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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: TNK]
    #23842975 - 11/17/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Lol? Than its irrelevant that however many illegals voted because their votes would never be in the count.




It's illegal to do a lot of things, does that mean people don't do them?

Think about it, it's really obvious




Lol, you don't get it.

Yeah someone can cast a vote but you know they cross check those things right? So who cares if three million somewhat illegal immigrants voted, their vote literally doesn't count.




No, you don't get it, sure a few may get tossed, but the majority don't.

The VAST majority of votes aren't scrutinized at all, that's an enormous task. Google the Florida recount, and that was just one state. If there's no recount, there is very little accountability

And if you still don't think anything illegal ever happens, well, you're way too ignorant to even be talking to :lol:


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: Patlal]
    #23842985 - 11/17/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Why is the popular notion that's granted among most historians involve the idea that a republic such as ours was originally way more efficient then a parliamentary system but through abuse of a "democracy" and care for the parliamentary system, our system is way less efficient then most other people's system of governance? Did I get that right?

Same system. Different rate of efficiency. People originally came here to escape Europe's government. What went wrong here and right there over 250 years course of time?

I kind of wanted to sway off the subject of right side vs left side for a minute




Right here

I cropped the post so just the last question is viewable. If you want to see the original post it's on page 20




US system:

1. An idea
2. Write the draft
3. Send to committee expert for modifications
4. Bill is proposed to a house representative
5. Bill is introduced
6. The House debates about it
7. House votes.
  - Bill denied, go back to 1 or 4
  - Bill passed, go to 8
8. Senate votes
  - Bill denied, go back to square 1 or 4
  - Bill passed, go to 9
9. President approves or vetos
10. You have a law

Parliamentary system (Canada):

Same thing with the exceptions of:

1. The House votes for the bill 3 times.
2. The Senate votes for the bill 3 times
3. The Prime Minister can't do anything about it
4. The Supreme Court can overturn any bill they deem unconstitutional


Alright. So you're thinking; why the hell do these guys waste hours of valuable time voting 6 times to pass one bill?

- Well that's a good question machavel. We do 3 readings of the bill in the house so that our elected official get more time to study every bill and fact check the bill (good old Imright.com). There is more time alloted for debate on the issue, therefore it gets more exposure to the public and Parliamentarians can gauge the public reactions. Many modifications are done on some bills.

Well what about these obviously beneficial bills or urgent bills?

- Another good question. You're on fire sir. They just vote it all in an hour, send it to Senate. They vote it all in an hour and there you go.

Supreme Court? Anti-constitutional? Overturn? What are all these words?

- If a bill  passed by Parliament is deemed unconstitutional, it'll be a "The Crown VS The People" case where "The Crown" is the equivalent of the Attorney General of the USA. So the Crown will represent the Congress in court VS We the people. "We the people" being the 9 judges of the Supreme Court.

- If a bill has already become law and someone gets arrested for a crime under that law and makes it through appeals to the Supreme Court, the Crown will defend the law in court and the dude will explain why the law is unconstitutional under the eyes of the 9 judges. If the judges decide that the law is in fact unconstitutional (awesome lawyer) they will overturn the law and give the Parliament a year to write a new bill to replace the old law that will accommodate the court's ruling on the matter. The ruling will now be federal law throughout the country.

Example: A brothel got busted in Ontario is 2010 or something. The madam of the brothel filled appeals everytime a Provincial judge said they lost. They eventually got to the Supreme Court and explained that prostitutes are safer in brothels than on the streets and it's a matter of safety for the prostitutes. The judges ruled in her favor. The morning after the a guy from BC read the paper and the headline said "Brothels now legal in Canada because of some woman in Ontario somewhere"... The court gave a year to parliament to come up with new prostitution laws.

This is long enough and you better give 5 shrooms for this dude




I gave you 5 shrooms awhile ago.

Thanks for breaking that down. I wonder why I get in these debates about the president. You think my knowledge of how a bill is passed is poor?

Most voters know less then I do. That's about 96% of the people who vote who really don't know what they are voting for.

It's almost like, who cares who won? The world is controlled by the wealthiest corporations anyway. Most people are just stupid. College graduates? Some are smart. Some are idiots.

I don't know at least I have local values as well. If my mayor doing cocaine I want him to share. I believe in equality.

Pass this bill: "thou shalt go fuck himself if he is a racist immoral piece of shit, regardless of how much money he used to spend on his election"

Veto that dammit


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: imachavel]
    #23842986 - 11/17/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The Salt of the Waters of the SJW's will Sublimate into Aeiry Precipitation, and Rain will fall down on the Earth, to inflame the Phoenix.






