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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
    #23822590 - 11/11/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

there's nothing wrong with the electoral collage.


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23822601 - 11/11/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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there's nothing wrong with the electoral collage.



I agree, kinda. I don't know. I just think it's hilarious that all these liberals who were outraged that Trump said he might not accept the results of the election, are now refusing to accept the results of the election.


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin] * 2
    #23822606 - 11/11/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Koods, let's go find you a nice safe space.


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: philopian_tube] * 1
    #23822715 - 11/11/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm really confused. Weren't there literally millions of dead/illegal votes for Hillary during the election? Funny how that combined with media bias couldn't get her the electoral votes.


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: MushroomMomo]
    #23822719 - 11/11/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm really confused. Weren't there literally millions of dead/illegal votes for Hillary during the election? Funny how that combined with media bias couldn't get her the electoral votes.




Yea, Hildabeast Shills will tell you she won the popular vote, but if you subtract all the illegal votes for her, TRUMP won

***even if you add them back in, TRUMP still won


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23822817 - 11/11/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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MushroomMomo said:
I'm really confused. Weren't there literally millions of dead/illegal votes for Hillary during the election? Funny how that combined with media bias couldn't get her the electoral votes.




Yea, Hildabeast Shills will tell you she won the popular vote, but if you subtract all the illegal votes for her, TRUMP won

***even if you add them back in, TRUMP still won




Interesting theory, Prooof?


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23822917 - 11/11/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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there's nothing wrong with the electoral collage.




Yeah. But the electoral college sucks


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: koods]
    #23822926 - 11/11/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Would you say that if Hillary Clinton were the benefactor of the EC?


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23822967 - 11/11/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've been bitching about the EC for years. It is a fundamentally unfair system that not only gives people who live in low population states more power, it also means there can never really be a competitive three way race. If nobody gets 270 votes in election, the decision is handed over the establishment in the house and they decide. There is no reason to even think about a presidential election in terms of states. Everyone gets to vote for a president who represents everyone. It's not about states at all. That is what the senate is for.

The electoral college is affirmative action for people who live in low population jurisdictions. It makes absolutely no sense. You could win the election despite getting as little as 25% of the vote. It is an absolutely bizarre system that is rooted in giving slave states more power since a lot of the population only counted as 3/5 of a person. Why are we retaining such an ill conceived system?


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: koods]
    #23822968 - 11/11/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
there's nothing wrong with the electoral collage.




Yeah. But the electoral college sucks



:whistling: well, you know.... :spaceman:


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: koods] * 2
    #23823012 - 11/11/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

In my experience (4.5 years) of living out in the rural low population areas, most if not all of them chose to live out there and despise big cities/big city life. I kind of agree with what you say in the respect that most of them seem to be far right wing republican religious zealots. Some of the people I met and befriended were OK mostly, but a majority of the town folk (according to the people from there 2nd and 3rd gen. etc...) and my experiences with them were extremely homophobic, prejudiced, misogynistic, and religious etc...

While eating breakfast one day (people would talk really loudly and across three tables to each other) a guy just starts out a conversation with "that nigger in the oval office..." I almost spit my food out! My mate just told me to be cool, we had to live there.
Some of the girls in my nursing class were told by their parents to have children before they turn 20! There are many more stories like this I witnessed personally. Almost every country comedy parody cliche one might see in movies was actually true life and not funny at all! So why should those few people have more power?

I'm not saying ALL rural country people and areas are like that, but definitely a high number of them in the south. Extreme prejudice as well, it is under the surface but there. I also lived in MS. for 4 plus years and it was a trip. There was a black kid protesting the flags on the beach in Biloxi back in 2002-03 ish. Turned into a sort of riot type demonstration and the KKK wizards in full garb were out there, there were 100's blacks and KKK, and if I had taken a picture in black and white you wouldn't know what year it was if not for the cars!


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23823044 - 11/11/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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> I have no idea what kind of president he will be, but for the rest of his life he seems to have been a pretty awful person.

> his failing social policies seem to be well documented throughout the media http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/26/how-conservatives-should-respond-to-the-trump-riot/

> lastly, did you like him ever? Do you care who he is? Or are you just arguing against a lack of what you consider liberal diplomacy? Are liberals being diplomatic by rioting through the streets? No probably not. Does it change the fact that there isn't much of one thing about Trump worth praising? I don't see how it does. What is your opinion about the candidate anyway? Despite your disagreements with those who have over inflated opinions of themselves and who also oppose Trump?





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Economically speaking Trump is no better then any other failing president then signs in policies with ridiculous ideas on what they call a budgetary limit.







I mean. We will see is what I meant to say I guess.

Do you work in hospitality management by some chance for a large hotel?

