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official #didntvote thread 1
#23814697 - 11/08/16 11:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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#didntvote #dontcare #hashtag #whocaresabouttheelection #grabherbythepussy #imonlyhereforthelegalweed #donaldduckisadrunk #hilaryisadumbcuntwhokillspeople #trumpisjustsomedrunkguy
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: Sheekle] 3
#23814711 - 11/08/16 11:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: daytripper05] 7
#23814714 - 11/08/16 11:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You shouldn't be proud You should be berated.
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: daytripper05] 1
#23814720 - 11/09/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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#hillacuntlost #thefixersknowwereontothemsotheyletthisonego
I didn't get to vote on this one (being outside the U.S right now), but I would have voted for Gary Johnson, had I had the chance. He's a moron too, but I want third party funding.
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: ruaware]
#23814722 - 11/09/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ruaware said: The way i see it, we had two terrible options. But now at least taxes will go down
Nah they won't.
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: ruaware]
#23814725 - 11/09/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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did u find out the results yet Sheekle? Or are u living in total bliss?
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: Sheekle]
#23814730 - 11/09/16 12:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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#trumpwon
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: ruaware] 2
#23814781 - 11/09/16 12:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fuck you, fuck them, fuck all of it. I hate every single fucking person for this.
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: King Klick]
#23814860 - 11/09/16 01:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you know that the government is fraudulent and corrupt, and you vote anyways; you validate the fraudulence and corruption
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#23814861 - 11/09/16 01:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I didn't get to vote on this one (being outside the U.S right now), but I would have voted for Gary Johnson, had I had the chance. He's a moron too, but I want third party funding.
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: Sheekle]
#23815061 - 11/09/16 03:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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#23815083 - 11/09/16 03:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: my3rdeye]
#23815089 - 11/09/16 03:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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#greenpartyisgoingtooverthrowthegovernmentusingdrugsnotguns
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: Eggtimer]
#23815119 - 11/09/16 04:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you know that the government is fraudulent and corrupt, and you vote anyways; you validate the fraudulence and corruption
That is terrible logic... By not voting you are making it easier to rig the system and continue this cycle of fraudulence and corruption.
At the very least voting 3rd party could help get them more funding and hopefully a better chance in future elections...
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: my3rdeye]
#23815406 - 11/09/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hope trump helps fuck things up enough, and points to congress enough, we do away with the whole damn thing. #anarchybitchz
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: Sheekle]
#23815429 - 11/09/16 07:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: Webster10]
#23815436 - 11/09/16 07:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So any new advances in psychedelic research?
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#butthurt
There are klansmen walking around my city right now. Of like 40000. So you can fuck off right now with that childs play. You idiots fucked us.
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: King Klick] 1
#23815691 - 11/09/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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dear lord that's so fucked.
That's the biggest problem with all of this, electing someone who is associated with racism, sexism, bigotry and xenophobia just gives an excuse to people who think that way to openly express it and pretend like their way of life is on the rise, mainly white men who are racist and fucked up.
Let's just start underground revolutionary operations which involve psychedelics and government agitating while we ride this thing out!
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haha wtf? thats gotta be a joke
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#23815791 - 11/09/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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A girl can dream you know
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anarchy is retarded, all the bad guys would eat u up and spit u back out if anarchy existed
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: King Klick]
#23815812 - 11/09/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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King Klick said: There are klansmen walking around my city right now. Of like 40000. So you can fuck off right now with that childs play. You idiots fucked us.
bullshit, that would be every klansman in the US
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: Chakra Shock] 1
#23815834 - 11/09/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Chakra Shock said: dear lord that's so fucked.
That's the biggest problem with all of this, electing someone who is associated with racism, sexism, bigotry and xenophobia just gives an excuse to people who think that way to openly express it and pretend like their way of life is on the rise, mainly white men who are racist and fucked up.
Did you forget that is was Obama who created the racial tensions based on a false premise?
He convicted Zimmerman and Wilson before the facts were in, he created the riots with his irresponsible rhetoric.
Who assaults innocent white people, who attacked cops, who burned down their own cities? It wasn't "white men who are racist".
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: Sheekle]
#23815841 - 11/09/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: anarchy is retarded, all the bad guys would eat u up and spit u back out if anarchy existed
Yes yes. True anarchists really are dreamers.
I just want an overhaul on gov't reforms.
