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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23819239 - 11/10/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone see Obama's speech about transitioning power to Trump? It was actually pretty cool. Obama was like "I'm transitioning power over to Trump despite how much I disagree with him"

It's awesome that no one ever agrees in politics. Obama does look pretty much like superman though leaving office without a scratch. I'm glad I don't have that job. You are like everybody's target as a president. I mean I never liked Obama but seeing him on his way out looks like a different approach compared to seeing him into his second year doing not much but making ridiculous promises.

You can see this look of serious defeat on Obama's face though. As though he can't believe he has to hand the seat over to Trump


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: Crystal G]
    #23819310 - 11/10/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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My memeory is irrelevant, Obama had majority of house and senate for his first two years, that's when they passed O'shitcare,  not one republican voted for it

***democrats could have passed single payer, they didn't,




LOL, wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/110th_United_States_Congress#Party_summary

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111th_United_States_Congress#Party_summary

Democrats were only higher in both houses in the 112th Congress, from the years 2011 to 2012. Which doesn't even matter, because Obamacare was passed in 2010, which means that he was outnumbered by Republicans partially until then.



Please do your research properly next time.




You do your research, Your lies are easily debunked

[quoteq]The House passed the Senate bill with a 219–212 vote on March 21, 2010, with 34 Democrats and all 178 Republicans voting against it. The next day, Republicans introduced legislation to repeal the bill. Obama signed ACA into law on March 23, 2010.




Your own link shows clear democrat majority,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/110th_United_States_Congress#Party_summary

***not sure if you're that dumb or just think the rest of us are




Your claim was that they our number in both houses ever since Obama was in office, which I proved was a false claim. I said Obama was "partially" out outnumbered because there were times one house had more or less demoats depending on the year. But it was always for a short period of time since it fluctuates.




No, my claim was that Obamacare was passed by democrats, and only Democrats, they had majority in both houses, GOP couldn't stop them from passing anything

when you claimed it was GOP that stopped them from passing single payer, democrats could have, so don't blame GOP for YOUR parties failings

***maybe learn to read


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: koods] * 1
    #23819350 - 11/10/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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lol Russian embassy says it has been in regular contact with the trump campaign. Putin is described to have unreasonable expectations about trump.

Trump isn't going make it a year



http://www.cnn.com/election/results
Trump won the popular vote. It's disgusting to me that even though Trump is supported by a majority of American voters that the media is still trying to push the false narrative he was elected by racists. FUCK the inciteful media.


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23819427 - 11/10/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Here's something that'll stick in the craw of some...

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Donald Trump’s unlikely rise to power is providing a shot in the arm for global financial markets, with stocks and metals rallying on optimism that his fiscal-stimulus plans will boost the economy. Bonds tumbled.




http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-09/asian-shares-to-join-global-rebound-after-trump-win-bonds-sink


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
    #23819433 - 11/10/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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And again... why in an era where people lie to try and 'win points', would you just accept a story a gospel with no proof?

A persons story is quite useless as proof of anything, even if they are your friend. Or my friend.

And give it a moments thought... where did the family members get the story from? The original story teller. Only one person needs to 'be in on the fake story'. The rest just need to believe it.




I find it very sad that when one of your good friends tells a story about a family member being assaulted, your very first reaction is to go, "You're a liar," simply because the story doesn't coincide with your political beliefs.

Whereas if this were a story about one of your conservative friends getting beaten up by Hillary supporters, of course you would have believed that without any evidence whatsoever. :rolleyes:


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23819441 - 11/10/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Here's something that'll stick in the craw of some...

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Donald Trump’s unlikely rise to power is providing a shot in the arm for global financial markets, with stocks and metals rallying on optimism that his fiscal-stimulus plans will boost the economy. Bonds tumbled.




http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-09/asian-shares-to-join-global-rebound-after-trump-win-bonds-sink




Trump's gonna make the whole damn world great again

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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: Crystal G]
    #23819448 - 11/10/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't expect anyone else to believe it without proof and I certainly wouldn't use it as an argument.

So roll your eyes as you wish but try harder next time. Expecting someone to take the word of a person they don't know and will likely never meet is foolish.


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23819763 - 11/10/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I wouldn't expect anyone else to believe it without proof and I certainly wouldn't use it as an argument.

So roll your eyes as you wish but try harder next time. Expecting someone to take the word of a person they don't know and will likely never meet is foolish.




You obviously must have some shitty low-life friends with questionable integrity, because if any one of my good friends said they were assaulted by a group of men or something--regardless of whether the assaulters were Trump supporters or Hillary supporters--I would believe their story without requiring documentation.

I mean, that's a little fucking ludicrous when one of your FRIENDS complains about having a crime committed against them, and your first reaction is, "You must be lying." All because the politics doesn't fit with your narrative.

If one of my conservative friends came out and said they were assaulted by a group of crazy Democrats, I would 100% believe them. I wouldn't accuse them of making shit up for attention. Because you would either have to be a bad person, or a mentally ill person, or a pathological liar, or some overly dramatic histrionic attention seeker to do something like that.

Either you're a shitty person or you have shitty friends. But my mind does not go there if it's one of my friends. A stranger I don't know, sure, I would question it. But one of your friends? What kind of fucking friend are you? Or what kind of friends do you have that you think would lie about something like that?


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: Crystal G]
    #23819785 - 11/10/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You must be having trouble with your eyes today.

I didn't say I wouldn't believe a friend.  What I did say was...

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Expecting someone to take the word of a person they don't know and will likely never meet is foolish.




Which is a far cry from what you're saying. But that's what you do.


