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Mike4aco
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Salvia roa
#23815409 - 11/09/16 07:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just got some sally d from a friend. I tried smoking it but then she laughed at me. Was an interesting first experience, a complete sense of a female saying something to the effect of you silly boy that's not going to do it for you.
So later I decided I wanted to quid it.
Firstly, because I do psychs so much I have always thought it would be funny to say I quid psychs
And have people think I say quit instead.
But I was also thinking it would be a better roa for me, as I have no car or pipe/bong/money to get one at the time (except PayPal and this my acid money)
So I decided to quid 3 grams of potent leaf, can't remember the exact specs but I remember the guy said they were well grown and strong.
It was a big mouthful of cud and I held everything in my mouth, spit and all for 15 minutes swallowed the spit and held it for another 15, then swallowed the spit and spit it out. 1 minute later I felt a weird warm sensation and about 15-20 minutes I felt a very close-to-harmaline-but-not presence. Warm, feminine, and playful. I had excellent dreams and organic living fractal visuals.
Any tips for a stronger experience next time? Should be getting a pipe or bong this payday
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howsyournaggerdoin
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If you want a strong experience i recommend smoking a good extract. A cheap small pipe should be enough for that.
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Thats the only way I have taken salvia. I would like to quid some fresh leaves some times but smoking extracts is the full experience TBH.
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Mike4aco
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How strong of an extract? I want a lucid experience but strong. I'm receiving some 5x from the same guy
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SonicTitan


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If you smoke enough or take a big enough hit and hold it in 5x should get you pretty out there. I used to do 20x and 40x when it was legal years ago. Deep salvia trips have little to no lucidity really. Its all very weird/confusing mentally. its like the comprehension side of your brain shuts down in a way haha. I find it has an almost disso type mental high to it.
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For me the quidding experience has always been pretty gentle and subtle. To get the most out of it I would have to actively participate in the experience by doing some kind of meditative or ritual work. If you're after an intense experience smoking it is the way to go.
Any extract above 15x is overkill in my experience -- and 15x can be overkill as well, more often than not. If you go too far out there you come back with the unsettling sense that you just experienced something bizarre and profound, but you couldn't be buggered to remember exactly what.
5x is a sufficient strength to reliably get you there without giving you amnesia. Once you've got your smoking technique down plain leaf will consistently get you there too.
You don't need an expensive pipe or bong or a fancy lighter either. My most reliable smoking apparatus was a steamroller made from a cheap pipe bowl and an empty gatorade bottle.
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howsyournaggerdoin
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Mike4aco said: How strong of an extract? I want a lucid experience but strong. I'm receiving some 5x from the same guy
5x, 10x or 20x is just a measure of the ratio extract:leaf. For example a 5x extract means 0.2g of extract is equivalent to 1g of leaf. The problem here is that this doesnt give you any idea how strong the leaf is the extract was made from. Ive had 10x extracts that were stronger than 40x extracts.
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WhyDidiDoThis
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Was your friend the female or was the salvia lady the female you were speaking of OP?
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Mike4aco
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Salvia was the lady
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impaired420
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Re: Salvia roa [Re: Mike4aco] 1
#23818676 - 11/10/16 08:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The 5x you'll receive is stronger than 10x I've bought from salviadragon, so you should be good.
Gave a guy last night on 600mcg LSD a few bowls of the 5x,he subsequently blacked out and was hallucinating pretty damn hard, he finally came back about 3 minutes into the experience.
The only words he uttered where, "What the fuck", "what is this", "where am I"
I gave him a crash course before he smoked it but salvia cannot be prepared for muahahaha.
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Edited by impaired420 (11/10/16 08:11 AM)
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AstralAndrew
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Mike4aco said: How strong of an extract? I want a lucid experience but strong. I'm receiving some 5x from the same guy
5x, 10x or 20x is just a measure of the ratio extract:leaf. For example a 5x extract means 0.2g of extract is equivalent to 1g of leaf. The problem here is that this doesnt give you any idea how strong the leaf is the extract was made from. Ive had 10x extracts that were stronger than 40x extracts.
Keep in mind that is a very tough expectation to give salvia. Lucidity is not.....pronounced on salvia. It's like you're an animal, like moment to moment wiping of the slate, mentally, then BOOM, Nothingness and infinity everywhere, but it usually takes a few of these experiences to retain much when you come back since the comeup and comedown are so similar in their intensifying dissociation.
