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Offlinehostileuniverse
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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: lines]
    #23886244 - 12/01/16 11:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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lines said:
It is surreal to see leftists passionate about Hillary, especially to see ones in Portland protesting for her. Imagine that: Portland anarchists protesting in support of Hillary. These are the same people who have been active for over a decade protesting all sorts of wars. And all of the sudden they are willing to ignore the fact that Hillary is a warmonger.




Liberal ideology TRUMPS logic


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: Crumist]
    #23894845 - 12/04/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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akira_akuma said:

no, it's just that leftists are sympathetic to people.




That is beautiful and "noble" if we remove the affiliation of to slavery once upon a time. It is fine but, my tax dollars should not be allocated to single mother victimhood, abortions, child support or the parade of free money that the left pushes. Any call out on the absolute abomination of the corrupt system is matched with "sexist" or cries of "Racism."

Its okay. Donald Trump is going to make America great again. Wait wut?
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Crumist said:
fascists will hang first




Lets hope.

I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: finalexplosion]
    #23894855 - 12/04/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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That is beautiful and "noble" if we remove the affiliation of to slavery once upon a time. It is fine but, my tax dollars should not be allocated to single mother victimhood, abortions, child support or the parade of free money that the left pushes. Any call out on the absolute abomination of the corrupt system is matched with "sexist" or cries of "Racism."




Federal law trumps state law. :shrug: your taxes aren't your money...they're your taxes...it's the governments money; when you send it to them, it becomes "not your's" and becomes "their's". :shrug: i know it sucks...but logic cannot be thrown away for the sake of feelings. you think Trump is gonna change the entire federal government? LOL

OK.

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I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."




yeah, you run that bureau. let's see how well you can allocate anything.


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23894902 - 12/04/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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your taxes aren't your money...they're your taxes...it's the governments money




This is the fallacy of people who push big government

This is how baseline budgeting is done, this is how they can define an increase as a budget "cut"

It's nonsense and the whole notion is offensive

***Even in Washington, the elected officials have a duty to spend our money wisely and judiciously


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #23894919 - 12/04/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
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your taxes aren't your money...they're your taxes...it's the governments money




This is the fallacy of people who push big government

This is how baseline budgeting is done, this is how they can define an increase as a budget "cut"

It's nonsense and the whole notion is offensive

***Even in Washington, the elected officials have a duty to spend our money wisely and judiciously




Listening to akira try to justify government is like listening to Peter Gibbons trying to justify stealing.



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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: Great Scott]
    #23895227 - 12/04/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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akira_akuma said:Federal law trumps state law. :shrug: your taxes aren't your money...they're your taxes...it's the governments money; when you send it to them, it becomes "not your's" and becomes "their's". :shrug: i know it sucks...but logic cannot be thrown away for the sake of feelings. you think Trump is gonna change the entire federal government? LOL

OK.




Hey, I'm hoping he does make positive change, I just doubt it



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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23895287 - 12/04/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
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your taxes aren't your money...they're your taxes...it's the governments money




This is the fallacy of people who push big government

This is how baseline budgeting is done, this is how they can define an increase as a budget "cut"

It's nonsense and the whole notion is offensive

***Even in Washington, the elected officials have a duty to spend our money wisely and judiciously




+1

You got those adverse to competition that need daddy government to carry them. I have shown a correlation again with intelligence or a lack there of any, reason, logic, and evidence to support the argument.

Money has simply not been spent wisely. It is just taken as law that its government money, taxed, and taken long before you ever see it. Its very authoritarian. The same with respect to fallout in marriage, in child custody, and alimony. You essentially unleash the dogs of the state to extract resources.

It is unbelievable the lack of freely thinking individuals but, it is good to see others have their eyes open and are awake.


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23895367 - 12/04/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
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your taxes aren't your money...they're your taxes...it's the governments money




This is the fallacy of people who push big government

This is how baseline budgeting is done, this is how they can define an increase as a budget "cut"

It's nonsense and the whole notion is offensive

***Even in Washington, the elected officials have a duty to spend our money wisely and judiciously



the notion of increases as a budget cut is nonsense...the notion that you can control every individuals flow of tax dollars, personally, is also nonsense.
either stop taxing people entirely, or fund a NEW bureau to allocate individual tax dollars, and coordinate with taxpayers, individually.

which just costs more money.

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It is unbelievable the lack of freely thinking individuals but, it is good to see others have their eyes open and are awake.



bullshittery.

you're not a free thinking individual. you're another zealot.


