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Coffee + Kratom
#23812875 - 11/08/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Such a nice combo! I usually avoid coffee as it makes me jittery and anxious but kratom smooths it out and adds to the uplifting effects 
They are in the same family so its not surprising they go so well together. Anyone else noticed this?
Throw in some cannabis and you are set
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tThey taste well together too. I used to love kratom coffee tea.
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I focus better with both than with coffee alone. It's a great combo for starting the day off right. I don't like to use this combination daily but it is very pleasant and productivity enhancing.
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most definitely. what a great synergy.
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Re: Coffee + Kratom [Re: mycoprog]
#23812945 - 11/08/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Kratom and soda is a good combo too. Anything with caffeine really.
Just took my last drug test for probation today, not off for 2 more months but my PO said that was my final drug test.. Might smoke a bowl later. Shit its been 1.5 years. I dont even remember what getting high was like anymore.
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ak47myth said: Kratom and soda is a good combo too. Anything with caffeine really.
Just took my last drug test for probation today, not off for 2 more months but my PO said that was my final drug test.. Might smoke a bowl later. Shit its been 1.5 years. I dont even remember what getting high was like anymore.
Congrats man! Get nice and baked and listen to some tunes and or watch some ridiculous stuff 
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CookieCrumbs said: tThey taste well together too. I used to love kratom coffee tea.
Never tried mixing em but I could see that! Black coffee tastes so strong I bet it masks the bitterness of Kratom pretty well.
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ShroomDoom said: I focus better with both than with coffee alone. It's a great combo for starting the day off right. I don't like to use this combination daily but it is very pleasant and productivity enhancing.
I may try and start going coffee - kratom - cannabis in my mornings. Should be more energizing then kratom - cannabis - coffee I bet.
Kratom and cannabis I use daily but I try to keep to small amounts especially with kratom. I almost never use coffee.
Today is my second day in a row of making it and second time in months
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Thanks dude. Feels good. Lucky that my friend gave me a gram that ive been sitting on for a couple months now. Might take a hit later tonight. If i do ill make a post.
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Re: Coffee + Kratom [Re: ak47myth]
#23813123 - 11/08/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your very welcome I bet it feels good! Got to love friends being generous too 
I love having a low tolerance but the first tokes are always so intense I almost prefer having my regular tolerance so I don't get much anxiety.
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What do you guys add to your coffee?
Lately I have been mixing in powdered cinnamon and turmeric as well as a medicinal mushroom powder blend and some coco
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coconut oil. but if chasing a toss and wash i will add sugaaa.
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Re: Coffee + Kratom [Re: mycoprog]
#23813212 - 11/08/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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mycoprog said: coconut oil. but if chasing a toss and wash i will add sugaaa.
Interesting, do you use the oil instead of milk/ cream?
Ever tried "bulletpoof coffee"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletproof_Coffee
I used to make it with ghee butter and it is the creamiest coffee I have ever had by far
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Re: Coffee + Kratom [Re: mycoprog]
#23813378 - 11/08/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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mycoprog said: coconut oil. but if chasing a toss and wash i will add sugaaa.
you drink coconut oil like water?
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musiclover420 said: What do you guys add to your coffee?
Lately I have been mixing in powdered cinnamon and turmeric as well as a medicinal mushroom powder blend and some coco 
That's interesting. I usually just go with milk or half n half and a sweet n low or splenda packet. Idm black coffee but it has to be some quality shit.
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Re: Coffee + Kratom [Re: T-Rex]
#23813424 - 11/08/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said:
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mycoprog said: coconut oil. but if chasing a toss and wash i will add sugaaa.
Interesting, do you use the oil instead of milk/ cream?
Ever tried "bulletpoof coffee"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletproof_Coffee
I used to make it with ghee butter and it is the creamiest coffee I have ever had by far 
Yeah, in place of. my lady loves bulletproof. she turned me on to it recently and you are right, its awesome
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mycoprog said: coconut oil. but if chasing a toss and wash i will add sugaaa.
you drink coconut oil like water?
haha no,
I add it to coffee.
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What goes into your medical mushie mix ?
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I feel like the medicinal stuff really enhances the coffee! Haven't had any anxiety or jitters really the past 2 times I drank this coffee mix.
Turmeric is so great I have been trying to put it in everything that masks its flavor. The medicinal mushroom mix tastes pretty strong too so I usually put it in sweet drinks like hot coco.
Bulletproof coffee is even more interesting, I think I have some ghee butter so I will have to try it with a mix of medicinal herbs/ fungi.
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CookieCrumbs said: What goes into your medical mushie mix ?
It is a pre made mix I buy from Dragonfly Earth Medicine and includes:
Chaga Rieshi Cordyceps Turkey Tail Lions Main & Agarikon
I forget how much it costs but it is some good stuff! Tastes like dirt and is pretty potent so I just add a few dashes wherever I can.
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I've been wanting to get more into medicinal mushrooms. With a kratom ban in the foreseeable future I'm willing to try most anything that won't hurt me or have me strung out.
me if you remember the price of your products, I'd definitely like to know if it'll be worth trying before another thing. I'm imagining I could grind and cap them ?
Turmeric never did much for me sadly. I heard it's great for inflammation but it didn't do anything for what I suspected is inflammation discomfort. May not be, or may be because I didn't divide the doses, or maybe cuz I just didn't take enough for my shoddy liver to process enough of it.