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: qman]
#23815842 - 11/09/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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believe what you want to man, but my experience has shown me otherwise. I don't blame problems in this world from the top down, I know they are occurring on the ground level.
Idgaf about Trump, it's just that racist people seem to think of him as their representative.
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Chakra Shock said: believe what you want to man, but my experience has shown me otherwise. I don't blame problems in this world from the top down, I know they are occurring on the ground level.
Idgaf about Trump, it's just that racist people seem to think of him as their representative.
"it's that racist people seem to think of him as their representative"
The same can be said with Obama, where were his supporters yesterday? They cost Hillary the election.
I can tell you can thing, BLM isn't going to be visiting the White House every two weeks anymore.
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: Sheekle]
#23816385 - 11/09/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: anarchy is retarded, all the bad guys would eat u up and spit u back out if anarchy existed
Yeah we would would be a blast, literally.
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I love it when people say 'you've got no right to complain if you don't vote'.
I see it the other way round - you've go no right to complain if you did vote, since you helped put these pricks in power - which is why I never vote.
The whole system is shot to shit, I want no part of it.
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Who ever needed a right to complain anyway? What are they gonna do? Cry about it?
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Jokeshopbeard said: I love it when people say 'you've got no right to complain if you don't vote'.
I see it the other way round - you've go no right to complain if you did vote, since you helped put these pricks in power - which is why I never vote.
The whole system is shot to shit, I want no part of it.
That makes no sense at all. The worst thing that voters do is elect their candidate and not criticize them. This is how we end up with party line politics and with such a divided nation as we have it now.
Everyone needs to hold the people they elect into office accountable. If they don't do a good job, vote someone else into office. I intend to be Trump harshest critic should he fail to deliver on his promises.
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Jokeshopbeard said: I love it when people say 'you've got no right to complain if you don't vote'.
I see it the other way round - you've go no right to complain if you did vote, since you helped put these pricks in power - which is why I never vote.
The whole system is shot to shit, I want no part of it.

Explain how voting "helps put these pricks in power"? Either it is fixed in which case voting doesn't matter or it isn't in which case if everyone had voted third party we could have avoided the giant douche and the turd sandwich... By not voting you are accepting things how they are and essentially letting them continue this shit show... Way to help make a difference.
If everyone just ignores the system becouse it is such shit it is just going to get worse...
Voting takes very little time, seriously people. If more people actually wanted to be a part of it we could actually try and reform politics.
If everyone just doesn't vote or give a shit how are things going to get better? That is a lose lose simply becouse you couldn't take a little time out of your day...
For a psychedelic forum there sure a lot of complacent whiners...
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This is kinda how I feel. Do you think the electoral college would try to say they represented the majority if 10 percent of their state voted? I'm sure they would
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We need very serious anticorruption laws and political party reforms to even have a chance at actually changing things. We need state laws in regards to ballots to be regulated in order for third party to even have a chance to win (many states have strict requirements on who is allowed on the ballot and who is a valid write in.)
Can we vote on any of that?
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CookieCrumbs said: We need very serious anticorruption laws and political party reforms to even have a chance at actually changing things. We need state laws in regards to ballots to be regulated in order for third party to even have a chance to win (many states have strict requirements on who is allowed on the ballot and who is a valid write in.)
Can we vote on any of that?
This is exactly the problem. The things that can save us from total clusterfuck are in the hands of the clusterfuckers.
Normal people like you and I and all the rest of the members here stand fuck all chance of changing things in the name of common sense.
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CookieCrumbs said: I hope trump helps fuck things up enough, and points to congress enough, we do away with the whole damn thing. #anarchybitchz 
i think a Trump presidency might be what america needs. Clinton and her ilk would keep the same shit running, and probably somewhat stable, for far too long, probably pushing us all past the point of no return. Trump though, he might just do enough damage that real change will HAVE to come, or at least piss off disenfranchised voters enough when he fails to deliver that they demand representation
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CookieCrumbs said: We need very serious anticorruption laws and political party reforms to even have a chance at actually changing things. We need state laws in regards to ballots to be regulated in order for third party to even have a chance to win (many states have strict requirements on who is allowed on the ballot and who is a valid write in.)
Can we vote on any of that?
Why would politicians bother making any of that happen if no one is going to vote for or against them?
How is not voting going to help with any of that? How is voting going to hinder any of that...
By not voting all you are doing is being complacent. Like I said either the votes don't matter or they do.
