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The only question that matters... right after "what are you going to do today?"
I may be applying for a passport. You?
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I'll be thinking about the yesterday I thought that I was thinking of today as if I was seeing into the future tomorrow, but at least I have something to works towards in the now.
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: Khancious] 1
#23814294 - 11/08/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm going to meet a woman in charge of an art exhibition that will be showing works of homeless people and people living on the fringe to show her some of my work and possibly be accepted to show my art in the exhibition.
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Be making sure I continue to live life on my terms, so that if tomorrow I get run down by the proverbial bus, I'll know beyond doubt that I lived my life to the best of my ability. Sounds cheesy as fuck, but pretty much that 'live every day like it was your last' kinda gig.
I had a moment in the mirror tripping on 2C-B this morning, and felt a massively powerful realisation that if my only judge in this life is myself, then I've got no problems at all. To quote a poem (in fact the only poem that's ever resonated with me) I love:
He’s the fellow to please – never mind all the rest For he’s with you, clear to the end And you’ve passed your most difficult, dangerous test If the man in the glass is your friend.
I really fucking like/love me, so doing whatever I must to continue to cultivate and feel that is my goal for every day (even if some days are an epic fail in this regard, surely they're just lessons if you look at them right...).
I got my passport renewed a couple of weeks back, gonna be a real treat to leave the UK on my British one and waltz into Aus on my Australian one. I called an old, old friend quite synchronistically today; he'd just got off the phone applying to get into Aus - turns out I might be able to sponsor him to get over there, which makes it even more of a treat - being able to help another.
What's your goal in obtaining a passport P_T? What delights and treasures in this big wide world are you gonna riding off into the sunset towards?
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Penelope_Tree said: The only question that matters... right after "what are you going to do today?"
I may be applying for a passport. You?
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Most men lead lives of quiet desperation. ~ Thoreau
It is time for some noisy desperation. 
As my life is winding down, I feel as if I have missed something important, but that may be some sort of religious/spiritual guilt. Perhaps mere survival is the only goal and the rest is just frosting. No other animals (to our knowledge) rub their paws/flippers/fins/mandibles/tentacles together in angst about what their life purpose is.
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that angst is because you forget what you wanted to do and are trying to remember. you have angstheimers.
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OrgoneConclusion said: As my life is winding down, I feel as if I have missed something important, but that may be some sort of religious/spiritual guilt
I hope you forgive me for making such a bold assumption, but I reckon I know exactly what the heart of this feeling is. It has something to do with a 'twin flame' experience IMO, and accepting what cannot be proven. We've talked for many hours OC, and I always come away from our chats feeling like the answer is right under your nose - you just angle your head so that you don't see it.
This is not a criticism man. I'm half your age, so perhaps I see it easier, or perhaps I'm just an immature moron with an idealistic streak. But I have a strong gut feeling that this 'important something' is right there for you to see - you just gotta tilt your head to the right angle.
Once I figure out the time difference between us, we'll catch up, and talk about chopsticks, spoons, soup, the and the number 42.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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redgreenvines said: that angst is because you forget what you wanted to do and are trying to remember. you have angstheimers.
Light must be very frustrated else it would not be measured in angstroms.
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OrgoneConclusion said: As my life is winding down, I feel as if I have missed something important, but that may be some sort of religious/spiritual guilt
I hope you forgive me for making such a bold assumption, but I reckon I know exactly what the heart of this feeling is. It has something to do with a 'twin flame' experience IMO, and accepting what cannot be proven. We've talked for many hours OC, and I always come away from our chats feeling like the answer is right under your nose - you just angle your head so that you don't see it.
This is not a criticism man. I'm half your age, so perhaps I see it easier, or perhaps I'm just an immature moron with an idealistic streak. But I have a strong gut feeling that this 'important something' is right there for you to see - you just gotta tilt your head to the right angle.
Once I figure out the time difference between us, we'll catch up, and talk about chopsticks, spoons, soup, the and the number 42.