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23895383 - 12/04/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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akira_akuma said:you're not a free thinking individual. you're another zealot.




Says the dude pushing participation ribbons. lol


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: finalexplosion] * 1
    #23895390 - 12/04/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Says the dude pushing participation ribbons. lol



see, this is why you're a tribalistic zealot. i've never pushed, or condone, or adhered to the concept of, participation ribbons or medals or awards.


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23895403 - 12/04/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Read between the lines, kleptoacceptrix.


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: Great Scott]
    #23895405 - 12/04/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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PeyoteZen said:
Read between the lines, kleptoacceptrix.



i'd ask you to do the same. you either do away with taxes, or you create a new bureau to handle what you flagrants are advocating. or just socialise municipal funds. :shrug: but that would be WRRRROOOONG? right?


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23896119 - 12/05/16 08:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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you either do away with taxes




Why is it always all or nothing with you people?:facepalm:

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create a new bureau




Government is quite large enough, we don't need another useless bureaucracy wasting tax dollars

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just socialise municipal funds




:facepalm3:


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23898679 - 12/05/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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finalexplosion said:

Says the dude pushing participation ribbons. lol



see, this is why you're a tribalistic zealot. i've never pushed, or condone, or adhered to the concept of, participation ribbons or medals or awards.



finalexplosion is like a new hostileuniverse.  Make believe what liberals think, then make believe they're smarter than liberals because the stuff they just made up about them is so stupid.

Stram man anyone?


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23898724 - 12/06/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
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you either do away with taxes




Why is it always all or nothing with you people?:facepalm:




i miss the days when i could just say "you're an idiot" and be done.

it's not "always" "all or nothing" with me. never has it been. i'm just telling you if you don't create a bureau to deal with each persons taxes individually, then there is no way to go about doing it, which is why your constant insistence that your taxes go towards what you want them specifically to go towards, while disregarding the fact that your tax dollars are pooled with everyone else's tax dollars is stupid. it's always a COLLECTIVE decision, whether you like it or not, concerning where tax dollars are allocated.

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create a new bureau




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Government is quite large enough, we don't need another useless bureaucracy wasting tax dollars



surprise surprise, that was my point, genius. :facepalm: if only you could read, and not cherrypick from mishandled quotations. i even said, clearly, "which just costs more money." did you miss that part where i clarified my statement with "it costs more money". that's the BAD part. it costs more money. :facepalm:
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try READING.
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just socialise municipal funds




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:facepalm3:




again, zero choices realistically made by hostileuniverse. :facepalm3:


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23899497 - 12/06/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Well you're first idea, "do away with All taxes" is retarded because it's "all or nothing"

Your second idea to create a new bureaucracyis retarded because we already elect people to handle these things, they should be compete

So maybe you can elaborate  on your idea of a "socialized municipal funds" :lol:


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23901589 - 12/06/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

the ideas that you have are precluded by 1 and/or 2.
and 3 is a matter of debate. do you like working for corporate entities and having no ownership of your work?

ask yourself.


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23901595 - 12/06/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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akira_akuma said:
the ideas that you have are precluded by 1 and/or 2, you fucking wet rag.

and 3 is a matter of debate. do you like working for corporate entities and having no ownership of your work?

ask yourself.




Corporation pays the employee. Hopefully, not in participation ribbons lol


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: finalexplosion]
    #23901673 - 12/06/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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finalexplosion said:
Corporation pays the employee. Hopefully, not in participation ribbons lol



That's pretty much how things have gone since the 80's.

"You're making a minimum wage here at McDonald's, which is far less than the real minimum wage of the 1960's, but here's an 'employee of the month' award instead of money."


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Re: Trump Wins!!! [Re: finalexplosion]
    #23901686 - 12/06/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Corporation pays the employee. Hopefully, not in participation ribbons lol



we aren't talking about what you think we are talking about, we aren't talking about crud-for-brains bullshit that you can pull out of your ass. we're talking about how little HU understands the concept of taxes and what follows the payment of taxes to the government.

either you want to have someone track your individual payments, in order to have to it go towards what you want it to go towards, which goes for every individual too; or you let the government do it's proposed job and put the tax dollars where the COUNTRY wishes it to go towards; this is what elections are for.

and some corporations pay their OWNERS. but you couldn't dare comprehend the concept, because dildos. that's why. dildos. you love 'em.


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