I know I would rather take 10-20 minutes of my time to vote just in case... Not voting is basically giving up
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: ModestMouse]
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are you serious?
dude voting is absolutely POINTLESS, unless its for props and local shit.
voting for the president doesn't mean shit. this country doesn't care about the populations vote.
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Why would anyone that came into power want to change the system that let them do so ?
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Is it so bad to give up when you have to make a choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich? To me it seems the sensible option.
If I was hungry, and was given the choice of two meals I hate, I'd just rather not eat, and instead fuck off into nature and eat berries and rabbits and mushrooms.
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musiclover420 said: Not voting is basically giving up 
Is it so bad to give up when you have to make a choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich? To me it seems the sensible option.
If I was hungry, and was given the choice of two meals I hate, I'd just rather not eat, and instead fuck off into nature and eat berries and rabbits and mushrooms.
honestly the most logical course these days seems to be isolate yourself, by Christ don't reproduce, and try and get what entertainment you can before the shit hits the fan.
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are you serious?
dude voting is absolutely POINTLESS, unless its for props and local shit.
voting for the president doesn't mean shit. this country doesn't care about the populations vote.
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In terms of financing, 5 percent will radically change the Libertarian candidate’s hand in the next election. Indeed 5 percent is the milestone set by the Federal Election Commission to be eligible for the Presidential Election Campaign Fund’s grant. The amount of public funding available to the minor party candidate is based on the the ratio of the party’s popular vote in the preceding presidential election to the average popular vote of the two major party candidates in that election.
If the libertarian candidate in the 2008 election had received 5 percent of the vote, Gary Johnson would have received approximately $9.5 million from the Presidential Election Campaign Fund. As of today, Governor Johnson has raised $2.3 million for his campaign, more than three times less than what he would have started with. If he had the additional grant money, he could have been on the ballot in every state, and would have been able to pursue a larger scale campaign.
By reaching 5 percent of the popular vote, Gary Johnson will secure approximately $10 million for the Libertarian candidate in the 2016 election. For a third party candidate, this is significant and justifies Gary Johnson’s recent quest to give him five.
Maybe if people had actually voted third party last election one of them might have had a chance this time around.... Way to help give us a better chance next time.
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Because if they don't speak for the people we will elect someone that does... That is why not voting is ridiculous.
If you don't like the current system at least vote third party so we can try and end this 2 party madness...
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: Ezuma]
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CookieCrumbs said: I hope trump helps fuck things up enough, and points to congress enough, we do away with the whole damn thing. #anarchybitchz 
i think a Trump presidency might be what america needs. Clinton and her ilk would keep the same shit running, and probably somewhat stable, for far too long, probably pushing us all past the point of no return. Trump though, he might just do enough damage that real change will HAVE to come, or at least piss off disenfranchised voters enough when he fails to deliver that they demand representation
I can agree. This is my only real hope. But then again whatever bad does happen he makes an excellent scapegoat and the media can say it's all our fault for letting less than a quarter of the country vote for him.
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CookieCrumbs said: I hope trump helps fuck things up enough, and points to congress enough, we do away with the whole damn thing. #anarchybitchz 
i think a Trump presidency might be what america needs. Clinton and her ilk would keep the same shit running, and probably somewhat stable, for far too long, probably pushing us all past the point of no return. Trump though, he might just do enough damage that real change will HAVE to come, or at least piss off disenfranchised voters enough when he fails to deliver that they demand representation
I can agree. This is my only real hope. But then again whatever bad does happen he makes an excellent scapegoat and the media can say it's all our fault for letting less than a quarter of the country vote for him.
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Ezuma said: honestly the most logical course these days seems to be isolate yourself, by Christ don't reproduce, and try and get what entertainment you can before the shit hits the fan.
My thoughts exactly. I'm gonna go isolate myself until I feel I can be a part of this culture again. Who knows, in 10 years, it might have become something more reasonable. Maybe never. Maybe collapse will come.
But right now I can't be a part of all this, so I'm gonna put all my energy into being self sufficient and far away from it, and hopefully on day common sense will prevail and I can return to live amongst the masses.
Right now though, the human traits I most despise seem to be the ones that prevail and are celebrated in our culture, and it breaks my heart to see it every day.
