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mantis83
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5-meo-dmt
#23812664 - 11/08/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am wondering if this is as sacred/spiritual as some people say that it is? I don't know, I have no experience with this. But I would like to try and reach cosmic consciousness but don't know if its possible. But the things I have heard about this are so varied that I don't know what to make of it. Some people say its the most awful experience they've ever had wouldn't wish to repeat it ever, whereas some people say quite the opposite, that it is the greatest entheogen they've ever experienced. Oh well, I appreciate the input from fellow shroomery members. Thanks,
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musiclover420
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5meo is probably not meant to be used on its own honestly. Pretty much everything it occurs in naturally it is mixed in with at least a few other tryptamines most commonly dmt and nmt but also bufotenin and some others.
In theory reaching "cosmic consciousness" is possible without drugs.
That said ayahuasca and psychedelics in general may be a shortcut of sorts.
It is so potent that dosing it on its own would be intense and take a lot of caution.
I have heard interesting oral 5meo stories that were surprisingly different then smoked stories.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Ifitbeyourwill
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Ralph metzner highly suggests snuffing it and finds it very useful.
I would read the book "The Toad and the Jaguar" first
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nooneman


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I've never heard it being described as "sacred" or "spiritual" mostly just overpowering, stoning, and confusing. I've mostly just heard negative things about it over the years.
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musiclover420
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nooneman said: I've never heard it being described as "sacred" or "spiritual" mostly just overpowering, stoning, and confusing. I've mostly just heard negative things about it over the years.
Read up some reports on it like this one: https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=3944
People often overdo it with 5meo as it is very potent. It can be just as sacred and spiritual as NN DMT though.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Ifitbeyourwill
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I have heard great things about it. They call it the God molecule out there...
They key is the dosage seems to be super critical (10mg vs 12mg makes a difference), snuffing seems to be better, and it interacts with MAOI inhibitors and SSRIs that could let to even death so one should be super careful and a sitter is absolutely necessary. also starting with small dosages.
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nooneman


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No one calls it the god molecule.
It's possible that some people have had good experiences with it, but they are vastly outnumbered by the people who have had neutral or bad experiences with it.
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Ifitbeyourwill
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from Tihkal:
(with 15 mg, smoked) "At about 60 seconds after I smoked this free base, I beheld every thought that was going on everywhere in the universe and all possible realities while I was wracked out with this horrible ruthless love. It scared the hell out of me. When I could see again (15 minutes later) it was almost as if there was an echo of a thought in my head saying that I was given an extremely rare look at the true consciousness of it all. I've never been hit this hard since then. A definite ++++."
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Ifitbeyourwill
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musiclover420
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nooneman said: No one calls it the god molecule.
It's possible that some people have had good experiences with it, but they are vastly outnumbered by the people who have had neutral or bad experiences with it.
So you speak for everyone now? 
It is not just possible plenty of people have had amazing experiences with it. You should look around and read some.
Don't you think its possible so many people had bad experiences with it becouse they started with too much? Salvia is also very notorious but is one of the most powerful natural psychedelics and was considered sacred by Mexican natives. It can be very intense or very relaxing and beautiful depending on how it is used. Don't blame the substance for peoples misuse.
https://erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_5MeODMT.shtml
There are practically 50/50% positive and negative experiences on there so clearly contrary to your beliefs plenty of people have had had good times too.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Eggtimer
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-------------------- It's all for the s
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JacksonMetaller
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There's a book, "Tryptamine Palace" that is all about one guys adventures with 5-meo-dmt. He holds it in very high regard. Might be worth a read. Definitely got me interested in the substance
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Dmt_psilocybin
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nooneman said: No one calls it the god molecule.
It's possible that some people have had good experiences with it, but they are vastly outnumbered by the people who have had neutral or bad experiences with it.
People refer to n-n-dmt as the god molecule and the spirit molecule.
-------------------- MDMA is over rated
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ShadeOfDeepPurple


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Would be nice if there were a viable plant source available.
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healing
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ShadeOfDeepPurple said: Would be nice if there were a viable plant source available.
If I remember correctly, I was reading about a successful plant based extraction of 5-MeO-DMT. I think that it's possible, but very difficult to accomplish for someone who doesn't have experience in a chemistry laboratory. I'll see if I can find a link for you.
Edit: this is what I was reading https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=7307&p=2
It's not even as difficult as I remember it being.
-------------------- Open mind, open heart, open book.
Edited by healing (11/09/16 11:33 PM)
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