Just what are you trying to say?
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redgreenvines said: that angst is because you forget what you wanted to do and are trying to remember. you have angstheimers.
Light must be very frustrated else it would not be measured in angstroms. 
you may have stumbled upon a new currency, we could be trading in angstroms at Deep Space 9 with Ferengi for favors and booze.
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I'll tell you straight - I've never met a man so obsessed with proof as yourself. I get it, you're a fucking massively intelligent guy with a hugely scientific bent. But, IMO, that tendency is what is keeping you from grasping your 'something important, but that may be some sort of religious/spiritual guilt'.
Look, I maybe just some whacko drug fiend who talks nonsense to people. But the fact that you admitted to feeling that way a few posts back, on top of all that we've shared, and all that I've felt in our hours of conversing, just solidifies for me that in order to find your 'something important' you're gonna have to drop the need for proof and evidence.
I love you man, and I wanna see you touch and feel the undefinable something that is in every one of us. I only want the best for you, as any good friend would.
I'll erase this post if you don't want it in public, just PM me, going to bed in 20 mins. And I'll take your Russell Crowe and raise you an Arnold Schwarzenegger in the meantime - Crowe wouldn't stand a chance...
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I am more than just a brain!
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That you are, but that brain of yours is a fucking machine. Remember those 10,000HP+ dragsters? That's like your brain compared to the average persons car that's pushing 240HP.
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That explains my enormous appetite - and why hats won't fit me.
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I bet 6ft flames shoot out your ears when you think hard enough. Can you make the very earth shake too?
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Hubba, hubba!
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You guys turn my world upside down
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Jokeshopbeard said: I'll tell you straight - I've never met a man so obsessed with proof as yourself.
This is a recipe for misery. Spiritual truths are intuited, not proven. If you demand proof for them you will never get it and you will thus guarantee that you will never make peace with death and will end up old and miserable...
...wait.
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: viktor]
#23820124 - 11/10/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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old and miserable? wait a minute! Spiritual truths are not different than other truths; but guesses that are unproven is another thing entirely, and if you fill up with unproven guesses, it's going to take more horsepower to move forward, and that means much more horseshit.
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OrgoneConclusion said: Most men lead lives of quiet desperation. ~ Thoreau
It is time for some noisy desperation. 
As my life is winding down, I feel as if I have missed something important, but that may be some sort of religious/spiritual guilt. Perhaps mere survival is the only goal and the rest is just frosting. No other animals (to our knowledge) rub their paws/flippers/fins/mandibles/tentacles together in angst about what their life purpose is.
Perhaps you're close to the blissful acceptance of your own insignificance and ultimate lack of purpose. Animals and flora don't need to understand they just are and it's beautiful.
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: pineninja]
#23820252 - 11/10/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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if there is a purpose to intelligence, it is to make things better, and if you do any of that, you did good.
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: pineninja]
#23820265 - 11/10/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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OK, Aunty Blavatsky tells me she has been 'in contact with the ascended masters' and they have informed her that the race she belongs to is the superior 'root race', and other 'inferior races' must be defeated and go extinct.
Should I believe her and ask for proof? OR should I trust her 'spiritual intuition?'
Of course I won't trust her. I won't trust anyone who claims to have been in touch with invisible beings and their authority I must believe
But I do trust my spiritual experience and do not need to prove it. And I do not define it as contact with ascended spirits, but with the spiritual aspect of nature, and my connection with nature
it would be like me trying to prove how I feel when I am dancing and feel part OF the dance, because I am immersed in the experience. I am experiencing it. I do not have to prove it.
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: zzripz]
#23820277 - 11/10/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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authority! Yikes!
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redgreenvines said: if there is a purpose to intelligence, it is to make things better, and if you do any of that, you did good.
Purpose is the trap and better is an illusion both to be manipulated by those who could. Sum total of it all will not be changed one way or the other. It may sound nihilistic but it's more a celebration of purposeless experience, love.
