' voters. Why would the republicans bite the hand that feeds them by abolishing it?


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: ohcrapitsnico] * 1
    #23860045 - 11/23/16 09:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Its interesting with the American system that if you were to swap the votes around between the states, the same number of people would have voted of A or B but the outcome would be completely different because a single vote carris much more weight in one state than in another.

That was never the intent of democracy, that some votes count more than others depending on where the ballot box stands.



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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23860047 - 11/23/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You're probably right. The demographics of the country will progressively make it harder for them to hold onto power without electoral affirmative action programs like the EC.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: Asante]
    #23860056 - 11/23/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Its interesting with the American system that if you were to swap the votes around between the states, the same number of people would have voted of A or B but the outcome would be completely different because a single vote carris much more weight in one state than in another.

That was never the intent of democracy, that some votes count more than others depending on where the ballot box stands.






But Asante, there are more democratic voters  in the US than republican voters and without the EC democrats would win every time. That's not fair to the republicans.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23860072 - 11/23/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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koods said:
Three more weeks for electors to watch Trump botch the transition and not give a shit about his conflicts of interest. Six now. 30 to go. (Assuming he wins michigan, and his lead is dwindling there)



You're setting yourself up for another meltdown if the electoral college votes in Trump.





what the fuck have you done with nico?


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: Asante] * 2
    #23860083 - 11/23/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Asante said:
Its interesting with the American system that if you were to swap the votes around between the states, the same number of people would have voted of A or B but the outcome would be completely different because a single vote carris much more weight in one state than in another.

That was never the intent of democracy, that some votes count more than others depending on where the ballot box stands.







it's a lovely graphic but it's inaccurate as fuck, trump won the majority of the
states which is why he won the election, do you believe that everone else's vote
should be silenced because a few hundred heavily populated counties make up the
majority of the US? that is the very reason for the electoral college


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23860092 - 11/23/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Do you think the voice of the majority should be silenced simply because they live in a state with a large population?

Nobody's voice is silenced if the election is determined by the popular vote as is every other elected office and ballot measure in the country. Everyone gets one vote and nobody's vote is weighted more or less than anyone elses.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23860099 - 11/23/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

Asante said:
Its interesting with the American system that if you were to swap the votes around between the states, the same number of people would have voted of A or B but the outcome would be completely different because a single vote carris much more weight in one state than in another.

That was never the intent of democracy, that some votes count more than others depending on where the ballot box stands.







it's a lovely graphic but it's inaccurate as fuck, trump won the majority of the
states which is why he won the election, do you believe that everone else's vote
should be silenced because a few hundred heavily populated counties make up the
majority of the US? that is the very reason for the electoral college




That is something they are unable to wrap their head around, unfortunately.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #23860101 - 11/23/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I believe in one voter, one vote. Imagine Shroomery polls were made so that if your vote was from the USA it would count as 1/3 of a vote from Holland because we have much more members from the USA than from Holland. So, to give Holland a fair chance we disadvantage all Americans, Canadians and Australians.

..fuck no Holland, nice try.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: Asante]
    #23860113 - 11/23/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I believe in one voter, one vote. Imagine Shroomery polls were made so that if your vote was from the USA it would count as 1/3 of a vote from Holland because we have much more members from the USA than from Holland. So, to give Holland a fair chance we disadvantage all Americans, Canadians and Australians.

..fuck no Holland, nice try.



You don't get it. There are more liberals in America than conservatives. If every vote were counted equally, the liberals would win and that's just not fair. How would the conservatives ever win anything?


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23860118 - 11/23/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Theoretically you can get a majority in the electoral college with just 22% of the popular vote. Its madness


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: Herbologist]
    #23860137 - 11/23/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Asante said:
Its interesting with the American system that if you were to swap the votes around between the states, the same number of people would have voted of A or B but the outcome would be completely different because a single vote carris much more weight in one state than in another.

That was never the intent of democracy, that some votes count more than others depending on where the ballot box stands.







it's a lovely graphic but it's inaccurate as fuck, trump won the majority of the
states which is why he won the election, do you believe that everone else's vote
should be silenced because a few hundred heavily populated counties make up the
majority of the US? that is the very reason for the electoral college




That is something they are unable to wrap their head around, unfortunately.




they also seem to be unable to grasp the concept that the states set the rules on
how the electors vote and that as soon as a president like bush wins the popular
vote because the states allowed for it, they'll be crying about how california's
voters were disenfranchised because the electoral vote would have elected kerry


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2 Million Votes [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23860139 - 11/23/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Theoretically you can get a majority in the electoral college with just 22% of the popular vote. Its madness





oh, do tell


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