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#23816338 - 11/09/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi I was wondering if this would be a good combination or not?
I have thus far had only a few trips on DMT but they were spectacular. I have yet to achieve a breakthrough.
I was wondering if I made some type of enhanced leaf with one gram of herb and 100 mg of dmt, would this be an awesome smoking mixture?
I was thinking it would be an awesome mixture, yet I've read that many peoples experiences are that marijuana "fogs" or distorts the dmt experience in some strange way. Still others say that smoking cannabis prior to vaporizing dmt is awesome.
The thing is, I'm prone to anxiety, so I don't know if being under the influence of any other substance prior to vaping dmt is a good idea or not.
One thing I think I am certain of is that dmt made me feel "welcome" in its space, as opposed to the horrible first trip I had on changa one and half years ago.
I don't want to disrespect the dmt or profane the journey in any way, which is why I have refrained from mixing herb with it. But something in the back of my mind is telling me that making an enhanced dmt leaf with potent weed would actually be an awesome idea. My experiments are solely for the exploration of higher consciousness and self-realization/entry into higher divine dimensions.
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83] 1
#23816488 - 11/09/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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First of all, you'll need a ration of 1:1. 1 gr of mj to 100mg do Dmt is too much, you'll have hard time consuming it.
I had a combination of cannabis and dmt, it was weird. I prefer entering the space while sober and focused.
But that's just me.
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I appreciate your reply, but one gram of dmt to one gram of cannabis sounds like an extreme waste of dmt. Seeing as how I would probably smoke half a gram to one gram of enhanced-leaf weed in one sitting, that would be getting 500 mg to one gram of dmt IN ONE SITTING. That is extreme overkill and I do not see the purpose behind this at all.
I wanted to be able to smoke a half gram to one gram of weed infused with 50-75 mg of dmt which seem like it would make a great combination.
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83]
#23816528 - 11/09/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol, using enhanced leaf means 100mg herb + 100mg dmt for that matter. It's a lot more easier to hold in you lungs rather than a smoke coming out of half a gram of herb + the dmt. You will not manage to do so unless you have the lungs of a rhino.
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good point man, i'm glad you clarified that. But the only problem I see with these ratios is that 100 milligrams dmt per 100 milligrams of weed would be TOO MUCH DMT AND NOT ENOUGH WEED. I want to actually be able to feel the weed, which is why I was suggesting to use half a gram of weed or so with 50 milligrams of dmt.
you said the combination made you feel weird or spaced out? I know what you mean about wanting to enter the dmt space totally sober. I could see how weed could potentially confuse the experience. Which is too bad because I really wanted to make a dmt-enhanced weed blend.
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83]
#23816713 - 11/09/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I see what you're saying but IMO it won't work with these amounts. It's just too much smoke, even when I do total of 70-100mg of infused herb, it's so harsh on the lungs, the plastic feeling, I can't imagine smoking half a gram of it (didn't include the dmt) - it's just crazy.
It's not the same but try to smoke a bowl or two and then hit the DMT, I don't see how it can be so different.
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Sorry, but couldn't you just pack less in your bowl? I don't understand why lung capacity even has a part in this debate, ALSO, using small amounts of DMT from 5mg-15mg on weed is really all I've done and it definitely does something if held in. If you go through a half a gram of weed in a session like you say I have trouble believing you wont feel anything. My first TINY, LIKE REALLY TINY hit of dmt with weed made everything vibrate and warp, I could hear the high pitched sounds from all my electronics, and it was like I had HD vision.
I might try this sometime after a few more in depth doses of the Deemz by itself.
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Thanks for the replies.
But the only thing I really wanted to know is if dmt and marijuana are compatible together or if they create some kind beautiful synergy which cannot be experienced by using each separately; or if marijuana interferes with the dmt experience
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83]
#23817578 - 11/09/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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mantis83 said: Thanks for the replies.
But the only thing I really wanted to know is if dmt and marijuana are compatible together or if they create some kind beautiful synergy which cannot be experienced by using each separately; or if marijuana interferes with the dmt experience
Depends what you're into man, I liked it and it definitely made the weed pronounced the same way other psyches do for me.
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AstralAndrew said: Sorry, but couldn't you just pack less in your bowl? I don't understand why lung capacity even has a part in this debate, ALSO, using small amounts of DMT from 5mg-15mg on weed is really all I've done and it definitely does something if held in. If you go through a half a gram of weed in a session like you say I have trouble believing you wont feel anything. My first TINY, LIKE REALLY TINY hit of dmt with weed made everything vibrate and warp, I could hear the high pitched sounds from all my electronics, and it was like I had HD vision.
