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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23842814 - 11/17/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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the means of production, broo, that's what changed...teh internet, n shi.




Gubment controls errything, brah

-***That utopic *^%#



let's let youtube control the media, sounds like a larf.




I thought they already did:shrug:

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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: TNK]
    #23842815 - 11/17/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Why has no one pointed out that unregistered voters votes are tossed out and wouldn't be in the end tally anyways?




Because it's so redundant it's rhetorical

.. talk that shiz


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: imachavel]
    #23842824 - 11/17/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Lol? Than its irrelevant that however many illegals voted because their votes would never be in the count.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23842827 - 11/17/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Why has no one pointed out that unregistered voters votes are tossed out and wouldn't be in the end tally anyways?



because there are alot of poingant things that can put the screw in these debates, but they aren't popular opinions; or, there are better things to talk about and people are distracted with stupid arguments that do not ever provide a complete picture, no matter how hard you try, because there are more important and better things to discuss and do, and we're not doing them.




Or perhaps it's because they can get tossed out,  but they don't

***all mush growers go to prison, right?

Cmon guys, at least use a LITTLE bit of logic :lol:


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: imachavel]
    #23842831 - 11/17/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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No way.

I saw this though:

"The presidential system is better for democracy than the parliamentary one because of its separation of powers, the role of the judiciary, and government accountability to its people. A presidential system is advantageous because of the relationship between the executive and the legislature."



Online. Koods couldn't answer it even though it's not directed at him so it doesn't matter(sorry, that was mistyped). Why is a parliamentary better? More so why was it at one time the most feared form of government? I don't want to go as far back as to the time of King Longshanks. Not sure if that was parliamentary or something else.

At there more checks and balances in a parliamentary system?

Many people in other threads have said only people in the US think life is better in the US. I've never been to a country with a parliamentary system so I couldn't tell you.



people have different occupations and different life experiences which infers to them different motives for their self-interests.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: TNK]
    #23842833 - 11/17/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Lol? Than its irrelevant that however many illegals voted because their votes would never be in the count.




It's illegal to do a lot of things, does that mean people don't do them?

Think about it, it's really obvious


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23842836 - 11/17/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Why has no one pointed out that unregistered voters votes are tossed out and wouldn't be in the end tally anyways?



because there are alot of poingant things that can put the screw in these debates, but they aren't popular opinions; or, there are better things to talk about and people are distracted with stupid arguments that do not ever provide a complete picture, no matter how hard you try, because there are more important and better things to discuss and do, and we're not doing them.




Or perhaps it's because they can get tossed out,  but they don't

***all mush growers go to prison, right?

Cmon guys, at least use a LITTLE bit of logic :lol:




i don't think you meant to respond to my post, otherwise, wow.  :hahawot:


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: TNK]
    #23842840 - 11/17/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It is irrelevant

Back to the parliamentary

"Parliamentary Systems are SUPERIOR to Presidential Systems Parliamentary Systems are much more STABLE, much more EFFICIENT, much more ACCOUNTABLE, LESS PRONE TO CORRUPTION, and the quality of leaders is better.

There are regular parliamentary sessions where the Prime Minister and Cabinet are called to account for their actions, decisions, etc which keeps them on their toes and ensures that it is harder for them to do things in secret or under the table.

The quality of leaders is better because in Parliamentary Systems, parties have to choose the best among them to become the party leader. In Presidential Systems, the tendency is for elections to be popularity contests where the most popular or those with the best name-recall win the elections, but not necessary the best ones."

http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-a-parliamentary-form-of-government-better-than-a-presidential-form-of-government



Should I move there? I'm no Brit though. I've heard nothing but bad things about Europe. Why all this emphasis on their government being better? What the fuck?

Cost of living? Minimum wage? Too cold for Hillary to make a speech because her tits will swell up in cold weather while she makes a speech outside. Which doesn't matter because she is not going to be President.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23842851 - 11/17/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Lol? Than its irrelevant that however many illegals voted because their votes would never be in the count.




It's illegal to do a lot of things, does that mean people don't do them?

Think about it, it's really obvious




Lol, you don't get it.

Yeah someone can cast a vote but you know they cross check those things right? So who cares if three million somewhat illegal immigrants voted, their vote literally doesn't count.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23842854 - 11/17/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I thought they already did:shrug:

***fair and balanced



Fox = dead old garbage bullshit

community journalism = better in every regard.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23842856 - 11/17/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

iamchavel, in a parliamentary system, you've less chance yourself to run for president.....



































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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23842858 - 11/17/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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No way.

I saw this though:

"The presidential system is better for democracy than the parliamentary one because of its separation of powers, the role of the judiciary, and government accountability to its people. A presidential system is advantageous because of the relationship between the executive and the legislature."



Online. Koods couldn't answer it even though it's not directed at him so it doesn't matter(sorry, that was mistyped). Why is a parliamentary better? More so why was it at one time the most feared form of government? I don't want to go as far back as to the time of King Longshanks. Not sure if that was parliamentary or something else.

At there more checks and balances in a parliamentary system?

Many people in other threads have said only people in the US think life is better in the US. I've never been to a country with a parliamentary system so I couldn't tell you.



people have different occupations and different life experiences which infers to them different motives for their self-interests.




Yeah. I figured.

There's your answer to the left vs right battle. It's impossible to conclude. Like Moods would go move to Europe if Hillary moved there.