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impaired420
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For me salvia is extremely lucid... Well until the fact that you smoked salvia catches up to you.
I've had instances where I forgot I even smoked the salvia and the only reason I remember I did indeed smoke salvia is when I start speaking to inanimate objects in my room then I'm like '....OK I'm tripping balls' but everything seems to real and lucid it's hard to actually remember you're tripping.
Surely larger doses will completely catapult you into salvia space where you won't have any degree of lucidity. The reality of the salvia hallucinations always leave some in awe, my room comes alive like all these entities have been there the whole time
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Mike4aco
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Well i trip often on LSD, dmt, ayahuasca, shrooms, random combos...
Not saying I'm prepared, more like I'm aware of the shredding of ego on other substances. Hopefully that will give me a slight advantage over say, the brand new salvia user
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I've had instances where I forgot I even smoked the salvia...
I haven't touched the stuff in many many years...but the few times I got a proper rip of the stuff, every singe time I instantly forgot I had smoked salvia. Pretty much forget everything including myself, losing the entire plot of who/what/where/why in an instant.
I don't know how one could be far out from salvia and still be able to think, "oh yea, salvia is what I just smoked". It's so fast, dissociating, and chaotic....even when I was coming back down, I was still so damn confused at what was going on or where I was.
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Salvia is merciless yet faithful.
Its a place, idea, or thing, of feminine energy. She will tear you up. Or spare you if speak to her and even beg.
9 times and its still terrifying.
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impaired420
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Re: Salvia roa [Re: openmind] 1
#23826508 - 11/12/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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openmind said:
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I've had instances where I forgot I even smoked the salvia...
I haven't touched the stuff in many many years...but the few times I got a proper rip of the stuff, every singe time I instantly forgot I had smoked salvia. Pretty much forget everything including myself, losing the entire plot of who/what/where/why in an instant.
I don't know how one could be far out from salvia and still be able to think, "oh yea, salvia is what I just smoked". It's so fast, dissociating, and chaotic....even when I was coming back down, I was still so damn confused at what was going on or where I was.
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Surely it's dose dependant. I also have some experience with salvia now. I've been smoking plain leaf pretty regularly for the past 6 months or so and as of lately I have made a 5x extract. I have also used 10x in the past but my 5x is stronger.
I feel like if I where to smoke anything more than 5-10x the entirety of the experience would be lost on me, but after building up a reverse tolerance very very slowly, I've become a bit more accustomed to the smoked salvia experience and can recall most of the events pretty clearly, but it's still easy to get lost in it all and find yourself asking yourself wtf happened.
Funny story, last week I was trying the 5x on my bed, 10 seconds after I exhale the normal pulling warping twisting sensations start and my bed sheets turn into a entity while it's rolling up my wall like a very ramp with me on it.
The bed said pretty angerily to me, 'Excuse me!' As if it was angry I was sitting on it. My headboard grew a face and told me somewhat nonchalantly, 'you're not supposed to be here... '
Anyway, two days later I broke my bed when I sat down on it. Maybe the salvia knew?
I just received some home made salvia tincture from a very very good friend, going to dose about 15-20ml of it tomorrow as recommended and see what happens.
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Mike4aco
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Sweet! I kinda want to quid that sally I got left but waiting till I get a bong. I might let my friend try it and not tell him where its been shhh!
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I smoked the stuff and before i knew it i was staring at these bouncy ball basketball type entities that were hopping in front of my vision. Some would stop and look at me and say "what the hell are you doing here" then continue to bounce along.
Everytime i do it there are these red and blue lines that sorround me on my wall..as if they were holding my whole existence together.
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Bill_Oreilly said: I smoked the stuff and before i knew it i was staring at these bouncy ball basketball type entities that were hopping in front of my vision. Some would stop and look at me and say "what the hell are you doing here" then continue to bounce along.
Everytime i do it there are these red and blue lines that sorround me on my wall..as if they were holding my whole existence together.
WOW, I see those too, for me, they seem to pulsate with some rythm and fly around every meridian of the room's edges/profiles. Very cool
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....I feel like if I where to smoke anything more than 5-10x the entirety of the experience would be lost on me, but after building up a reverse tolerance very very slowly, I've become a bit more accustomed to the smoked salvia experience and can recall most of the events pretty clearly, but it's still easy to get lost in it all and find yourself asking yourself wtf happened....