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: viktor]
#23820360 - 11/10/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: I'll tell you straight - I've never met a man so obsessed with proof as yourself.
This is a recipe for misery. Spiritual truths are intuited, not proven. If you demand proof for them you will never get it and you will thus guarantee that you will never make peace with death and will end up old and miserable...
...wait.
Personal slam plus bald assertion plus false observation. Triple fail! 
You make a good case that personal intuition turns one into a compassionless asshole.
There are some several hundred thousand flavors and sub-flavors of religion and subsequent oppression and terror attacks because everyone intuits their own "truth" which is not a truth at all.
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OrgoneConclusion said: everyone intuits their own "truth" which is not a truth at all. 
Is that true?
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I'm talking about spirituality, you start talking about religion 
Proof that you don't get it, never will get it. You haven't even started to get it. You'll die without getting it.
Sucks to be you, I guess. Perhaps if you had been born in a less materialist generation you would not have been misled as badly as you were.
Not much I can do other than to chide people of my generation into avoiding the same errors.
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: viktor]
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Do you want to go out like Icelander did? Pissing and moaning and dragging everyone else down with him?
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: viktor]
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viktor said: You'll die without getting it.
Not if I've got anything to do with it. Getting it was the best thing that ever happened to me, all in the last year or two.
OC and I were both dealt a very similar hand by life which I believe was a call to 'get it'. Shit, he's told me about a bunch of synchronicities in his life, but he counters them. I feel like all the ingredients for him to get it are there, he's just gotta tame that supercharged drag engine of a brain IMO - it's like his vast intelligence is blocking him from getting it. I can empathise. My IQ aint exactly low, but I'm glad it's not as high as his. I feel it's the main thing standing between him and 'it'.
As an aside, pretty harsh words there viktor. You could've been so much kinder in the way you conveyed that. Just wanted to bring it to your attention.
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Vast intelligence exists for a reason.
The reason for it is to make it easier for the organism possessing it to dominate and control their environment. Like big muscles, it provides an evolutionary advantage.
Unfortunately it also does another thing. Intelligent people tend to rely on intelligence to solve all their problems ("if all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail").
Unfortunately happiness is a matter of humility, and being intelligent and being strong make you arrogant and not humble.
Thus, the 'intelligence' you're talking about is actually an impediment to getting it.
OC will never get it because he's clinging barnacle-like to the idea that he's smarter than everyone else. Thus the constant demands for logical proof. Basically the same delusion Icelander had.
I laugh because I can see the misery this creates but I also feel a kind of pity because he is old and probably will not get much further than this.
OC: man of silver. No shame in that.
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: viktor]
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I wish you'd stop saying he'll never get it. It makes you sound arrogant, unkind, and judgemental.
So maybe the dude is gonna have a harder battle than you or I due to his high IQ and age... But you're here spitting absolutes which he's gonna read and which may well make the process more difficult for him.
Where's your fucking compassion man? You're just being part of the problem. Not very nice.
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What if he's laughing at us as we scour the background of our intellect in search of ways to conceptualize the perception of his username and use of language to send messages along the wire of shroomery consciousness
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we have to keep on getting it because we keep losing it
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It's so elusive yet so obtrusive once in tune with the moon and the eternalness of the tomb.
I think Mckenna said it's like "liquid gold running through ones fingers"
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redgreenvines said: we have to keep on getting it because we keep losing it
Well said. That's exactly what led me to start that frustrated thread the other day. I wonder if say, a Buddhist monk living in a monastery gets it most of the time, and rarely loses it, unlike I who doesn't get it most of the time, but given the right conditions (environment, mindset) can definitely get it about once a week.
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I have to wonder if there is anything to "get." If one withdraws the question, one withdraws the need for an answer.
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: Khancious]
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Khancious said: I'll be thinking about the yesterday I thought that I was thinking of today as if I was seeing into the future tomorrow, but at least I have something to works towards in the now.

I think my computer will be going down tomorrow.