I'm just curious because if you bring in someone to prep food and the last 6 jobs he had he got fired for smoking crack in the kitchen and dropping the order on a ticket, what makes you think he will do any different on this job?

Most people are extremely particular of the person they hire and look very carefully at the person's reputation. Just out of curiosity, why are people's expectations of a president any different? No I have no idea yet how he will do in office.

Should I give him the benefit of the doubt that he is a changed man? I mean most people become upset when you point out he is a piece of shit. They expect the entire country to feel like Trump is legitimate in his intents and to forgive him for being a lying corrupt piece of crap most of his life.

Based on the assessment of most people's values and assuming that is what flies with people and what they do and don't consider when voting for the POTUS, then according to most people's expectations it's easier to be the president of the United States then it is to get a job in a fucking kitchen.

:shrug: ok but you are right, we will see how he does. We do not know yet.


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: koods]
    #23823052 - 11/11/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I've been bitching about the EC for years. It is a fundamentally unfair system that not only gives people who live in low population states more power, it also means there can never really be a competitive three way race. If nobody gets 270 votes in election, the decision is handed over the establishment in the house and they decide. There is no reason to even think about a presidential election in terms of states. Everyone gets to vote for a president who represents everyone. It's not about states at all. That is what the senate is for.

The electoral college is affirmative action for people who live in low population jurisdictions. It makes absolutely no sense. You could win the election despite getting as little as 25% of the vote. It is an absolutely bizarre system that is rooted in giving slave states more power since a lot of the population only counted as 3/5 of a person. Why are we retaining such an ill conceived system?




Because

Thinking

Effort

It takes

Says yoda

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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: koods] * 1
    #23823071 - 11/11/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

First things first, we need to address the rampant Democrat voter fraud, get rid of voting machines or make the source code transparent and available for independent auditing, institute voter ID laws, set up provisions to detect dead person votes, put a halt to busing people around to vote multiple times in multiple places, and so on and so forth.

Getting rid of the electoral college is not the foremost priority for ensuring fair elections. Putting a definitive end to Democrat cheating is.


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: Great Scott]
    #23823103 - 11/11/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The fundamental priority in any fair election is the person who gets the most votes wins. Why even worry about anything else if you can't even start with a baseline principle like that?


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: Great Scott]
    #23823105 - 11/11/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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First things first, we need to address the rampant Democrat voter fraud, get rid of voting machines or make the source code transparent and available for independent auditing, institute voter ID laws, set up provisions to detect dead person votes, put a halt to busing people around to vote multiple times in multiple places, and so on and so forth.

Getting rid of the electoral college is not the foremost priority for ensuring fair elections. Putting a definitive end to Democrat cheating is.



What a crock of shit. Fantasies and projection. On the contrary the courts have made the decision that the Republican party engages in voter intimidation and it is clear as day what voting rights restrictions and gerrymandering  are for.


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: ohcrapitsnico] * 1
    #23823200 - 11/11/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

They don't care. The system we have now is affirmative action for republican voters. Democrats get more votes in house races. More votes in senate races and more votes for the president. Yet, the republicans control everything. We can't even get our fucking Supreme Court nominees through. Why would they want to change it?


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: MushroomMomo] * 1
    #23823292 - 11/11/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm really confused. Weren't there literally millions of dead/illegal votes for Hillary during the election? Funny how that combined with media bias couldn't get her the electoral votes.



Yes you are confused.


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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: koods]
    #23823302 - 11/11/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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They don't care. The system we have now is affirmative action for republican voters. Democrats get more votes in house races. More votes in senate races and more votes for the president. Yet, the republicans control everything. We can't even get our fucking Supreme Court nominees through. Why would they want to change it?




I thought you supported affirmative action?

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MushroomMomo said:
I'm really confused. Weren't there literally millions of dead/illegal votes for Hillary during the election? Funny how that combined with media bias couldn't get her the electoral votes.



Yes you are confused.




I'm confused too, was the Hildabeast that bad of a candidate, that even voter fraud and all of the media covering for her couldn't get her elected?

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Re: 2016 US ELECTION OFFCIAL Chat Thread [Re: koods]
    #23823620 - 11/11/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm curious, what do you guys think about Trump saying he may keep some parts of Obamacare?

Although it's true that some parts of Obamacare are widely popular, he has previously said that he would completely get rid of it. This does constitute walking his previous position back a bit, but then again when hasn't he walked things back, and is anyone actually upset about it?

Anyway, it's interesting because it shows an ability to compromise or moderate on certain issues. If he's willing to compromise on Obamacare (one of his biggest promises) this early on, imagine all the other things he might be willing to compromise on later. You could end up with a moderate on the supreme court.


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