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OfflineGizmoleon
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What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries?
    #23815199 - 11/09/16 05:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hi guys and gals! What do you think? Is it stupid to spawn 2 quarts to a full size mono? 45qt aprox. That would be 10qt sub and two qt spawn. It don't seem like a good idea:tongue: Mini mono, trays? What do you suggest?


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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: Gizmoleon]
    #23815215 - 11/09/16 05:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Get a mini tub


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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: PortabellaFella 1]
    #23815245 - 11/09/16 05:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know if the TCs would recommend this but I would go get some voir and germ mix 1 brick coir to 2 quarts germ with 4 to 5 quarts of water hydrate it in a bucket for about an hour mix it all up with some gypsum. Then because I'm a newb I sterlized mine for an hour let cool And then make a mini mono.

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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23815257 - 11/09/16 05:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Isn't 1 brick coir to 2 quarts verm a bit too much for 2 quarts spawn?

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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: AlCapone2k]
    #23815265 - 11/09/16 05:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I would suggest getting smaller tubs. When making monotubs of that size, I have always done four quarts of spawn to that much substrate. I prefer smaller tubs anyway, because you don't lose so much if you have any contamination. Good luck to you!


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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: PNW_Shroomer]
    #23815269 - 11/09/16 05:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah but that's the recipe for cvg lack it in to jars and I think if heard of 1 quart spawn to 2 quarts sub.



I'm new but those are 1 part spawn to 2 parts sub


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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23815279 - 11/09/16 06:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, not sure what I was thinking, what with it being 5:00 AM. Yes, you are right; I always use double the substrate to spawn, and have always had great flushes.


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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: Gizmoleon]
    #23815294 - 11/09/16 06:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Gizmoleon said:
Hi guys and gals! What do you think? Is it stupid to spawn 2 quarts to a full size mono? 45qt aprox. That would be 10qt sub and two qt spawn. It don't seem like a good idea:tongue: Mini mono, trays? What do you suggest?




The tub size depends on the ration you want to use. If you use a 1:1 ratio you will have 2qt spawn + 2qt substrate, means 4qt in total.

I usually do 4qt in a 22qt tote. I think Sterilite has 27qt totes which also would perfectly fits.


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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: shrumzen]
    #23815299 - 11/09/16 06:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I suppose everyone has preferences, and I know they are all valid. I would try different ratios, and see what works best for you! I would recommend, though, doing two sepereate totes, and using a quart for each. Good luck to you!


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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: PNW_Shroomer]
    #23815305 - 11/09/16 06:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I'm using if made 5 tubs since I starts I have 3 mini 30 quart tubs and those 2 54 quart tubs the minis I do a 1 to 1.5 and the big daddy's i did 8 and 8.

Always learning I was reading the amu grow along and man those guys are champs heavy hitting tubs but it's different I guess all the time because one culture may do good in a small grow but terrible in a big tub and vice versa.

It's just fun to grow these little fuckers.

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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23815332 - 11/09/16 06:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Why doesn't anybody go for trays in filterbags oder SGFCs anymore?

I he only has one quart of spawn, the easiest way would be to get 3 quart plastic tray, spawn-subtrate ratio 1:1 and then put it to the filterbag or SGFC.

Or is there any disadvantage? Because I also have a 1/2 quart jar colonized 2 weeks ago and now I'm facing the same problem. To less for even a mini mono so I thought to do these:

1. Make CVG - 1:1 Ratio
2. Spawn to Bulk in a small 2-3 quart Tray
3. Put the whole tray in a unicorn filter bag and fruit it

So something like a self-made growkit.

Possible? :smile:


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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: AlCapone2k]
    #23815346 - 11/09/16 06:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I love doing four-quart trays, especially if I don't have much spawn. I wrap the bottom with electrical tape, case the rye grain, and let it colonize. Afterwards, I put it in my greenhouse, fit with a warm-air humidifier. I once got 7 ounces of dry 'shrooms from just four of the four-quart tubs. My favorite thing to do, outside of larger tubs.


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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: PNW_Shroomer]
    #23815354 - 11/09/16 07:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Do you use CVG for this mini trays?

Do you hydrate your spawn before mixing with the bulk subtrate (e.g. put Water into the spawn jars and then tilt it out)?

Do you cover the trays during colonization time and if yes, does your lids or trays have any kind of filter?


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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: AlCapone2k]
    #23815375 - 11/09/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have never hydrated my spawn, no, but I just pour about a pint of spawn into the bottom, then cover it with some sterilized cow manure. Nothing really fancy to my method. After preparing it, I wrap the bottom in black electrical tape, to prevent pinning from the side. I poke holes in the top, as well, then cover them with micropore tape. After the substrate is fully colonized, I take the lid off, then put the pans inside my greenhouse.


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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: PNW_Shroomer]
    #23815419 - 11/09/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Why not g2g those and you'll have enough spawn for 2 full tubs in a week?


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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: PNW_Shroomer]
    #23815439 - 11/09/16 07:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Fine, I think I will do the same with my half quart jar. But I will use CVG instead of Cow Manure, because I don't want to mess around with pasteurizing :smile:

And instead of the greenhouse, which I don't have, I'll use a unicorn bag with some perlite :smile:


@krypto2000

I have some jars colonizing at the moment and they will be ready for spawn in at least ten days I think but it will be my first grow so I don't want to risk to loose all of them in a big monotub. Therefore I thought starting with a small tray in an unicorn bag could be smart for the first grow to get some shrooms as fast as possible :smile:


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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: krypto2000]
    #23815443 - 11/09/16 07:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Why not g2g those and you'll have enough spawn for 2 full tubs in a week?







Thats what I'd do, and itll let you know if your spawn is clean and healthy and wont take longer then two weeks if its a cube

And DONT STERILIZE your substrate


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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: spore-ty]
    #23815453 - 11/09/16 07:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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spore-ty said:
And DONT STERILIZE your substrate




Depends what kind substrate you use. You can sterilize coir and vermiculite. It is not necessary but it is OK to sterilize it. If substrate contains manure or straw proper pasteurization is what you want to keep the good microbes alive.


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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: AlCapone2k]
    #23815458 - 11/09/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No, I will jsut use bucket tek for the cvg substrate.

How can G2G help me to see if my spawn is clean, since all the jars are lost if the master isn't clean?


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Re: What to do with two quarts colonized rye berries? [Re: enlightenment]
    #23815466 - 11/09/16 08:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You ca sterilize it all but its not beneficial such as when I use compost  if I sterilize it and spawn Ill have trich a day or two after i introduce fae

But if i pasteurize I dont get contams you need those beneficial organisms in your substrate

In fact trich outside isnt contamination but a beneficial organism


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