|
 Thayendanegea
quiet walker
 
Registered: 02/20/12
Posts: 7,600
Loc: 7 Lodges Nation 
|
 Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes  [Re: koods]
#23951401 - 12/23/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
koods said:
Quote:
lowbrow said:
Quote:
endogenous said:
The republicans keep yelling about democrats voting twice (which isn't happening). But they're perfectly happy to have the voters in North Dakota worth more than 2 votes compared to the voters in California.
Yeah -- it's fine with them if the people voting twice are republicans.
If you have evidence please post it otherwise shut yer opt out trap.
do you not understand that a North Dakota or Wyoming or Alaska or Montana vote is worth more than twice that of a California vote according to the electoral college?
It's actually more. The 40 million people in California are worth 55 electoral votes. The 40 million people living in the lowest population states are worth 120 electoral votes
Hillary Clinton would have won the electoral college as well if states were given mathematically proportional electoral votes
There you go using sound logic again Koods....you know that doesn't work on this thread.
--------------------
Look Deep Into Nature,and Then You Will Understand Everything Better.
Albert Einstein
|
daytripper05
Psychonaut
Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 6,962
Loc: In my garden
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: Thayendanegea] 1
#23951424 - 12/23/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Lol, there is no logic to saying "we would have won if we changed the rules".
If we were to give out electoral votes based on districts and not a winner take all approach, Trump still wins. If we don't count the votes in NYC and LA, Trump wins the popular vote by 500,000. 2 cities on opposite ends of the country shouldn't be allowed to choose our president.
I'm totally for sensible electoral college reform. I think human electors should go away. The electoral votes should be mathematical representation of the popular vote in each state, not an actual body of real people. Electoral votes should be bound by federal law and uniform across states. Electoral votes should be given out by districts and not a winner take all approach for the entire state.
|
 koods
Ribbit
Registered: 05/26/11
Posts: 107,601
Loc: Maryland/DC Burbs
Last seen: 17 hours, 49 minutes
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: daytripper05]
#23951429 - 12/23/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
if we don't count the votes in NYC and LA, Trump wins the popular vote by 500,000.
This pretty much sums up the conservative mindset
--------------------
NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”
|
koods
Ribbit
Registered: 05/26/11
Posts: 107,601
Loc: Maryland/DC Burbs
Last seen: 17 hours, 49 minutes
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: koods]
#23951435 - 12/23/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
totally for sensible electoral college reform. I think human electors should go away. The electoral votes should be mathematical representation of the popular vote in each state, not an actual body of real people. Electoral votes should be bound by federal law and uniform across states. Electoral votes should be given out by districts and not a winner take all approach for the entire state.
Clinton 263
Trump 262
Johnson 10
Stein 2
McMullin 1
--------------------
NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”
|
luvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: koods]
#23951460 - 12/23/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
koods said:
do you not understand that a North Dakota or Wyoming or Alaska or Montana vote is worth more than twice that of a California vote according to the electoral college?
We vote for President by state, not nationally.
If you're in California, your vote counts as 1 person, just like every Californian.
If you're in New York, your vote counts as 1 person, just like every New Yorker.
If you're in North Dakota, your vote counts 1 person, just like every North Dakotan..
This isn't rocket science and those who can't grasp this simple concept should be embarrassed mortified.
We vote by state in the hope that the one your state votes for will be the next President. Just like you vote for the Representatives and Senators for your state.
--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
|
luvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: Herbologist] 3
#23951467 - 12/23/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Herbologist said:
Poor shroomy mod, in here talking to himself trying to make others believe his nonsense. Its like the bum on the street spewing conspiracy, sad 
Debating this topic with koods is like kicking a cripple that attacks you.
Too easy, except I imagine the cripple would learn from his/her error.
--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
|
koods
Ribbit
Registered: 05/26/11
Posts: 107,601
Loc: Maryland/DC Burbs
Last seen: 17 hours, 49 minutes
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: koods]
#23951468 - 12/23/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
man child tweets of the day
  
--------------------
NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”
|
luvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: koods]
#23951470 - 12/23/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
koods said:
man child tweets of the day
^^^^^ Childish post of the day. ^^^^
You beclown yourself more with each one.
--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
|
koods
Ribbit
Registered: 05/26/11
Posts: 107,601
Loc: Maryland/DC Burbs
Last seen: 17 hours, 49 minutes
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#23951476 - 12/23/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:
koods said:
do you not understand that a North Dakota or Wyoming or Alaska or Montana vote is worth more than twice that of a California vote according to the electoral college?
We vote for President by state, not nationally.
If you're in California, your vote counts as 1 person, just like every Californian.
If you're in New York, your vote counts as 1 person, just like every New Yorker.
If you're in North Dakota, your vote counts 1 person, just like every North Dakotan..
This isn't rocket science and those who can't grasp this simple concept should be embarrassed mortified.
We vote by state in the hope that the one your state votes for will be the next President. Just like you vote for the Representatives and Senators for your state.
States don't vote for representatives, districts do.
Representatives elected by districts
Senators elected by states
Presidents should be elected by the nation
--------------------
NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”
|
luvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: koods]
#23951479 - 12/23/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
koods said:
States don't vote for representatives, districts do.
Representatives elected by districts
Senators elected by states
Presidents should be elected by the nation
We vote for President by state, not nationally.
If you're in California, your vote counts as 1 person, just like every Californian.
If you're in New York, your vote counts as 1 person, just like every New Yorker.
If you're in North Dakota, your vote counts 1 person, just like every North Dakotan..