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You seem to not be aware of the problems that make what you propose to be impossible. How caan a third party get the grant funding if they weren't on half the ballots in the country and get almost no media coverage? Can someone pull up something from Wikipedia explaining how hard it is to even get on the ballot? I know there's an article there but it's too much hassle from my phone.
It has happened before but that ended up just causing more splits. Like what has usually happened before is one party splits. For example libertarian voters would mostly come from former democratic voters and that would almost certainly shoe in the republican candidate until one of those parties took over the other. And eventually they hold power long enough to become just as corrupt as the others because the system encourages it.
We need like a 16 party system like they have in India
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It's not when you have a farm to work on in the middle of nowhere which is run by a fucking cool dude who's your cousin. Plenty of meat to grow, hunt, kill. Veg grows easy in the climate.
I feel bad just saying it cause I know it's a blessing many don't have, but I wanted to point out that yes, total self sufficiency is a pipe dream, but getting out to the edge of the system is doable, if you're willing to make a bunch of sacrifices.
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It has happened before but that ended up just causing more splits. Like what has usually happened before is one party splits. For example libertarian voters would mostly come from former democratic voters and that would almost certainly shoe in the republican candidate until one of those parties took over the other. And eventually they hold power long enough to become just as corrupt as the others because the system encourages it.
We need like a 16 party system like they have in India
He was on 48 of the ballots.... This might have been our best shot...
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States control the election processes, and each of them have different rules regarding the requirements to have a third party candidate’s name on the ballot.
These state requirements will have to be met again in the next election, regardless of Gary Johnson’s results this year. However, as Johnson is already on the ballot in 48 states and a write-in on another (Oklahoma is the only state excluding him from the ballot), the financial rewards reaped from reaching 5 percent will most likely allow him to access the ballot in all fifty states in the next election cycle.
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CookieCrumbs said: We need very serious anticorruption laws and political party reforms to even have a chance at actually changing things. We need state laws in regards to ballots to be regulated in order for third party to even have a chance to win (many states have strict requirements on who is allowed on the ballot and who is a valid write in.)
Can we vote on any of that?
Why would politicians bother making any of that happen if no one is going to vote for or against them?
How is not voting going to help with any of that? How is voting going to hinder any of that...
By not voting all you are doing is being complacent. Like I said either the votes don't matter or they do.
I know I would rather take 10-20 minutes of my time to vote just in case... Not voting is basically giving up 
I guess that's true. You could vote for anyone. You could vote for Jim Carrey as a write in and see if he's elected if enough people vote for him
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Btw, Hillary won in terms of vote majority. Trump won by electoral vote the same way Romney lost by electoral vote.
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It has happened before but that ended up just causing more splits. Like what has usually happened before is one party splits. For example libertarian voters would mostly come from former democratic voters and that would almost certainly shoe in the republican candidate until one of those parties took over the other. And eventually they hold power long enough to become just as corrupt as the others because the system encourages it.
We need like a 16 party system like they have in India
How is India these days btw?
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: imachavel]
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: imachavel]
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Not voting just seems worse then voting for Trump or Hillary... The 3rd parties got 4% total so if we had rallied behind one 5% could have been possible.
Hell if less people got caught up in this circus show we could have hit 10% and gotten both 3rd parties a huge boost in funding...
It amazes me how people can't see them playing both sides. Every election they make out as some huge deal and both sides are urged to vote for the lesser of two evils and not waste their votes on third parties... In reality voting either main candidate is the waste as nothing really changes either way. We could have given ourselves more options next time though.
But no people don't care enough to take a little time out of their days and bother voting...
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Fuck if I know. Maybe 16 is a bit much. They do have liike a billion people there.
8 would be a fair number.
Also holy fucking shit I had no idea Johnson was on so many ballots. That's pretty cool. Tho I'm sad it's probably only because of how terrible the 2 party played this time around. Still just the fact he was on so many ballots explains why he got so many votes.
Not all states allow write ins and even still there's usually only a handful of valid write ins.
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It's not when you have a farm to work on in the middle of nowhere which is run by a fucking cool dude who's your cousin. Plenty of meat to grow, hunt, kill. Veg grows easy in the climate.
I feel bad just saying it cause I know it's a blessing many don't have, but I wanted to point out that yes, total self sufficiency is a pipe dream, but getting out to the edge of the system is doable, if you're willing to make a bunch of sacrifices.
aka living in a community.
