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OfflineCj-B
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Republican dominance of the US government
    #23816086 - 11/09/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

So, anyone else concerned about the fact that Republicans have majority in both houses of our legislative branch, both the head of our executive branch and likely all of his cabinet appointees, and inevitably a majority Republican Supreme Court after Trump settles into office and makes his nominations? Not speaking as a liberal (though obviously at least a decent portion of my unease is due to this) but as an American, having one of our political parties granted the ability to flagrantly railroad pretty much any piece of legislation or policy past the American public is deeply worrying.


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: Cj-B]
    #23816107 - 11/09/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ya a bunch of Jesus freaks trying to control the scientific atheists.

I've heard people get excited about Trump due to their belief it will bring God back to the American people.

No that's not crazy?


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: Morel Guy] * 3
    #23816161 - 11/09/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What those people fail to take into account is that there is such a thing as an anti-Christ..


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: zZZz]
    #23816181 - 11/09/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Trump is pretty much the dictator of America for at least 2 years.


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #23816300 - 11/09/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yes this is scary. It is also scary to think that hardcore drug warriors like Chris Christie and Rudy Giuliani are top advisors to Trump and could even become cabinet members or head of the DOJ.


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: Grey Fox]
    #23816327 - 11/09/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Trump has a very prgressive stance on drugs IMO.

He says that the states should decide marijuana by themselves and he said that heroin users need treatment. The past was: Marijuana illegal, heroin users go to jail.


I think that's a good step.


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: Patlal]
    #23816402 - 11/09/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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having one of our political parties granted the ability to flagrantly railroad pretty much any piece of legislation or policy past the American public is deeply worrying.




As we have experienced for the last eight years with the Obama administration. Difference is Trump will be met with actual resistance from both sides, unlike Obama has experienced during his entire stay.


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: Astral Pain]
    #23816468 - 11/09/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

They need 60 votes to pass anything through the Senate, so they'll have to work with at least a few Democrats.


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin] * 1
    #23816485 - 11/09/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

OP, what makes this worse is that despite being down 30 some seats in the house. It is entirely possible that democrats received more votes in total than republicans in house races. Additionally Hillary Clinton received more votes than Trump. So, the republicans have free reign and they didn't even win the majority of votes cast. 

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having one of our political parties granted the ability to flagrantly railroad pretty much any piece of legislation or policy past the American public is deeply worrying.




As we have experienced for the last eight years with the Obama administration. Difference is Trump will be met with actual resistance from both sides, unlike Obama has experienced during his entire stay.




Wait what? You think Obama has been able to railroad anything he wants or that he hasn't? Because Obama has spent the past six years being subject to contact obstruction,

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They need 60 votes to pass anything through the Senate, so they'll have to work with at least a few Democrats.




It requires 60 votes to end debate and bring a bill to a vote. The constitution mandates that most bills are passed with a simple majority.


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: koods]
    #23816499 - 11/09/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, but if you can't bring it to a vote a majority doesn't mean shit. Hence why it takes 60 votes to pass anything through the Senate.


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: Astral Pain]
    #23816527 - 11/09/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Astral Pain said:
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having one of our political parties granted the ability to flagrantly railroad pretty much any piece of legislation or policy past the American public is deeply worrying.




As we have experienced for the last eight years with the Obama administration. Difference is Trump will be met with actual resistance from both sides, unlike Obama has experienced during his entire stay.



Good!!!


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: Patlal]
    #23816529 - 11/09/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Trump is pretty much the dictator of America for at least 2 years.




Just like Obama had, then they lost it. Obama has more executive legislation than any other president I can think of. If anything, Obama has been the dictator.

If there is one thing you can see from the Republican primaries is that they aren't known to work together very well. The Democrats will all team together and railroad legislation through with massive deals and bloated "one size fits all" sized bills without actually reading it or debating it. The Republican Senate and House have disagreed a lot in the last 8 years. The Republicans are so bad at unifying, their best trait might just be keeping each other in check.

