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Anonymous #3

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #23848420 - 11/19/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Aya pushers have a terrible sense of irony.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #3] * 1
    #23848609 - 11/19/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

90% of the :underage: recommending it have never done it.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #23854101 - 11/21/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, I wouldn't buy into the ayahuasca cure all bs. Ayahuasca doesn't touch dopamine at all and that's what your problem is. Your dopamine receptors are down regulated and when you quit you may be depressed for a long time. It's going to be really hard, but it is possible and it'll be worth it to quit. Think of it this way. Your life is in good shape now, but if you keep using you may end up losing it all. Get out while you're ahead. You can't use meth for the rest of your life anyway.

My advice is to quit and cut any and all meth users or dealers out of your life. Delete their numbers. When you quit, your brain will miss that dopamine and you WILL seek it out if you have a way. Go to the doctor if you get depressed and you may even have to take antidepressants to get through it. The hardest part about addiction is realizing that it's not about willpower. Willpower and your reward system are one in the same. Your reward system is out of whack and you need help to get over that hump to break the cycle. If it were as simple as just convincing yourself to not use then there would be no addicts.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #23854976 - 11/21/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ayahuasca is actually both a serotonin and dopamine agonist at the same time.
Http://www.ayahuasca.com/science/the-ayahuasca-effect


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Anonymous #7

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #23855161 - 11/21/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I stand corrected. Go ahead and give it a shot if you want to. I hope it works for you. Normally I would never suggest someone take anti depressants, but some people need it in extreme circumstances.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #23865344 - 11/25/16 06:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I am well aware that one hit of something is not going to magically change me.
I smoked weed for most of my young adult years untill I discovered meth , then I was no longer interested in weed.  Now when I smoke weed it feels like the weed is trying to pull me back to get me away from the meth. It puts me in a totally different frame of mind that makes me realize how fucked up I am from the meth.  But the meth keeps winning , it's like an auto pilot type thing that I can't turn off.  It's got such a grip on me and I can't break away from it !


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Anonymous #8

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #23916065 - 12/11/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

best of luck to you. After nearly 20 years of opiates i was able to get off of them it was the hardest thing ever. I got faith in you though. If you set your mind to it you can do it. Good luck


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Anonymous #9

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #23936679 - 12/17/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm with you man. Heroin is my drug of choice. I don't have any answers for you however... I've tried rehab 4 times.. just saying you're not alone


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Anonymous #10

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #23945183 - 12/21/16 04:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

idk dmt in lower doses over longer periods seems to really make me have some pretty deep thoughts in regards to my life, family, friends etc..


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Anonymous #5

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #23950931 - 12/23/16 06:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
I am well aware that one hit of something is not going to magically change me.




I bet you thought exactly that when you had your first hit of meff.

I understand exactly where you are having once been there myself, stuck in the loop. After using I would feel like shit, physically and emotionally, and I would sincerely swear to myself to never use again. I would get through the days of depression, thoughts of suicide and lack of energy/motivation. However, every time I was feeling better I would convince myself that it was a good idea to get high again, and the whole loop started over.

It was as though the person getting high wasn't me at all, and the real me was only in the drivers seat when I was coming down. It left me feeling helpless and like i had no control over the 'me' that restarts the loop.

I'm sure you understand the feeling I'm talking about. This went on over and over until I felt completely empty, void of all feelings and emotions. The world seemed grey and all happiness and joy had vanished.

I had been thinking about suicide to the point where I scared the shit out of myself at how seriously I was considering it. This was when I started reading about DMT. I figured what the hell I'm already contemplating suicide, what's the worst that can happen and decided to make my own.

Im not going to describe the trip, as it is virtually impossible, but when I 'came back' a few minutes later I was me again, the old me that had been lost for some time. I was overwhelmed with such happiness and joy, a barrage of emotions that I had not felt for so long. The world, my life and everything that had once been so bland and empty was once again full of color and energy.

The greatest thing the experience gave me was a change of perspective that was not possible to achieve while I was stuck in the 'meth loop', along with a strong positive mindset and a confidence like no other I made a few changes in my life and stopped using meth, not because I knew I had to but because I legitimately wanted to.

I haven't used meth in just over 12 months now and the changes that I made didn't feel forced or pressured, but had me full of excitement and anticipation.

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that the same will happen for you, however sometimes a change of perspective can be more powerful than you'd expect. DMT is the perfect spark for an extinguished flame.


Edited by Anonymous (12/23/16 06:53 AM)


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Anonymous #11

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #23953169 - 12/24/16 12:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #4 said:

I believe one of the best things a addict can do for themselves is to learn all they can about their problem...




If one wants to know why they do drugs, they need to look at their motivation for intoxication.

The motivation for the behavior is the key to understanding the behavior.

Great comments and links. Many dispute the powerless theory.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #23983698 - 01/05/17 11:39 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

You can't just stop an addiction... some can, not all...
You might be able to stop for while but sooner or later you're might have a relapse.

I would recommend continue using(just enough to keep you stable)... but lower your dosage every week or two


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Anonymous #11

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #23988052 - 01/06/17 10:50 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

It sounds like you've adopted the "I am powerless over my actions" perspective.

Once you adopt this perspective, you cripple your power to change.

The term "relapse" is bullshit cult-speak that means "a decision to use"

Every action is preceded by a decision. Don't believe what the cult tells you.


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Anonymous #9

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #24123525 - 02/27/17 12:20 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

"motivation for intoxication"... I hate that bullshit... I don't understand it.
What do you mean, understanding the motivation is the key to understanding the addiction?
That's some bs rehab cookie cutter terminology/saying.
Who needs a reason or motivation to do heroin, other than it feels awesome and makes you feel happy and euphoric?
Dosnt everybody want to feel good, happy and euphoric?
doesnt change the fact that its a problem and destroys my life


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Anonymous #11

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #24127250 - 02/28/17 09:41 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

You "hate" the idea of investigating the root cause of self-harming behavior?

I've never met a junkie or a drunk who was "happy".    Have you?

The gambler who loses everything isn't "enjoying" the "euphoria" of poker.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #24127641 - 03/01/17 01:38 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Anon9 needs ayahuasca stat


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Anonymous #2

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #24127652 - 03/01/17 01:57 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

It is a problem. It's living in bondage. It is unpleasant when something, anything has control over you.


There is long term sobriety in AA, not so much in N/A.

My problem with AA is they approach it as a spiritual disease instead of a mental disease. You can't talk someone out of addiction.  It's both really. One thing all addicts have in common is disconnection.  Not only from people but from the divine. So yes it is a spiritual disease but it's more a genetic brain malady.

I don't know the answer. I've stopped using meff many times in my life but always substitute it with something else.  I hate the dreams but they go away eventually. Mostly.


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Anonymous #13

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #24132283 - 03/02/17 08:57 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

D-Amphetamine IR and Lisdexamphetamine to tapper.

Lobeline and emoxypine.

L tyrosine, melatonin and turmeric extract throughout.

I don't care how long you've been indulging in brain damage, it's not hard to quit, stop making excuses.


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Anonymous #11

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #24132548 - 03/02/17 11:22 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:

My problem with AA is they approach it as a spiritual disease instead of a mental disease.
One thing all addicts have in common is disconnection.  Not only from people but from the divine.
So yes it is a spiritual disease but it's more a genetic brain malady.




To be isolated and disconnected is a "genetic brain malady"?

To fall in love with intoxication or gambling is a disease?

Becoming obsessed with something is not a biological defect.


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Anonymous #14

Re: Addiction [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #24134273 - 03/03/17 05:55 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Ya'll need to get in touch with your spirit animals. :cookiemonster:


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