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CookieCrumbs said: Also holy fucking shit I had no idea Johnson was on so many ballots. That's pretty cool. Tho I'm sad it's probably only because of how terrible the 2 party played this time around. Still just the fact he was on so many ballots explains why he got so many votes.
Not all states allow write ins and even still there's usually only a handful of valid write ins.
It just sucks becouse who knows if he will be on that many next year... If he had managed 5% he definitely would have been on them all.
I voted Jill becouse I liked her stances a bit more and didn't hear about any leanings one way or the other but I wish people would have rallied behind one.
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moonrockmushy said: self-sufficiency is a pipe dream. That would hardly even be considered human.
It's not when you have a farm to work on in the middle of nowhere which is run by a fucking cool dude who's your cousin. Plenty of meat to grow, hunt, kill. Veg grows easy in the climate.
I feel bad just saying it cause I know it's a blessing many don't have, but I wanted to point out that yes, total self sufficiency is a pipe dream, but getting out to the edge of the system is doable, if you're willing to make a bunch of sacrifices.
aka living in a community.
that's the dream, real community. The world as it stands is just not something I want to be involved with really, philosophy and reason generally are dead, Science is dying, soon all there will be is the free market and advertising stooges
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I'd be all for the libertarian party taking over the democratic party. Even if in the end it would just become the new democratic party after floundering and shoing in the republican party. But the country isn't ready for that. Most of the people are too scared and confused and brainwashed. If Mr Johnson talks up fixing these issues and gets enough people listening (which is very possible if the 2 party doesn't get make overs) and he says enough of what I like I'll vote next go around. But honestly I haven't heard anything out of any other potential candidates, not any of them, that is really what I want to hear, is going to be the change I think we need.
Quite simply my bag is I'm not going to vote for someone I don't like. And I don't hate Johnson. I just don't like enough of what he says. I count my not voting as not enabling. It's like giving candy to a diabetic fatkid until laws change.
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Check out Jill's policies: http://www.jill2016.com/plan
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Key points of the Power to the People Plan: A Green New Deal:
Create millions of jobs by transitioning to 100% clean renewable energy by 2030, and investing in public transit, sustainable agriculture, and conservation. Jobs as a Right:
Create living-wage jobs for every American who needs work, replacing unemployment offices with employment offices. Advance workers rights to form unions, achieve workplace democracy, and keep a fair share of the wealth they create. End Poverty:
Guarantee economic human rights, including access to food, water, housing, and utilities, with effective anti-poverty programs to ensure every American a life of dignity. Health Care as a Right:
Establish an improved “Medicare For All” single-payer public health insurance program to provide everyone with quality health care, at huge savings. Education as a Right:
Abolish student debt to free a generation of Americans from debt servitude. Guarantee tuition-free, world-class public education from pre-school through university. End high stakes testing and public school privatization. A Just Economy:
Set a $15/hour federal minimum wage. Break up “too-big-to-fail” banks and democratize the Federal Reserve. Reject gentrification as a model of economic development. Support development of worker and community cooperatives and small businesses. Make Wall Street, big corporations, and the rich pay their fair share of taxes. Create democratically run public banks and utilities. Replace corporate trade agreements with fair trade agreements. Protect Mother Earth:
Lead on a global treaty to halt climate change. End destructive energy extraction: fracking, tar sands, offshore drilling, oil trains, mountaintop removal, and uranium mines. Protect our public lands, water supplies, biological diversity, parks, and pollinators. Label GMOs, and put a moratorium on GMOs and pesticides until they are proven safe. Protect the rights of future generations. Racial Justice Now:
End police brutality and mass incarceration. Create a Truth and Reconciliation Commission to understand and eliminate the legacy of slavery that lives on as pervasive racism in the economy, education, housing and health. Ensure that communities control their police rather than police controlling our communities, by establishing police review boards and full time investigators to look in to all cases of death in police custody. Demilitarize the police. Freedom and Equality:
Expand women’s rights, protect LGBTQIA+ people from discrimination, defend indigenous rights and lands, and create a welcoming path to citizenship for immigrants. Protect the free Internet, legalize marijuana/hemp, and treat substance abuse as a public health problem, not a criminal problem. Justice for All:
Restore our Constitutional rights, terminate unconstitutional surveillance and unwarranted spying, end persecution of government and media whistleblowers, close Guantanamo, abolish secret kill lists, and repeal indefinite detention without charge or trial. Peace and Human Rights:
Establish a foreign policy based on diplomacy, international law, and human rights. End the wars and drone attacks, cut military spending by at least 50% and close the 700+ foreign military bases that are turning our republic into a bankrupt empire. Stop U.S. support and arms sales to human rights abusers, and lead on global nuclear disarmament. Empower the People:
Abolish corporate personhood. Protect voters’ rights by establishing a constitutional right to vote. Enact electoral reforms that break the big money stranglehold and create truly representative democracy: public campaign financing, ranked-choice voting, proportional representation, and open debates.