You now have John Boehner (R) and Harry Reid (D) out of office, both of which were extremely responsible for blocking and railroading shitty legislations. If we could get Mitch McConnell (R) out of the Senate, that would be another career politician out and a younger fresh perspective as the Senate Majority Leader.


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: daytripper05] * 1
    #23816638 - 11/09/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Trump is going to fuck everything up. Completely politically inexperienced, easily slighted, tends towards all or nothing strategies, grandiose thinking and he has both houses and the supreme court. The police is militarized with armored vehicles and military hardware, the military is combat ready, you have the biggest prison system, its all set.

He's going to fuck everything up completely, mark my words, and there is not a damn thing the UN can do for you because he is going to retailate with nukes.

His next bankruptcy will be a State or the Union.

This is going to be a disaster.

Arm yourselves, Americans. You may have to take back the land by force.


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: Asante]
    #23816644 - 11/09/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Let's just hope it remains a democracy.  If it does it won't be as bad.  Bush Jr already did so much damage with epic surveillance.


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: daytripper05]
    #23816661 - 11/09/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:lol: Obama certainly never had a 100% democratic government. Hell, the only time I can recall there being a majority Democratic Congress during his terms were 2007-2009. Otherwise both the legislative branch and the SCOTUS were Republican majority afaik.

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Trump is pretty much the dictator of America for at least 2 years.




Just like Obama had, then they lost it. Obama has more executive legislation than any other president I can think of. If anything, Obama has been the dictator.

If there is one thing you can see from the Republican primaries is that they aren't known to work together very well. The Democrats will all team together and railroad legislation through with massive deals and bloated "one size fits all" sized bills without actually reading it or debating it. The Republican Senate and House have disagreed a lot in the last 8 years. The Republicans are so bad at unifying, their best trait might just be keeping each other in check.


You now have John Boehner (R) and Harry Reid (D) out of office, both of which were extremely responsible for blocking and railroading shitty legislations. If we could get Mitch McConnell (R) out of the Senate, that would be another career politician out and a younger fresh perspective as the Senate Majority Leader.




I'm hoping this bit is true just cuz the idea of a bunch of dessicated old corpses pressed into suits channeling their religious beliefs into legislation and social policy gives me the shivers.


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: Asante]
    #23816663 - 11/09/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Trump is going to fuck everything up. Completely politically inexperienced, easily slighted, tends towards all or nothing strategies, grandiose thinking and he has both houses and the supreme court. The police is militarized with armored vehicles and military hardware, the military is combat ready, you have the biggest prison system, its all set.

He's going to fuck everything up completely, mark my words, and there is not a damn thing the UN can do for you because he is going to retailate with nukes.

His next bankruptcy will be a State or the Union.

This is going to be a disaster.

Arm yourselves, Americans. You may have to take back the land by force.




I know I'm fuckin' stoked to watch it burn. If Canada has to go to so be it, I just want to watch the dumbfucks tear themselves apart

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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #23816673 - 11/09/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Looks like the Rastaman was right after all.






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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23816688 - 11/09/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If the human race has to go down let's accelerate I say, the more I know the more oblivion appeals.


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: Asante]
    #23816691 - 11/09/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Seriously though, I really, REALLY hope the CIA or NSA has a contingency plan and will pull a JFK if they have to. Surely there is a plan that protects America and the world from a president going rogue.


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Re: Republican dominance of the US government [Re: Asante]
    #23816706 - 11/09/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Seriously though, I really, REALLY hope the CIA or NSA has a contingency plan and will pull a JFK if they have to. Surely there is a plan that protects America and the world from a president going rogue.




if they make a martyr of him it won't help, his movement will gain religious intensity and likely never die. It may just be best if he does send out the nukes, save billions from a slow painful slide into misery that seems more and more inevitable


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