It's fucking scary, but its hardcore real right?

I'm saying that's real talk the Pheonix will rise out of the ashes and screw your day up.




damn skippidy whibbity.

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And if you still don't think anything illegal ever happens, well, you're way too ignorant to even be talking to




:computertrip: make sure big brother is watching everyone so that people just KNOW to vote Republic!


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23843010 - 11/17/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Alright so bottom line here. Can an illegal vote without having to show any piece of ID somewhere in America and if so, how the fuck is this possible?




If a person can go into a polling station and request the ballot of the Attorney General of the United States and offered that ballot, why can't an illegal walk in and claim to be someone else?



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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23843017 - 11/17/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I need to star building my road warrior vehicle. That company that makes those rally fighters is out here in chandler. I should just jack one of those. So sexy. I will run barter town. Tina Turners asshole is mine.



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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: TNK] * 1
    #23843024 - 11/17/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Why has no one pointed out that unregistered voters votes are tossed out and wouldn't be in the end tally anyways?




Because it's not so. There is no identifying information on a ballot that would allow officials to know who cast it.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: Mescalean]
    #23843036 - 11/17/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I need to star building my road warrior vehicle. That company that makes those rally fighters is out here in chandler. I should just jack one of those. So sexy. I will run barter town. Tina Turners asshole is mine.






God damn, I knew this thread would turn around.

That just made my day. Also, Koods in the front seat with me would also make my day. Drain the swamp. Suggest that in parliament.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: koods] * 1
    #23843049 - 11/17/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I would support voter ID if the state made it easy and free to get an ID. What do you think?




Some do.

https://www.rockthevote.com/get-informed/elections/voter-id-requirements/state/

More should. Though voter ID should be required regardless.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23843062 - 11/17/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Alright so bottom line here. Can an illegal vote without having to show any piece of ID somewhere in America and if so, how the fuck is this possible?




If a person can go into a polling station and request the ballot of the Attorney General of the United States and offered that ballot, why can't an illegal walk in and claim to be someone else?






Ya I've never been id'ed to vote. But I'm also a white Caucasian male who speaks fluent English. Getting a new ss card is more of a pain in the ass than voting.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23843069 - 11/17/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Why has no one pointed out that unregistered voters votes are tossed out and wouldn't be in the end tally anyways?




Because it's not so. There is no identifying information on a ballot that would allow officials to know who cast it.




I guess I can't comment on it, all my ballot shit came in the mail with my legal name and mailing adress on it.

I have no idea how it works in person at the booths.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: TNK]
    #23843082 - 11/17/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Wait... what? Your ballot actually had your name on it? Or was it the envelope?


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23843096 - 11/17/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Fuck man, maybe it didn't.

I could've sworn it did, regardless I dropped off the ballot in the official envelope so it had my name on it regardless.

I could've sworn it was on the bottom right with all the mailing information. I could be wrong though.

How the Fuck do they know who's voting If they don't have identification marks on it, that's horse shit.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23843109 - 11/17/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I can find no info anywhere that says your name is on an absentee ballot. It would be outrageous if it was.

The only places I could find a requirement for your name is when you request the ballot and again, on the official envelope you use to mail it in. The signature name is on the envelope in the section where you swear that it's actually you mailing it in.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: TNK]
    #23843117 - 11/17/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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How the Fuck do they know who's voting If they don't have identification marks on it, that's horse shit.




The whole point of anonymous voting is that no-one knows how you vote. Your name on the ballot would be at odds with that.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: TNK]
    #23843131 - 11/17/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Okay, I did some research and I know for a fact I signed my ballot.

Apparently they cross reference them with other signatures? Doesn't make a whol lot of sense to me but I am fairly certain my name was on the ballot. I think.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: TNK]
    #23843134 - 11/17/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What the Fuck, I know I singed it.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: TNK]
    #23843151 - 11/17/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

social stability ... or financial growth....

there is no end game, just a constant tug-of-war of ideals; but the striving for individual rights and freedoms and liberty, is always, in one way or another, on the line.

when one says "the growth of our wealth helps everyone", the other says "but not here, and not here, not here, and not us".

one one says "the social inequality and hostility and alienation is too great", the other says "but not here, and not here, and not here, and not us".


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: TNK]
    #23843158 - 11/17/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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This whole thing stinks to high heaven




It seldom doesn't.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: Great Scott]
    #23843161 - 11/17/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Okay, I did some research and I know for a fact I signed my ballot.




So share the research because frankly, I doubt you signed the ballot.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23843187 - 11/17/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You don't sign the ballot, only the envelope. I know this for a 100% fact.

I took pictures of my ballot and everything.


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