I might try this sometime after a few more in depth doses of the Deemz by itself.
Let's say he has 100mg dmt infused onto 1gr of weed. He wants to experience a dose of 50mg dmt. So the end result will be 0.55 enhanced leaf. If it's a changa, have fun. If you want to experience the dmt to its max. potential, at least I CAN'T hold 0.5 of smoke for 30 seconds, especially with the harsh feeling of dmt. Now u can take several hits, but for me it's a waste.
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If you are prone to anxiety when really high, then you shouldn't mix the two. Otherwise go for it. In my experience I am usually 'gone' before the weed kicks in and do not feel it until I'm coming back down.
Also, instead of making DMT infused weed wouldn't it be a lot easier to pack half a bowl of weed, add desired dosage of dmt then top off with the other half a bowl?
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Like I said, take smaller hits. You don't need to rip .5 of weed at a time, why would he bother MIXING it if he could just add 50mg of DMT to his bowl? He's talking about consistently mixing the two into a smoking mixture, not necessarily in the interest of blasting off. I couldn't rip .5g of weed out of a bong at one time, I'd be coughing and spitting over the sink for twenty mins.
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You misunderstood me. I wasn't talking about smoking the whole half-gram in one hit. But I wanted to make an enhanced leaf at the ratio of 1:10 dmt/cannabis. This way, I would have half a gram of kind bud infused with 50 milligrams of dmt, and would smoke this in three or so hits.
I wish I knew whether or not this is a good idea. I don't want to waste any dmt or any weed. Some people think it's an awesome combination, and yet so many others say that cannabis interferes with the effects of dmt somehow. I just don't know which is true.
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83]
#23818829 - 11/10/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds subjective to me, why not try it but with the amount you'd pack in a bowl and see if you like it
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83]
#23819236 - 11/10/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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mantis83 said: You misunderstood me. I wasn't talking about smoking the whole half-gram in one hit. But I wanted to make an enhanced leaf at the ratio of 1:10 dmt/cannabis. This way, I would have half a gram of kind bud infused with 50 milligrams of dmt, and would smoke this in three or so hits.
I wish I knew whether or not this is a good idea. I don't want to waste any dmt or any weed. Some people think it's an awesome combination, and yet so many others say that cannabis interferes with the effects of dmt somehow. I just don't know which is true.
ok thanks
Are you trying to use this DMT infused weed to break through?
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: healing]
#23819264 - 11/10/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are you trying to use this DMT infused weed to break through?
hi healing. Yes, I am trying to breakthrough into the cosmic dmt hyperspace with this particular blend. I read elsewhere that this combination produces amazing synergy. So instead of just infusing non-psychoactive herbs I really wanted to try by infusing one gram of herb with 100 milligrams of dmt, and smoking a half gram of this in one session.
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83]
#23819366 - 11/10/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Assuming 50mg is your normal breakthrough dosage, It might be very difficult. I think it might not work. You would have to smoke that half a gram very very quickly to be able to break through.
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: healing]
#23819397 - 11/10/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ok, so would a ratio of 1:5 dmt/cannabis be more practical then a 1:10 blend?
Or would simply vaporizing the dmt on its own be a much better idea? I'm glad that I did not end up making enhanced leaf or changa with what I have left over now. Maybe dmt on it's own is the best and not to mix with anything.
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83]
#23819908 - 11/10/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess so. Then you would only have to smoke a quarter of a gram very quickly.
If the goal is to get high and blast off, you could just smoke weed first and then smoke DMT.
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: healing]
#23819978 - 11/10/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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about "blasting off"
could you please describe it in a little detail, as I have never had a breakthrough experience with smoked DMT?
does the body go with you? or just the mind? or neither? I'm just a bit confused. I had a sub-breakthrough dose a few months ago and I must say it was unbelievable how awesome it was. I keep wondering to myself, what if I had taken more and broken through, what would have happened?
I hope I am not a dmt "hardhead" and can never breakthrough. That would be most upsetting and saddening.
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83]
#23820025 - 11/10/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're better off just making some changa man, or up the ratio of dmt. You will waste a lot the way you intend to do it, so just keep that in mind.
I would personally make changa though, it's quite different from plain ol dmt, and may be just what you are looking for.
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changa you say? With shredded ayahuasca vine? Or with ayahuasca leaf extract? or both?
and make it at a 1:1 ratio of dmt/ayahuasca leaf?
that's better than vaporizing pure dmt? I have such an awesome hand-held dmt vaporizer and have not yet used it.
I just don't know which is the better way, and why you think changa would be better than straight dmt?