She could be just what we need and I liked her stances enough that she got my vote
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are you serious?
dude voting is absolutely POINTLESS, unless its for props and local shit.
voting for the president doesn't mean shit. this country doesn't care about the populations vote.
Yeah totally 
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In terms of financing, 5 percent will radically change the Libertarian candidate’s hand in the next election. Indeed 5 percent is the milestone set by the Federal Election Commission to be eligible for the Presidential Election Campaign Fund’s grant. The amount of public funding available to the minor party candidate is based on the the ratio of the party’s popular vote in the preceding presidential election to the average popular vote of the two major party candidates in that election.
If the libertarian candidate in the 2008 election had received 5 percent of the vote, Gary Johnson would have received approximately $9.5 million from the Presidential Election Campaign Fund. As of today, Governor Johnson has raised $2.3 million for his campaign, more than three times less than what he would have started with. If he had the additional grant money, he could have been on the ballot in every state, and would have been able to pursue a larger scale campaign.
By reaching 5 percent of the popular vote, Gary Johnson will secure approximately $10 million for the Libertarian candidate in the 2016 election. For a third party candidate, this is significant and justifies Gary Johnson’s recent quest to give him five.
Maybe if people had actually voted third party last election one of them might have had a chance this time around.... Way to help give us a better chance next time.
he lost, badly. you just proved my point even further.
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sanchothestoner said: he lost, badly. you just proved my point even further.
Care to explain how?
3rd parties got 4% as I said, 5% is needed to get federal funding which would have over tripled the funding to his party.
All it would have taken is 1% and some rallying and he could have gotten 5%... If more people actually voted it would have been even easier.
What does not voting accomplish? What does voting trump/ hillary accomplish? By voting 3rd party you could have at least helped make next election better....
Would have taken you like 30 minutes. The only "point" you are making by not voting is that politicians can and will get away with this crap...
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Care to explain how?
3rd parties got 4% as I said, 5% is needed to get federal funding which would have over tripled the funding to his party.
All it would have taken is 1% and some rallying and he could have gotten 5%... If more people actually voted it would have been even easier.
What does not voting accomplish? What does voting trump/ hillary accomplish? By voting 3rd party you could have at least helped make next election better....
Would have taken you like 30 minutes. The only "point" you are making by not voting is that politicians can and will get away with this crap...
that's what i'm saying cause that's exactly what happens. remember florida with bush?
voting for bills n props n shit is legit, but imho, voting for the president is wasteful. that dude just lost a ton of money by being elected.
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see I want to like Jill like how I wanted to like Bernie. But theyd rush the economy into collapse. The middle class would be destroyed. Id be 100% behind these people if they were willing to push for full scale economic reform. As in redoing the entire economic system. That's what the country needs more than anything. And it would go a long way in ending corruption. Shit it'd fix almost all our major problems if we did it right. But unfortunately we would have to mostly withdraw from the global economy to do it right. maybe someone will get on with this when we inevitably (and likely soon) dip into a severe depression.
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sanchothestoner said: that's what i'm saying cause that's exactly what happens. remember florida with bush?
voting for bills n props n shit is legit, but imho, voting for the president is wasteful. that dude just lost a ton of money by being elected.
I don't know the details of what you are referring too but people shouldn't just give up becouse it doesn't always work out.
Give me one reason why voting 3rd party is wasteful... Have you actually looked into either 3rd party?
Either one could be a fresh change from the crap we have been stuck with. At the very least voting 3rd party could help end 2 party politics one day...
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CookieCrumbs said: see I want to like Jill like how I wanted to like Bernie. But theyd rush the economy into collapse. The middle class would be destroyed. Id be 100% behind these people if they were willing to push for full scale economic reform. As in redoing the entire economic system. That's what the country needs more than anything. And it would go a long way in ending corruption. Shit it'd fix almost all our major problems if we did it right. But unfortunately we would have to mostly withdraw from the global economy to do it right. maybe someone will get on with this when we inevitably (and likely soon) dip into a severe depression.