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23819787 - 11/10/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You asked me earlier, "And again... why in an era where people lie to try and 'win points', would you just accept a story a gospel with no proof?"

Basically you asked why I would accept my friend's story as true, as if I should demand documentation from them or something. :bored: Who the hell does that?


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23819813 - 11/10/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I predict that Trump will have the lowest approval rating of any president.  He has all the rope he needs to hang himself.


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23819836 - 11/10/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You asked me earlier, "And again... why in an era where people lie to try and 'win points', would you just accept a story a gospel with no proof?"

Basically you asked why I would accept my friend's story as true, as if I should demand documentation from them or something. :bored: Who the hell does that?





You said...
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Sorry but this is something that one of my OWN FRIENDS just posted on Facebook. She is serving in the military for close to 7 years now. I had no idea this happened to her brother until I read this just now.




So your friend wasn't assaulted. Her brother was. Your friend was merely passing on a story her brother told her, which may or may not be true. Perhaps he grabbed the ass of someones girlfriend. Perhaps he started something which someone else finished. Perhaps he actually was assaulted out of the blue. Neither you or I know. Why would I accept the story of your girlfriend?

Now if your friend told you directly that was assaulted, that's a different matter. Perhaps a course in logic/following along would benefit you.

Besides, people, including friends, sometimes lie.

Another swing and a miss for you. Perhaps try it with someone whos reading/comprehension skills are as feeble as yours seem to be.


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23819869 - 11/10/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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So your friend wasn't assaulted. Her brother was. Your friend was merely passing on a story her brother told her, which may or may not be true. Perhaps he grabbed the ass of someones girlfriend. Perhaps he started something which someone else finished. Perhaps he actually was assaulted out of the blue. Neither you or I know. Why would I accept the story of your girlfriend?

Now if your friend told you directly that was assaulted, that's a different matter. Perhaps a course in logic/following along would benefit you.

Besides, people, including friends, sometimes lie.




Dude. You're not making any sense. She said this happened BEFORE the election, meaning this happened at least a couple days ago or even earlier. She likely visited her brother in the hospital, which is why everybody in the comments section has been updating about his well-being at the hospital. People mentioned his hospital stay, it's not like everybody was completely shocked and surprised at what happened.

Seriously, at this point you're just reaching to find ANY reason to not believe a story that is in fact not even that far-fetched, and it's pathetic. What makes you think I should believe your word over theirs, which is at this point, mere conjecture, considering you never even read the comments thread, you don't know any of these people, in fact you know much less about the situation than I do.

Think about it. If somebody is lying, they're much more likely to say, "I was the one that was assaulted," not "My brother was assaulted," and they likely wouldn't get 6 of their family members to lie about visiting him in the hospital, I mean that's a whole lot of people to get involved in your little lie. Use that logic you claim to have.

I'm willing to concede that perhaps it could have all started from an altercation that maybe wasn't related to his racial identity, but to outright say it was a lie, you would pretty much have to believe that person is a scumbag of some kind to think that. Her brother is in the military just like her, it's not like he's some dodgy Black Panther with questionable political motives.


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23819875 - 11/10/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I said nothing about when it happened. Are you drunk?

As I don't know your friends brother, I have no reason to believe him. Your reason seems to be... because my friend says something happened to her brother.


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What makes you think I should believe your word over theirs




You mean besides the fact that I haven't given you my word on anything? Besides the fact that people lie to achieve a goal?


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they're much more likely to say




They're much more likely to say what they think will benefit them or sway others to their side.


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: Crystal G] * 2
    #23820071 - 11/10/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Tell your friend to stop lying. There are cases of people lying about hate crimes every where.


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: Webster10]
    #23820114 - 11/10/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Tell your friend to stop lying. There are cases of people lying about hate crimes every where.




Not the same, in my friend's case the police were called and the assaulter was arrested and charged with crimes.

What makes you think this sort of thing is so far-fetched? This is exactly the same type of shit that happened with Brexit. If you knew anything about recent history, you'd know that it is simply repeating itself.


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: Crystal G]
    #23820250 - 11/10/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
And again... why in an era where people lie to try and 'win points', would you just accept a story a gospel with no proof?

A persons story is quite useless as proof of anything, even if they are your friend. Or my friend.

And give it a moments thought... where did the family members get the story from? The original story teller. Only one person needs to 'be in on the fake story'. The rest just need to believe it.




I find it very sad that when one of your good friends tells a story about a family member being assaulted, your very first reaction is to go, "You're a liar," simply because the story doesn't coincide with your political beliefs.

Whereas if this were a story about one of your conservative friends getting beaten up by Hillary supporters, of course you would have believed that without any evidence whatsoever. :rolleyes:





This has been happening to me all day today. My friend's sister was called a nigger on the street in rural Central PA yesterday and then another friend of mine was told "enjoy the camps, faggot!" on their way to work in Chelsea, NYC yesterday. Conservatives and negating, negating, negating that this is happening.

There's a link floating around with all the hateful, racist, sexist, xenophobic nonsense from Trump supporters since the outcome of the election was revealed. 

Denying that this is happening or saying that the people are LYING about these experiences is the direct result of WHITE MALE PRIVILEGE.


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: yogabunny] * 6
    #23820266 - 11/10/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

White male privilege :doublefacepalm:

Why are mods allowed to be racist?


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: Webster10]
    #23820285 - 11/10/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Why are mods allowed to be racist?



Dude, stop being such a Politically Correct SJW about it, geez. :lol:


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Re: President Trump - Trump has won [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23820286 - 11/10/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Why are conservatives so willfully blind to their own racism?  Arrogance?  Ignorance?  Injudiciousness?  Life is full of unanswered questions.


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