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DividedQuantum said: I have to wonder if there is anything to "get." If one withdraws the question, one withdraws the need for an answer.

I think it's a matter of seeing and feeling the way it flows within and without you, not something to strive for, but to finally be, beyond the idea of what you think it is
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DividedQuantum said: I have to wonder if there is anything to "get." If one withdraws the question, one withdraws the need for an answer.
Seeking gets old, looking around at the world and enjoying its mystery never does. Those who need an answer typically don't even know what questions to ask, but think they need to keep trying.
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: Khancious]
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: Khancious]
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DividedQuantum said: I have to wonder if there is anything to "get." If one withdraws the question, one withdraws the need for an answer.
To me, that getting is just spiritual connection, or communion with god. There's nothing cognitive there, just overwhelming feeling.
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DividedQuantum said: I have to wonder if there is anything to "get." If one withdraws the question, one withdraws the need for an answer.
Seeking gets old, looking around at the world and enjoying its mystery never does. Those who need an answer typically don't even know what questions to ask, but think they need to keep trying.
Even entertaining the concept of there being anything to get is failure.
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DividedQuantum said: I have to wonder if there is anything to "get." If one withdraws the question, one withdraws the need for an answer.
To me, that getting is just spiritual connection, or communion with god. There's nothing cognitive there, just overwhelming feeling.
Otoh, getting implies duality -- something getting something else. Spiritual connection usually implies wholeness, ime.
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: viktor]
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DividedQuantum said: I have to wonder if there is anything to "get." If one withdraws the question, one withdraws the need for an answer.
Seeking gets old, looking around at the world and enjoying its mystery never does. Those who need an answer typically don't even know what questions to ask, but think they need to keep trying.
Even entertaining the concept of there being anything to get is failure.
So if I say I think I get it then I fail?
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: LunarEclipse] 2
#23821112 - 11/10/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Even asking me that question is failure.
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: viktor] 2
#23821117 - 11/10/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The right thing to do is just to live.
However, it might be the correct role of fellows like us to sit around here and argue about who gets it or not. In which case, we're doing well!
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: viktor]
#23821135 - 11/10/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think while in the midst of a dualistic condition, it makes sense to use dualistic concepts as a pointer to a way "out". from a state without the dualism occurring, then of course there is no need for any concepts (all of which involve the assumption of dualism). and that said, I do not think dualism is a mistake that should not exist, I do not think there is a better reality of solely unity with no appearances or change for eternity (even without the ability to cognize that one is without duality, as that too is a dualism). everything serves it's purpose that said, some experiences feel nicer
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: deff] 1
#23821147 - 11/10/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, agree. It's almost a paradox, isn't it? It's as if as soon as one considers the possibility of a certain thing one is already locked into a certain set of limitations on one's perspective.
I like to think of it in terms of feminine and masculine. One thinks in a feminine fashion when one thinks all is one, and one thinks in a masculine fashion if one sees the divisions and distinctions between things.
Thus dualism is a very rudimentary masculine perspective.
For me if have been fighting, anxious or stressed I like to take the feminine perspective, chill out and think about how all is one. If I am bored or have been doing repetitive thought or action I like to take the masculine perspective and think about something new and how things are different.
I think that both approaches have their place. Ironically, disagreeing with me here also has its place.
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: viktor]
#23821160 - 11/10/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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always fail better
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: viktor]
#23821168 - 11/10/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah I tend sometimes to feel that the heart feels/knows unity while the head thinks/knows division, and that they work together. seeing them as separate is the domain of the head, whereas feeling their integration is the domain of the heart... if that makes sense and yes, everything has a place! 
and even saying head and heart is a function of the head  to the heart, there is nothing discernible in concepts of course, just a spacious knowingness of being, or something
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: deff]
#23821240 - 11/10/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, it makes perfect sense. Gold is a more malleable metal than silver, but silver would be better for making tools out of. Do you know what I mean? I think you do.
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Re: What will you do tomorrow? [Re: viktor]
#23821284 - 11/10/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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