And everyone needs to get a fucking pony from the government. We need to switch to a pony based economy.
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yes i have. and it's mostly only the population that votes for 3rd party, not electoral.
it'd be awesome if more electoral votes were going towards to 3rd party, but sadly we live in a shitty world.
i'm not tryna say that the 3rd party is useless in anyway though.
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sanchothestoner said: yes i have. and it's mostly only the population that votes for 3rd party, not electoral.
it'd be awesome if more electoral votes were going towards to 3rd party, but sadly we live in a shitty world.
Once again though 5% would have meant increased funding. Increased funding means bigger campaigns next time, a guarantee on all the ballots, and more publicity.
It may not change things immediately but not voting isn't going to change anything ever as is voting for either puppet that has been shoved in our faces.
It might as well be useless for now until more people get fed up and vote 3rd party...
That is why it is disheartening seeing all the people who couldn't be bothered to vote at all
I expected better from the Shroomery but then again this is the pub 
I almost didn't vote so I am not trying to be too judgmental but I sucked it up and did a little research, didn't take long at all.
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Trump is definitely a third party candidate with a "Republican" label. He knew he had to have the artificial label for any chance to win, but he was hated by damn near all of the republican establishment and a lot of religious conservatives that were Ted Cruz supporters. For example, I know 2 Ted Cruz supporters that voted republican for everything, but didn't vote for Trump. They voted third party.
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sanchothestoner said: yes i have. and it's mostly only the population that votes for 3rd party, not electoral.
it'd be awesome if more electoral votes were going towards to 3rd party, but sadly we live in a shitty world.
Once again though 5% would have meant increased funding. Increased funding means bigger campaigns next time, a guarantee on all the ballots, and more publicity.
It may not change things immediately but not voting isn't going to change anything ever as is voting for either puppet that has been shoved in our faces.
It might as well be useless for now until more people get fed up and vote 3rd party...
That is why it is disheartening seeing all the people who couldn't be bothered to vote at all
I expected better from the Shroomery but then again this is the pub 
I almost didn't vote so I am not trying to be too judgmental but I sucked it up and did a little research, didn't take long at all.
def unaware of that.
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: daytripper05] 1
#23817044 - 11/09/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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daytripper05 said: Trump is definitely a third party candidate with a "Republican" label...
I actually burst out laughing at that. Obama was a revolutionary too.
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...that turned out to be a lame duck president.
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#23817082 - 11/09/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh god I'm having as much fun as you fools. I need to go to bed.
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: ruaware] 2
#23817116 - 11/09/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ruaware said: The way i see it, we had two terrible options. But now at least taxes will go down
you know what will also go down?
Net neutrality.
Funding for education.
A number of things I would think would be important to people here, specifically.
But regardless, I respect anyone's right to choose whom they thought was truly best for the country, and the world. In the end we all want the same outcome and it pains me to see the immaturity that is our nation's divide.
I hope for us all that Trump is everything his supporters hoped he was.
Either way our system is broken and it'll be political gridlock. As always.
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teachers wouldnt need to get paid so much if they didn't spend 15 years in college
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#23817146 - 11/09/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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What the fuck are you talking about?
I'm talking about core curriculum public education.
Clearly we're not on the same page because when the fuck did you meet a 6th grade teacher who went to school for 15 years.
I'm talking infrastructure for public education, making sure kids have adequate schools, making sure some fucktard in Tennessee isn't trying to teach them that Dinosaurs were a myth or that the entire nation is not merely teaching them to pass completely insufficient standardized testing.
My guess is Konyap, based on the normal level I've observed you functioning at on these boards, that real, mature and unemotional conversation is probably lost on you. So don't feel too bad.
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nobody wants standardized testging because the teachers never get to teach anything and there is this huge pressure on them to get kids to pass when kids that don't want to be there show up and basically do nothing the "normal" people in american schools are there to be disciplined there isn't really any learning going on at all compared to the amount of time spent there vs. what they're actually tested on I'm positively sure that most of you could have completed 10th grade in the 6th grade with ease... I got a regents diploma and it got me 5 1/2 years of college and a choice between flipping burgers or on an assembly line also unless you get straight A's and can compete with educating the worlds rich kids a college degree is about as useful as a peice of toilet paper. I dare not get an english degree because as a male I am subject to C- grades for no apparent reason other than my sex and my style of writing
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: Konyap] 1
#23817212 - 11/09/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thankyou for actually responding and trying to discuss this with me.