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I looked around online but don't see the info on their site or their products listed elsewhere. Medicinal fungi in general are very worth trying if you have not!
Read up on a few of them such as reishi and cordyceps if you have not already and pick out the ones that seem most beneficial and you can find em online.
The stuff I have is already a fine powder but you could buy the whole mushrooms and powder em yourself pretty easily I bet.
Chaga is really hard though I believe and might be harder to powder. It is very common in many parts of the world though and is a traditional gypsy medicine! Someone on here was touting its benefits on the brain and how it improves psychedelics and or makes a bad experience less likely becouse it rejuvenates the brain with a lot of various healthy things it needs.
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Coffee as soon as it kicks in always. Very nice.
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musiclover420 said: Such a nice combo! I usually avoid coffee as it makes me jittery and anxious but kratom smooths it out and adds to the uplifting effects 
They are in the same family so its not surprising they go so well together. Anyone else noticed this?
Throw in some cannabis and you are set 
Yessssssssss its an awesome combo.
Add in weed and it can become even better. Sometimes i add a little nicotine, a low dose of pharm opiates or an antihistamine.
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Probably a third of my posts from the bump this thread thread are me enjoying my normal breakfast of coffee, kratom, cigarettes.
Not always a daily thing but I go through phases depending on life situations and shut.
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Just made my first bulletproof coffee in awhile 3rd day in a row with coffee too so I will take a nice break after today.
 
2 Small spoons of ghee butter, 10+ dashes of turmeric, 2 of cinnamon, powdered coco + medicinal fungi blend and a little bit of cayenne pepper.
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The only thing which has bothered my stomach with kratom, was green tea, but I made the green tea very strong (3 bags) and I got very queasy from drinking it after dosing, and threw up.
This has happened to me two times, but with coffee I have no problem.
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Re: Coffee + Kratom [Re: Lucis]
#23816406 - 11/09/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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kratom redose within 4 hours on empty stomach guarantees im puking.
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Fennario said: The only thing which has bothered my stomach with kratom, was green tea, but I made the green tea very strong (3 bags) and I got very queasy from drinking it after dosing, and threw up.
This has happened to me two times, but with coffee I have no problem.
Green tea has made me throw up on its own before. Interesting coffee doesn't upset yor stomach, I would imagine it being harder on the stomach if anything.
Kratom on its own also has made me throw up if I eat more then a few grams at once on an empty stomach 
I have a weak stomach for many things it seems 
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nuentoter said: kratom redose within 4 hours on empty stomach guarantees im puking.
Kratom boosts the metabolism I believe so taking too much without any food seems hard on the stomach.
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Kratom + Guayusa =
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flickedbic said: Kratom + Guayusa = 
Interesting, never heard of Guayusa but apparently one of the other 2 caffeinated relatives is Yerba Mate
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Neither tea nor coffe have ever made me throw up and i drink alot of iced tea and black coffee.
Ive felt really sick from taking too much kratom. Like when i get to 9-10 grams within a few hours. I went from so euphoric to sick.
Once i left my scale at my friends house and found a chart for grams per table spoon and i used heaping table spoons. I drank it slow just incase but it was so much that that didnt even matter.
To this day it was the highest ive ever been from kratom. It blows codeine completely out of the water no question about it.
even though i havent acctually taken very large doses of codeine because i quickly decided its not fun without an antihistamine and weed.
But it was green malay so i wasnt really nodding i was quite energized but relaxed and really high. But it only lasted like an hour or so then i became extremely sick and any movement at all would give me motion sickness. I came very close to throwing up.
My friend takes 1-3 grams and says i take way too much. I start with 5 grams and see how i feel. I like to take my redoses close together so i can just ride the wave instead of coming down and trying to get high again because that will not happen with kratom.
Sorry for the moonshoesque length of my post. Im on kratom and cant stop typing.
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Was it "opiate" nausea/ sickness? Strong red veins can do that to me at just 2-3g I have not used any other opioids though.
Have you tried starting lower after a tolerance break? Everyone is different but I have found 1-2g to be my sweetspot especially for prolonged use.
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Yeah it was opiate sickness. The same as i jave had riding in a car on percs but way stronger
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musiclover420 said: Was it "opiate" nausea/ sickness? Strong red veins can do that to me at just 2-3g I have not used any other opioids though.
Have you tried starting lower after a tolerance break? Everyone is different but I have found 1-2g to be my sweetspot especially for prolonged use.
3 grams used to be enough then i went to 3.5-4. Or 4-4.5 for the white strain i had that was kind if weak.
but after that time i measured with a spoon and hot super high i loke taking large doses alot. I should cut back. Right now i do it three days in a row then take a one day breakm sometimes ill take the kreak after only two days. Sometimes i take 2 days in between
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BANANA.MAN said: Yeah it was opiate sickness. The same as i jave had riding in a car on percs but way stronger
knda weird, but EXACTLY how it is.
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Even a 1 day break can make a decent difference. You may be able to get by taking less after closer to a week long break though.
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when i started even though 3.5 grams was awesome it wasnt as strong at 5 grams now so tolerence isnt a very big issue for me.
Infact tolerence is a good thing because i dont get that pressure in my eyes when i try to focus aka the wobbles. Its suuuuuper uncomfortable. But i could take ten grams in a day (initial dose of 5 grams then redoses ranging from 0.5-2.0g) and not get the wobbles now.
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