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Offlinebeforethedawn
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Life is 99% brain health?
    #23816498 - 11/09/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Who agrees with this statement?

Any change, ANY change in the brain results in a change in the environment. The brain is constructing a possibility of everything you experience, based on some unconscious decisions it makes for you.

Right?

I think it's right.

So any damage or detriment to the brain can put your life into utter chaos and total shite-ness.

Trust me I know.

Likewise, any enhancement of the brain goes the opposite direction, into pleasure and wonder and joy.

If you can somehow find a way to breathe more life into your brain - meditation, supplements, etc. I think you will have total control of a beautiful, easy life.

Life is just brain health, a state of mind.

Thoughts?


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23816521 - 11/09/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I agree with that over that it's a purely spiritual experience.

Likely why drug philosophy needs modernized and accept psychedelics.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23816542 - 11/09/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

way too simplified,
why would you want that?
then what?


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23816556 - 11/09/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I know it sounds a bit materialist but I'm not saying thoughts don't change the brain, just that brain health, whatever achieves it, determines everything.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23816585 - 11/09/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

what about interest, habit, economy, politics, environment...


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23816606 - 11/09/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Brain cells die all the time but you have enough to last you a while.
If your brain starts bleeding or has a slice cut out of it then of course there can be serious damage.

Hard drugs like cocaine and meth can also act to form necrosis of the brain.

A change in the brain changes how someone perceives the environment but it does not change the actual molecular makeup of the environment itself.

But yes, life is brain health.
I think the Central and Peripheral sections of the human nervous system act together to form a Tripartite soul.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23816621 - 11/09/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think and find psycadelics open up totally unexplored fields of thought.  I'm not the first.

Then on to bigger and better things.

What are you doing on this site!


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23816727 - 11/09/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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beforethedawn said:
I know it sounds a bit materialist but I'm not saying thoughts don't change the brain, just that brain health, whatever achieves it, determines everything.




Thoughts can change the physical body. I can think about a hot chick and give myself an erection.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: viktor]
    #23816840 - 11/09/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Mental cognition can result in chemical and electrical changes throughout your body but not outside of your body in the external environment. 

Thermo-regulation is the closest thing to effecting the environment around you.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: sudly] * 1
    #23816847 - 11/09/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How the fuck do you know?


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: sudly]
    #23816849 - 11/09/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think we affect the world in more ways than just body heat, look at global warming.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: viktor]
    #23816887 - 11/09/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Science is a pretty dandy thing.

Our physical actions effect the world but they result from chemical and electrical interactions within the human nervous system.

This means the electromagnetic activity within your nervous system does not directly effect the external environment. The activity effects the muscles which can then in turn effect the environment around them.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23816892 - 11/09/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

As redgreenvines said

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redgreenvines said:
what about interest, habit, economy, politics, environment...
(and)
way too simplified,





and 'health' is undefined

does health include IQ ? does that matter to happiness?

which talents are most important?

how do you distinguish power of concentration, from: brain 'health', talent, & IQ ?

What about compassion?

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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: laughingdog]
    #23816906 - 11/09/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

what if sudly is actually swami or orgone conclusion?
it could explain the weird repetitive humor with severely mangled science.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23816928 - 11/09/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

sounds like a foregone salami collusion


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: laughingdog]
    #23817037 - 11/09/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I guess the concept of Dualism has become somewhat of a guide to me.

If you don't believe in Dualism you won't understand it.

Even so it'd be nice of you to point out this 'mangled' science.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: sudly] * 1
    #23817057 - 11/09/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

oh never mind about that, shine on you crazy diamond.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23817074 - 11/09/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23817078 - 11/09/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

So definitely, definitely, things mentioned affect life, but I'm making a bit of a statement for the brain here, saying that IME it all comes down to what your brain is doing, I mean, somehow, it's ALL in the brain.

Not to be confused with the perspective of solipsism or materialism.

As someone who has watched the brain improve and wondered if I'm 'finally there', finally 'well', so many times, I've realised it's all just a brain process and we can't even speak of reality.

We can of course make it all better for ourselves, by keeping or making the brain as healthy as possible.

Also, yes, psychedelics have been proven to improve brain health and connectivity, exactly what I'm talking about.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23817097 - 11/09/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I mean, somehow, it's ALL in the brain.




The human mind is controlled by the Central Nervous System which consists of the Brain and Spinal cord.
The human bodily functions are controlled by the Peripheral nervous system which is everything outside of the Brain and Spinal cord.