This isn't rocket science and those who can't grasp this simple concept should be embarrassed mortified.
We vote by state in the hope that the one your state votes for will be the next President. Just like you vote for the Representatives and Senators for your state.
--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
|
Patlal
You ask too many questions
Registered: 10/09/10
Posts: 44,897
Loc: Ottawa 
Last seen: 8 hours, 21 minutes
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: luvdemshrooms] 2
#23951487 - 12/23/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
This thread is turning into the "How stupid can Koods get" thread and it's sad...
What's even sadder is that he's so heavily invested in this that his ego will never allow him to admit defeat.
Really sad
--------------------
Edited by Patlal (12/23/16 12:03 PM)
|
luvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: Patlal] 1
#23951489 - 12/23/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
His posts became sad long ago. That's the problem with bitterness.
--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
|
koods
Ribbit
Registered: 05/26/11
Posts: 107,601
Loc: Maryland/DC Burbs
Last seen: 17 hours, 49 minutes
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: Patlal]
#23951501 - 12/23/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Patlal said:
This thread is turning into the "How stupid can Koods get" thread and it's sad...
What's even sadder is that he's so heavily invested in this that his ego will never allow him to admit defeat.
Really sad
So do states votes for representatives or not? LDS keeps making this ridiculous claim, while you call me stupid 
--------------------
NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”
|
Patlal
You ask too many questions
Registered: 10/09/10
Posts: 44,897
Loc: Ottawa
Last seen: 8 hours, 21 minutes
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: koods]
#23951509 - 12/23/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
koods said:
Quote:
Patlal said:
This thread is turning into the "How stupid can Koods get" thread and it's sad...
What's even sadder is that he's so heavily invested in this that his ego will never allow him to admit defeat.
Really sad
So do states votes for representatives or not? LDS keeps making this ridiculous claim, while you call me stupid
You're suffering from an economic theory called the overly optimism of sunk costs.
In a few words it's to keep throwing money at a project that has already failed in the hopes of saving it even though the faith is already sealed.
Trump won. He will be President. That's it.
--------------------
Edited by Patlal (12/23/16 12:12 PM)
|
luvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: koods]
#23951514 - 12/23/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Are the people of the districts not voting for the representatives of their state?
It's an accurate claim.
Are those that live in state A voting for the representatives of state B?
--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
|
Patlal
You ask too many questions
Registered: 10/09/10
Posts: 44,897
Loc: Ottawa
Last seen: 8 hours, 21 minutes
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#23951539 - 12/23/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
See Koods. Normally I have no problem with people clinging on to a lost cause and melting or whatever. I just see them as weak and overly emotional and to be honest, it's part of the fun I get from this website.
There are some users however that are smarter than that and that I respect because of it. They don't get themselves banned over a heated argument. They keep up, they are interesting.
Now you are part of that group and to see you cling on to this thread is slowly putting you the group that makes most of us laugh. I don't like that. I respect you too much to let you go down that road. Now I know we never met and me having respect for you means nothing in your daily life, but you have it. But ever since Trump won you've been making it harder and harder and I just feel as if I have to interfere and not let you go downhill even though I dont have to. We all have weaknesses and this argument right here is absolutely it for you. You may not see it, but we do and peeps like LDS and Hostiluniverse can and will go for your jugular just for the sake of entertainment. I probably will too if this keeps going on until after the inauguration.
So yeah. That being said, I don't know what else I could do or write.
Take it like want, don't read it if you don't feel like it. But it's just here, for you, in case you're interested.
--------------------
|
PatrickKn
Registered: 07/10/11
Posts: 21,179
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: Patlal] 2
#23951556 - 12/23/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Patlal said:
You're suffering from an economic theory called the overly optimism of sunk costs.
|
Patlal
You ask too many questions
Registered: 10/09/10
Posts: 44,897
Loc: Ottawa
Last seen: 8 hours, 21 minutes
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: PatrickKn]
#23951561 - 12/23/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
PatrickKn said:
Quote:
Patlal said:
You're suffering from an economic theory called the overly optimism of sunk costs.
See. This guy knows what I'm talking about
--------------------
Edited by Patlal (12/23/16 12:30 PM)
|
koods
Ribbit
Registered: 05/26/11
Posts: 107,601
Loc: Maryland/DC Burbs
Last seen: 17 hours, 49 minutes
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#23951580 - 12/23/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
luvdemshrooms said:
Are the people of the districts not voting for the representatives of their state?
No they are not. They are voting for a representative for their district.
--------------------
NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”
|
Thayendanegea
quiet walker
Registered: 02/20/12
Posts: 7,600
Loc: 7 Lodges Nation
|
Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: Patlal]
#23951586 - 12/23/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Like I said...logic makes no difference here. The delegate system has been outdated for years and was based on the idea that many people in back country could not make it to the polls to vote so the delegates were appointed to make a an educated guess by an informal survey of the people in their district.
Since then we have automobiles and absentee ballots ...no one has an excuse not to vote. The system was designed to reflect the popular vote and is no longer necessary. Since then, the delegates system has been corrupted by remaking district lines to show preference to one party or the other. The delegate system is an antiquated system that is due for a funeral. We have a government by the people and for the people that says the majority wins...and so it should be.
--------------------
Look Deep Into Nature,and Then You Will Understand Everything Better.
Albert Einstein
|
|
Threaded
Previous
Index
Next
Shop: Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder
Edit 
Reply 
1 2 all )
gdman
Trainwreck
Phychotron
Jenny
Infrared
Tomatadunothing
Innvertigo
Ali