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83]
#23820050 - 11/10/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am in the camp that thinks marijuana fogs and adds paranoia to psychedelic experiences. WHat I like to do, is smoke after the psychedelic experience has ended during the after glow phase. This allows me to reflect on the experience and sometimes revisit it.
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83]
#23820054 - 11/10/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not saying it's better, it's just different. There are plenty of different changa recipes that you can look up, you are looking for plants with higher maoi concentrations. There was a thread I saw on dmt nexus that had a couple varieties that you can make, I'll try to find it.
Better is just a matter of opinion, so try both and see which you like best.
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https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=3539
Here is the thread, there's some good info in there do get you started.
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You said i'd be wasting a lot the way i intend to consume it? Do you mean by enhancing cannabis with dmt? Why would that be a waste? Or do you mean by vaporizing freebase by itself would be wasting it? Why would that be a waste? I always thought that having ganja herb enhanced with dmt would be an awesome smoking mixture. It just seems like it would be. Thanks for your advice.
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83]
#23820422 - 11/10/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It would be a waste to make any kind of enhanced herb at a ratio of 1:10 if your intention is break through.
If you make it at 1:1 it would not be a waste.
Vaporizing it on its own would also not be a waste, though it can be more difficult than smoking enhanced leaf.
It would be fine to enhance some cannabis, but it's just not going to work the way you're imagining it. Either you'll get high from the weed, but won't be able to blast off, or you'll be able to blast off, but you won't get very high from the weed.
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: healing]
#23820460 - 11/10/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the advice.
I think now I am just going to keep it as it is, and attempt to breakthrough by vaporizing it in its crystal form.
I made an enhanced leaf with a little bit of it and some peppermint leaves. The smoke was very refreshing and calming, and I could slowly get more in tune with dmt by taking small hits gradually over the course of a few hours. I wasn't trying to breakthrough, just stay at a very peaceful and elevated space. It was far greater than I expected it to be. I sometimes wonder what would have happened had I broken through completely. I always hesitate to go further with this, although it seems like there is infinite love and wisdom to be gained from this. I'm just scared of what might happen during a breakthrough experience. Someone told me that complete ego-death is possible. I'm nervous to go further but I really would like to.
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83]
#23820990 - 11/10/16 08:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I really wanted to enhance several grams of potent, high quality herb with pure white dmt at a ratio of 1:1, creating a 50% dmt/50% dank herbal smoking mixture. That would be a one hit breakthrough without a doubt, 2 at the very most, and my intuition tells me that a few hits of THIS weed would be a very enlightening experience. Isn't there anyone here who would agree with me, or that has done this before themselves and could tell me about their experiences? Thank you
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83]
#23822229 - 11/11/16 07:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Having recently not had too much success with breaking through the Hyperspacial veil on DMT, I began to search for other methods in which I may utilize this tool. I find that mixing a 40mg amount sandwiched between a bowl of weed allows for excellent experiences, if one's intent for meditation was to perceive intelligent infinity/if you ponder the cosmic nature of existence. It felt like a Big Bang of insight with dancing serpents of visions encompassed my being.
I quoted this from a thread from over 5 years ago. Apparently this guy could not breakthrough into dmt-hyperspace until he mixed it with a small amount of cannabis. I also want to experience a dmt breakthrough but preferably on dmt alone. But if this is a good combination like this guy says it is then maybe I should try.
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83]
#23823506 - 11/11/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this particular synergy?
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83]
#23823729 - 11/11/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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basically when u mix weed with DMT, the DMT eventually overpowers the weed and u dont even think about the weed anymore.
Not too much to mixing them, load a bowl with weed, sprinkle some DMT on top, then vaporize then repeat again. Best to use a ice filled bong since its least harsh that way.
i prefer smoking DMT by itself, so i can focus on the DMT experience solely. Im a purist that way 
But u know what does have amazing syngery? Smoking DMT while peaking on shrooms. Try it. it may change your life
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thanks for all the replies, I appreciate it.
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basically when u mix weed with DMT, the DMT eventually overpowers the weed and u dont even think about the weed anymore.
I always thought the two would make some kind of awesome, mystical synergy which would create a profound experience, even more so than consuming either one alone.
oh well. I'll know soon enough whether or not to proceed with this and what the unspeakable has in store for me.
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Re: dmt enhanced cannabis [Re: mantis83]
#23837430 - 11/16/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So i'm hoping that the spirits of both dmt and cannabis play well together as this mixture seems like it has the capacity to take the participant deep into the sacred and back. Thanks for listening and hopefully some more people experienced with this combo can add their opinions/experiences.
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