A healthy Central Nervous System is important to living.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23817144 - 11/09/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think healthy 'hardware' can still have corrupt 'software' no? :smile:


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23817217 - 11/09/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
what if sudly is actually swami or orgone conclusion?
it could explain the weird repetitive humor with severely mangled science.




OC was funny though. Sudly, with his constant assertions that we are nothing more than central nervous systems, come across as more than a little creepy.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: sudly] * 1
    #23817220 - 11/09/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I guess the concept of Dualism has become somewhat of a guide to me.

If you don't believe in Dualism you won't understand it.

Even so it'd be nice of you to point out this 'mangled' science.




sudly, you do realize that Cartesian dualism is one of the main reasons Western civilization is so fucked in the head, right?  Moreover, it is totally incompatible with what we know of relativity and quantum mechanics, if you care.  I thought you were into science.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23817259 - 11/09/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Cartesian Dualism is a historical idea, the form of Dualism I follow is a contemporary approach to the topic that encompasses the scientific method and context from four other theories of cognition that include Tripartite(Plato)/Triune(Mclean)/Freudian(Freud) and Bicameral(Jaynes)

It's entirely compatible with pilot wave theory which is in my opinion the more rational of the two theories on the framework of matter. I don't believe a molecule can exist simultaneously as two separate entities which is why the pilot wave theory which suggests a molecule has a guiding wave force makes more sense to me.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: sudly]
    #23817304 - 11/09/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I like pilot wave theory, too, but it is not dualistic.  But I am seeing that your concept of dualism is rather idiosyncratic, so nevermind.

Incidentally, physicists have explained the double-slit experiment with a droplet in a silicone bath, vibrated at certain frequencies.  If you believe this experiment is isomorphic with the subatomic realm, it may be strong evidence that pilot wave theory is correct.  Check it out, I think you'll like it:  http://www.kurzweilai.net/when-fluid-dynamics-mimic-quantum-mechanics


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #23817364 - 11/09/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Pilot wave theory isn't dualistic but the human experience certainly is as far as I know/have experienced.

I am working on an idiosyncratic theory called 'Modern Triune Theory' that combines and links each of the elements I've mentioned.

I thought this video explained quantum things well.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23817455 - 11/09/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
I think we affect the world in more ways than just body heat, look at global warming.





I have not looked in depth at global warming, although when I was a younger person I saw that Al Gore film, and that being my hippie phase of my life, thought it was "right on man".

I came to understand later that the planets heat up and cool down in cycles, but again I could be wrong in thinking that way, read that years ago too.

Damn, I am out of date.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: sudly]
    #23817464 - 11/09/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, that is an excellent video.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23817682 - 11/09/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've tried nootropics, not worth the side-effects, imo. High dose Omegas+Ginko+African Kanna really brightens things up.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23817706 - 11/09/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've read good things about lion's mane mushroom extract for brain and nervous system health - might be something to look into if you're interested in that :smile:


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: Lucis]
    #23818366 - 11/10/16 05:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Fennario said:
Quote:

redgreenvines said:
I think we affect the world in more ways than just body heat, look at global warming.





I have not looked in depth at global warming, although when I was a younger person I saw that Al Gore film, and that being my hippie phase of my life, thought it was "right on man".

I came to understand later that the planets heat up and cool down in cycles, but again I could be wrong in thinking that way, read that years ago too.





The new Leonardo DiCaprio documentary, Before the Flood, is even scarier. It's only been a decade since Gore's film, and climate change has progressed quite rapidly.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23818434 - 11/10/16 06:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yes, that is an excellent video.



interesting video with few errors (i.e. the storing of information bit ignores that each bounce wave is actually creating interference with the waves of the previous bounce(s) - that interference pattern alone causes the effect he is calling stored information.)

anyway it has nothing to do with the idiosyncratic triune thing which should probably be in spirituality and mysticism... I don't think triune theory measures up as scientific observation or theory.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23819455 - 11/10/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The theory I'm working on is about anatomy not quantum mechanics, that part was just an interesting dicussion.

The modern Triune theory is based on anatomy so unless you think magic is the best explanation of the human experience than this is the best forum for it.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: sudly]
    #23819657 - 11/10/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23819829 - 11/10/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The Modern Triune theory can be vetoed and criticised to the whim of your will once it is completed as then you would have the full context.

These things take time and my presumption is that I'll be finished or well on my way to completion within a year.


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: sudly]
    #23819913 - 11/10/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

well do you mean to mention it in nearly every post in nearly every thread for the  next year solid?


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Re: Life is 99% brain health? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23820431 - 11/10/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

As long as it's relevant I intend to continue my theory development.


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