Firstly, I completely agree with you.
Secondly, and this is just out of curiousity because it's an idea I ponder myself - what exactly do you think we should be teaching our kids in those crucial years?
Personally I went to a charter school which severely lacked in some areas for me, but excelled in others - I personally think we should be teaching kids, using fundamental knowledge, how exactly to learn. I think we should be teaching them real life skills, like financial literacy, I think we need to teach them more about our government and the world - but mainly teach them how they really study and retain information whether they go into college or a skilled trade. I think trades and STEM need to be taught more, for sure, my school didn't have a computer lab(it was an art school granted) but art and technology are so interwoven, and at this point the fact that our middle schoolers aren't learning to code already, IMO puts us as a nation behind.
I also, as someone who is currently going into technology in the non profit field specifically, see a huge dispersion of resources for highschoolers and young adults in terms of trade programs particularly those geared towards tech. There is a lot of fantastic stuff corporations like Microsoft, SAP, Oracle and more are doing in cities, but not in rural areas. As someone from the rust belt and very very familiar with forgotten coal mining towns that have literally just been left to their own devices and as a result have completely rotted away in the last 30 years....it really bothers me.
I want to eventually get educational resources that are available in cities and more geographically dense areas that are no where to be found in most of my state more widely dispersed so those people do have career paths that are more in line with the global market.
That's kinda aside from politics, but yeah.
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Basically just give them any college level book force them to read 5-10 pages and break everything down by the end of the week for homework. If there are any discrepancies in how well they're doing then it will be based on effort and not how many resources one group of kids has over another. I was able to sit still in kindergarden without jumping out of my seat or yelling and screaming. But these people nowadays say that means I'm autistic, if anyone is shy or doesn't blab at the mouth then people nowadays think you're mentally retarded, because that's what people do at school. Act mentally retarded. One portion of the class goes "but why but why" "uhhh" and then another portion has to sit there because no one told them to redo the homework everyday or copy everything down over and over to get an A+ and get moved to higher classes, if you're on the cusp they should let you take them and you should have a choice of who your teacher is. If smart kids were a minority than the colleges wouldn't be filled to the brim with fucking minorities lol
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: Konyap]
#23817283 - 11/09/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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my school was pretty backwards thou we sent all the kids that got F's to another school and they would basically show up there to smoke and hang out the worst possible gathering
meanwhile if I wanted to take algebra I have ONE teacher to teach me
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: pirate-blues] 3
#23817346 - 11/09/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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pirate-blues said: it pains me to see the immaturity that is our nation's divide.
That's exactly what strikes me when I look at our species as a whole. The stupid games we play between nations, the fights, the tantrums, the stupid decisions, the need to be popular or powerful or famous.
It's like some school playground shit on a global scale. When are we gonna grow up?
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We either will or we'll die.
That's the reality of the situation.
Evolution didn't stop with humans and we're far from the end all be all of things.
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: pirate-blues] 2
#23817440 - 11/09/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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pirate-blues said: We either will or we'll die.
That's the reality of the situation.
Evolution didn't stop with humans and we're far from the end all be all of things.
this is more and more evident, we learned nothing from the 20th century except the extent of human gullibility it seems
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: Ezuma]
#23817550 - 11/09/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, we got technology, most of which seems to give the feeling that we're more connected, whilst we're actually more distant (on a soul to soul level) from others IMO.
Plus advances in medical science, meaning we live longer but still ignore the wisdom of our elders and shove them in care homes.
And we don't seem to revel in public executions and gore quite so much.
But yeah, when it comes down to it I think you hit the nail on the head. The overriding progress of the century seems to me to be towards superficiality, mistrust, moneygrabbing and antisocial behaviour IME.
Yay progress!
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pirate-blues said: it pains me to see the immaturity that is our nation's divide.
That's exactly what strikes me when I look at our species as a whole. The stupid games we play between nations, the fights, the tantrums, the stupid decisions, the need to be popular or powerful or famous.
It's like some school playground shit on a global scale. When are we gonna grow up?
yeah junior when are we gonna grow up little guy
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Re: official #didntvote thread [Re: Sheekle]
#23817919 - 11/09/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Even though that's the most pointless post I've read in months, I bet someone +1's it.
You're so cool.
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