But if Trump moved there then prisoner#1 would take himself over to get crumpets and tea because Murica ain't fair anymore.

It's just a topic of interest. Hillary was a scum bag and so was Trump. Why are we all here arguing instead of smoking 25 blunts outside in Colorado? I want to argue this shit while I'm blasted out of my wildest dreams in Denver? Denver is supposed to be awesome right? At least that's what EMF used to say.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23842873 - 11/17/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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iamchavel, in a parliamentary system, you've less chance yourself to run for president.....



































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I probably don't want to. Unless it's president of the fucking frat house for biochemical research on medical marijuana. Then I don't want my power removed from me.

Btw do you think Hillary was more supportive of legal marijuana then Trump?

:bobmarley:

Don't answer that. I'm just trying to instigate an argument.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: imachavel]
    #23842879 - 11/17/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

dude, Hugh Mungus for pres 2020. we'll have, so to speak, 2020 hindsight of Trump, by then. :rimshot: :cookiemonster:


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: imachavel]
    #23842886 - 11/17/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sanders was and is


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: imachavel]
    #23842887 - 11/17/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

^ i agree with this dude. the bright side i see, no matter what this bush/clinton empire will come to an end. theres really just one scary part left, will the donald surprise everyone and do everything right? or will a phoenix have to rise from the burning ashes.

Part of me wants the second. I'm ready to be a road warrior.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: Mescalean]
    #23842889 - 11/17/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The Salt of the Waters of the SJW's will Sublimate into Aeiry Precipitation, and Rain will fall down on the Earth, to inflame the Phoenix.



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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: koods]
    #23842904 - 11/17/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Exactly.  It is possible to get a fake ssn and get a driver's liscence as an illegal, but not easy or cheap.  Nobody sneaks into the US to vote.




Neither of which are required to vote :facepalm:




I would support voter ID if the state made it easy and free to get an ID. What do you think?




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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: imachavel] * 1
    #23842905 - 11/17/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Why is the popular notion that's granted among most historians involve the idea that a republic such as ours was originally way more efficient then a parliamentary system but through abuse of a "democracy" and care for the parliamentary system, our system is way less efficient then most other people's system of governance? Did I get that right?

Same system. Different rate of efficiency. People originally came here to escape Europe's government. What went wrong here and right there over 250 years course of time?

I kind of wanted to sway off the subject of right side vs left side for a minute




Right here

I cropped the post so just the last question is viewable. If you want to see the original post it's on page 20




US system:

1. An idea
2. Write the draft
3. Send to committee expert for modifications
4. Bill is proposed to a house representative
5. Bill is introduced
6. The House debates about it
7. House votes.
  - Bill denied, go back to 1 or 4
  - Bill passed, go to 8
8. Senate votes
  - Bill denied, go back to square 1 or 4
  - Bill passed, go to 9
9. President approves or vetos
10. You have a law

Parliamentary system (Canada):

Same thing with the exceptions of:

1. The House votes for the bill 3 times.
2. The Senate votes for the bill 3 times
3. The Prime Minister can't do anything about it
4. The Supreme Court can overturn any bill they deem unconstitutional


Alright. So you're thinking; why the hell do these guys waste hours of valuable time voting 6 times to pass one bill?

- Well that's a good question machavel. We do 3 readings of the bill in the house so that our elected official get more time to study every bill and fact check the bill (good old Imright.com). There is more time alloted for debate on the issue, therefore it gets more exposure to the public and Parliamentarians can gauge the public reactions. Many modifications are done on some bills.

Well what about these obviously beneficial bills or urgent bills?

- Another good question. You're on fire sir. They just vote it all in an hour, send it to Senate. They vote it all in an hour and there you go.

Supreme Court? Anti-constitutional? Overturn? What are all these words?

- If a bill  passed by Parliament is deemed unconstitutional, it'll be a "The Crown VS The People" case where "The Crown" is the equivalent of the Attorney General of the USA. So the Crown will represent the Congress in court VS We the people. "We the people" being the 9 judges of the Supreme Court.

- If a bill has already become law and someone gets arrested for a crime under that law and makes it through appeals to the Supreme Court, the Crown will defend the law in court and the dude will explain why the law is unconstitutional under the eyes of the 9 judges. If the judges decide that the law is in fact unconstitutional (awesome lawyer) they will overturn the law and give the Parliament a year to write a new bill to replace the old law that will accommodate the court's ruling on the matter. The ruling will now be federal law throughout the country.

Example: A brothel got busted in Ontario is 2010 or something. The madam of the brothel filled appeals everytime a Provincial judge said they lost. They eventually got to the Supreme Court and explained that prostitutes are safer in brothels than on the streets and it's a matter of safety for the prostitutes. The judges ruled in her favor. The morning after the a guy from BC read the paper and the headline said "Brothels now legal in Canada because of some woman in Ontario somewhere"... The court gave a year to parliament to come up with new prostitution laws.

This is long enough and you better give 5 shrooms for this dude


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 1,000,000 Votes [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23842940 - 11/17/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The Salt of the Waters of the SJW's will Sublimate into Aeiry Precipitation, and Rain will fall down on the Earth, to inflame the Phoenix.






It's fucking scary, but its hardcore real right?

I'm saying that's real talk the Pheonix will rise out of the ashes and screw your day up.


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