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1st grow hiccups
    #23803045 - 11/05/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So I'm about 2 months into this project with BRF cakes and B+ strain.

4 pint sized cakes have been in fruiting for the past 1 month.

I initially got 2 giant fruit total and maybe 2 tiny fruit and then nothing for weeks so I got suspicious. 

Dunked the cakes for 24 hours, and a week later I'm getting 10-20 pins on each cake, but they seem to be aborting.  Barely growing and they just don't look healthy. The mushrooms themselves look dry and chapped if that makes sense.  The heads are a duller, drier shade of brown than few mushrooms that grew to maturity.

I am misting the SGFC 3x a day and fanning about 8x. Room temp is 65-70 maintained by a radiator style space heater on the other side of the room.

I will be leaving for Africa for a medical service trip at the end of the month, so I would like to at least have a few decent fruit out of this project before I have to pack it up.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: 1st grow hiccups [Re: SwedSpicoli]
    #23803094 - 11/05/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You shouldn't be fanning more times than you mist.
Fanning is done after misting.
You shouldn't be misting 3x a day it should be 0-5 or whatever it needs that day not just automatically three.
Pictures help

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Re: 1st grow hiccups [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23803139 - 11/05/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How do I know when it's time to mist/fan?

There are also a ton of pins forming under the cake somehow.

I'm excited I've made it this far without contam issues or any other slip ups, but it would be nice to have something to show for all the thought and effort I've put into it.

These pins have looked this way for about 2 days.

I know patience is key in this hobby, but it's frustrating since I'm on a timeline as I'll have to wrap it all up in 3 weeks.



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Re: 1st grow hiccups [Re: SwedSpicoli]
    #23803188 - 11/05/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You mist then fan and wait for the moisture on the cakes to just about dissipate and repeat. Don't want them dry but you also don't want them constantly soaked

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Re: 1st grow hiccups [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #23803191 - 11/05/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They are growing under the cake because youve created a better environment there for them to grow there. You mist when you cant see any moisture on the surface of the cakes.


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Re: 1st grow hiccups [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23803236 - 11/05/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

why are 1st growers always under time constraints?

it can be tricky to judge when a cake needs misting. its something you know
through experience. mist one cake less..mist another more. see what they prefer.
then you learn how to understand what the mushroom is telling you(grow wise)

EDIT:
just noticed.. those cakes have been fruiting for a month? damn.
8x a day fanning is insane. a SGFC has passive air flow.
the fanning is done to help evaporation off the cake(pinning trigger)
fanning has no other purpose than that.

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Re: 1st grow hiccups [Re: mushboy]
    #23803264 - 11/05/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I should start cataloging that phenomenon. I have noticed the same trends. Maybe it's a lie to try to get the "secret automated fruiting chamber information"

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Re: 1st grow hiccups [Re: mushboy]
    #23803268 - 11/05/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

when I started, it was just to learn something. No pressure for time.

I had an opportunity to travel to South Africa for some service work come up.  It was unexpected, so now I'm under a time crunch.

I have a layer of verm on top of the cakes that I am keeping moist.  Otherwise I'm misting and fanning til the rest of the cake is dry as suggested.

Ends up being 5-10 squirts from spray bottle 2 ft overhead not directly at the cakes and 1-2 min of fanning with the lid.

Why would there be a better environment under the cakes? I've got my properly built SGFC exposed to indirect sunlight from a window in a 70 degree room.

Any other reason why I'm getting aborts/small fruit?

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Re: 1st grow hiccups [Re: mushboy]
    #23803276 - 11/05/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I was getting fuzzy mycelium growth up the stems of the mushrooms, which I was told was from low FAE, so I upped the fanning. No more fuzz...

They colonized in 4 weeks. Consolidated for 1. Dunked and Birthed October 10th. It's now November 5th. I know I'm being impatient, but I just want to know what I'm doing wrong.

Edited by SwedSpicoli (11/05/16 12:40 PM)

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Re: 1st grow hiccups [Re: SwedSpicoli]
    #23803975 - 11/05/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Fanning aint a substitute for fae, the amount youd need to fan to simulate fae is realisticly not possible for the average person I.e. job, life to live etc.
pics of your set up would assist us


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Re: 1st grow hiccups [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23805503 - 11/06/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just misted, tahts why there are droplets on the walls.  Perlite layer is 4-5 inches thick.

Radiator space heater in the room keeping temp at 70-75.


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Re: 1st grow [Re: SwedSpicoli]
    #23805772 - 11/06/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like your hiccups went away.


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Re: 1st grow [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #23805923 - 11/06/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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wtfcrazymofo said:
Looks like your hiccups went away.




Not really. A month of barely any pinning, and now lots of aborting pins.

Something seems wrong..

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Re: 1st grow [Re: SwedSpicoli]
    #23805966 - 11/06/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Did you make a great flood when you noticed pins? Don't mist pins direct.


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Re: 1st grow [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #23813136 - 11/08/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Should I flip the cake to expose the many pins underneath the cake to mist & fresh air?

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