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nuentoter
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Probably a third of my posts from the bump this thread thread are me enjoying my normal breakfast of coffee, kratom, cigarettes.
Not always a daily thing but I go through phases depending on life situations and shut.
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The geometry of us is no chance. We are antennae, we are tuning forks, we are receiver and transmitters of all energy. We are more than we know. - @entheolove "I found I could say things with color and shapes that I couldn't say any other way - things I had no words for" - Georgia O'Keefe I think the word is vagina
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musiclover420
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Just made my first bulletproof coffee in awhile 3rd day in a row with coffee too so I will take a nice break after today.
 
2 Small spoons of ghee butter, 10+ dashes of turmeric, 2 of cinnamon, powdered coco + medicinal fungi blend and a little bit of cayenne pepper.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Lucis
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The only thing which has bothered my stomach with kratom, was green tea, but I made the green tea very strong (3 bags) and I got very queasy from drinking it after dosing, and threw up.
This has happened to me two times, but with coffee I have no problem.
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nuentoter
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Re: Coffee + Kratom [Re: Lucis]
#23816406 - 11/09/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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kratom redose within 4 hours on empty stomach guarantees im puking.
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The geometry of us is no chance. We are antennae, we are tuning forks, we are receiver and transmitters of all energy. We are more than we know. - @entheolove "I found I could say things with color and shapes that I couldn't say any other way - things I had no words for" - Georgia O'Keefe I think the word is vagina
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musiclover420
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Fennario said: The only thing which has bothered my stomach with kratom, was green tea, but I made the green tea very strong (3 bags) and I got very queasy from drinking it after dosing, and threw up.
This has happened to me two times, but with coffee I have no problem.
Green tea has made me throw up on its own before. Interesting coffee doesn't upset yor stomach, I would imagine it being harder on the stomach if anything.
Kratom on its own also has made me throw up if I eat more then a few grams at once on an empty stomach 
I have a weak stomach for many things it seems 
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nuentoter said: kratom redose within 4 hours on empty stomach guarantees im puking.
Kratom boosts the metabolism I believe so taking too much without any food seems hard on the stomach.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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flickedbic
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Kratom + Guayusa =
-------------------- Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order: 1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine 2)Amanita (urine drank twice) 3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose) 4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators) 5)Salvia (need to try quid)
All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental. Blessing.
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musiclover420
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flickedbic said: Kratom + Guayusa = 
Interesting, never heard of Guayusa but apparently one of the other 2 caffeinated relatives is Yerba Mate
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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BANANA.MAN
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Neither tea nor coffe have ever made me throw up and i drink alot of iced tea and black coffee.
Ive felt really sick from taking too much kratom. Like when i get to 9-10 grams within a few hours. I went from so euphoric to sick.
Once i left my scale at my friends house and found a chart for grams per table spoon and i used heaping table spoons. I drank it slow just incase but it was so much that that didnt even matter.
To this day it was the highest ive ever been from kratom. It blows codeine completely out of the water no question about it.
even though i havent acctually taken very large doses of codeine because i quickly decided its not fun without an antihistamine and weed.
But it was green malay so i wasnt really nodding i was quite energized but relaxed and really high. But it only lasted like an hour or so then i became extremely sick and any movement at all would give me motion sickness. I came very close to throwing up.
My friend takes 1-3 grams and says i take way too much. I start with 5 grams and see how i feel. I like to take my redoses close together so i can just ride the wave instead of coming down and trying to get high again because that will not happen with kratom.
Sorry for the moonshoesque length of my post. Im on kratom and cant stop typing.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (11/09/16 03:28 PM)
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musiclover420
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Was it "opiate" nausea/ sickness? Strong red veins can do that to me at just 2-3g I have not used any other opioids though.
Have you tried starting lower after a tolerance break? Everyone is different but I have found 1-2g to be my sweetspot especially for prolonged use.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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BANANA.MAN
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Yeah it was opiate sickness. The same as i jave had riding in a car on percs but way stronger
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BANANA.MAN
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musiclover420 said: Was it "opiate" nausea/ sickness? Strong red veins can do that to me at just 2-3g I have not used any other opioids though.
Have you tried starting lower after a tolerance break? Everyone is different but I have found 1-2g to be my sweetspot especially for prolonged use.
3 grams used to be enough then i went to 3.5-4. Or 4-4.5 for the white strain i had that was kind if weak.
but after that time i measured with a spoon and hot super high i loke taking large doses alot. I should cut back. Right now i do it three days in a row then take a one day breakm sometimes ill take the kreak after only two days. Sometimes i take 2 days in between
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nuentoter
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BANANA.MAN said: Yeah it was opiate sickness. The same as i jave had riding in a car on percs but way stronger
knda weird, but EXACTLY how it is.
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The geometry of us is no chance. We are antennae, we are tuning forks, we are receiver and transmitters of all energy. We are more than we know. - @entheolove "I found I could say things with color and shapes that I couldn't say any other way - things I had no words for" - Georgia O'Keefe I think the word is vagina
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musiclover420
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Even a 1 day break can make a decent difference. You may be able to get by taking less after closer to a week long break though.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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BANANA.MAN
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when i started even though 3.5 grams was awesome it wasnt as strong at 5 grams now so tolerence isnt a very big issue for me.
Infact tolerence is a good thing because i dont get that pressure in my eyes when i try to focus aka the wobbles. Its suuuuuper uncomfortable. But i could take ten grams in a day (initial dose of 5 grams then redoses ranging from 0.5-2.0g) and not get the wobbles now.
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