Nearly 10 years ago, around the last times I smoked the stuff...For me there was a super fine line between "feeling it" and being completely gone into an amnesia inducing experience, it was always either relatively mild or full on OBE. I never had a full on experience with the stuff where I could recall what actually happened or a timeline of events. I can only recall fragments from one particular "break through" that I had on the stuff. I don't recall what strength extract I was working with back then, it wasn't one of those mega high potency ones but wasn't the weakest either.
This is one of the reasons I have interest in dabbling with the stuff again...since the last times I touched the stuff I've had A LOT more experience with various psychedelics, meditation, and just have a more observant and collected & silent mind about my self, I feel that I can take in/observe and recall more from such an experience compared to back then.
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I just received some home made salvia tincture from a very very good friend, going to dose about 15-20ml of it tomorrow as recommended and see what happens....
Right on....
A tincture is the route that I have a lot of interest in when ever I try the stuff again, but I've heard from several folks that for some reason tinctures didn't do anything for them.
Really curious how the tincture works out for you.
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....I feel like if I where to smoke anything more than 5-10x the entirety of the experience would be lost on me, but after building up a reverse tolerance very very slowly, I've become a bit more accustomed to the smoked salvia experience and can recall most of the events pretty clearly, but it's still easy to get lost in it all and find yourself asking yourself wtf happened....
Nearly 10 years ago, around the last times I smoked the stuff...For me there was a super fine line between "feeling it" and being completely gone into an amnesia inducing experience, it was always either relatively mild or full on OBE. I never had a full on experience with the stuff where I could recall what actually happened or a timeline of events. I can only recall fragments from one particular "break through" that I had on the stuff. I don't recall what strength extract I was working with back then, it wasn't one of those mega high potency ones but wasn't the weakest either.
This is one of the reasons I have interest in dabbling with the stuff again...since the last times I touched the stuff I've had A LOT more experience with various psychedelics, meditation, and just have a more observant and collected & silent mind about my self, I feel that I can take in/observe and recall more from such an experience compared to back then.
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I just received some home made salvia tincture from a very very good friend, going to dose about 15-20ml of it tomorrow as recommended and see what happens....
Right on....
A tincture is the route that I have a lot of interest in when ever I try the stuff again, but I've heard from several folks that for some reason tinctures didn't do anything for them.
Really curious how the tincture works out for you.
-OM
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I've never used a tincture, so I can't say if they tend to be efficacious, but I've met quite a few people who don't know how to use the tincture, and I think that might be part of the problem.
You have to hold the tincture under your tongue for quite a long time for all of the salvinorin to be absorbed, and many people just swallow it, which will not produce any effects.
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impaired420
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Re: Salvia roa [Re: healing]
#23829786 - 11/13/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah that's true. You have to let it sit in your mouth for quite a time, 15-20 minutes.. Yuck.
Well I dosed 20ml earlier today... Well I did 15 first and wasn't expecting the taste... I vomited.
I did it again this time I mixed it with coke (30ml mixture) and did 15ml of the mixture for 20 minutes then the other 15ml. I started tripping pretty hard half way through the second dose. Extremely vivid CEV with a full on organic theme, plant silloutes, and such all forming patterns.
I could feel alight bodily sensations but nothing too intense, actually felt like a message. I saw a female vision a few times, lady salvia maybe?
I brushed my teeth and gums + mouth wash before attempting the tincture to aid in absorption.
I feel like people who say the tincture doesnt work don't hold it long enough or they don't have a reverse tolerance built up. I have seen people smoke leaf and 5x extract and not get much effect the first few times then boom, blast off. It's probably the same with bucal administration.
Next time I'll smoke a few leaves a bit before using the tincture and see what happens. Kinda prime the experience in a way.
It was very enjoyable though, like a gully organic slightly less subtle LSD trip in a lot of aspects but also still pretty lucid and strange like salvia.
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Edited by impaired420 (11/13/16 04:46 PM)
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Mike4aco
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Last night I trippedbon doc and LSD. At the peak of the doc i had the genius idea to roll a blunt with 2.5 g shredded salvia and weed.
Holy
Fuck.
If you have a chance watch the music video layers of lies by darkane or loco by coal chamber That was my trip. I had this visor like thing clamped over my face and slices of reality peeled off and sliced up into refractions of completely different ... Stuff happening. Took like 30 minutes to stop tripping that hard! Balls man salvia blunt worked and its not even that efficient
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impaired420
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Yeah I figured you where tripping hard enough that even a mellow ROA like rolled smoked salvia would still ootentiate each other and cause some serious effects he he, just wait until Thursday when you get this extract.
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