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TheShroomster01
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First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs
#23812248 - 11/08/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello guys!
I'm about to break up my fully colonized jars after waiting what feels like ages.
As this picture shows I currently have 6 B+ jars (rye), 4 blue oyster mushroom jars (WBS) and, 2 Koh Samui jars (rye). Mentioned from left to right.

My plan here was to do a spawn rate at 1:2, being 1 spawn to 2 substrate. I think I've got that part right but please correct me if i'm wrong.
I'll do 3 smaller mono tubs (39x39cm), a very pretty looking neon green laundry basket which I've violated with a pair of scissors, and this black bucket.

My substrate is going to be CVG for the bucket and tubs. The basket is going to be made with straw and gypsum only.
I do have a few minor questions though.
Mono tubs: The number of holes in the tubs are one on each side, to in the top and to at the bottom. Would i be fine here, since it's a small tub?
The bucket tek: Regarding the bucket my concern lies on the fact that i do not have a lid for it. What is the best solution? I've thought about aluminum foil but idk. And how important is it that NOTHING enters it from the air meanwhile pasteurizing the CV?
Laundry basket tek: I've seen RR's video many of times and he's incubation his basket in a larger tub with a lot of holes in it. Is this necessary? I have a large SAB which i really don't have any use for anymore, but there are two fairly large holes for the hands in it. I thought about just covering them with duct tape. Would it work?
If you have any other thoughts about my project, or think that I'm doing anything wrong, please let me know! This will be my first grow, so I'd like it to be successful!
Thanks in advance!
-------------------- I'm European, i can't help it. "To harvest a cannabis plant to make hash corresponds to slaughtering a cow to make milk. Rub it!"
Edited by TheShroomster01 (11/08/16 10:06 AM)
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bodhisatta 
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: TheShroomster01]
#23812254 - 11/08/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21032606/fpart/all/vc/1 For monotubs that are small
For the bucket you want a lid to hold heat. The air poses no problem you'll be touching it with your hands anyway.
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TheShroomster01
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: bodhisatta]
#23812404 - 11/08/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the link. It seems that my top holes are to large. Would it dry out i did nothing or should i cover the holes with tape and poke a few smallere once in the tape?
I guess a hot plate can do the job as a lid holding in the heat.
-------------------- I'm European, i can't help it. "To harvest a cannabis plant to make hash corresponds to slaughtering a cow to make milk. Rub it!"
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: TheShroomster01]
#23812418 - 11/08/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I leave the lids completely off or half way off on my tubs for most of the day. You'll just have to get a feel for it and adjust as needed.
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TheShroomster01
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: bodhisatta]
#23812459 - 11/08/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah okay. But i'm guessing your tubs are larger and contains more water and therefore does not dry out as fast?
I will be fruiting at around 23c as i will be doing it in the same room that i colonize my jars. What would be the most effecient way to rehydrate the tubs if they get too dry?
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: bodhisatta]
#23812462 - 11/08/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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For your oysters I'd use more substrate.
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TheShroomster01
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: cronicr]
#23812474 - 11/08/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I follow you in that thought. The mycelium have been rather aggressive. How much lower do you think the rate should be?
-------------------- I'm European, i can't help it. "To harvest a cannabis plant to make hash corresponds to slaughtering a cow to make milk. Rub it!"
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TheShroomster01
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: TheShroomster01]
#23812981 - 11/08/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If anyone have any thoughts on this they are more than welcome.
-------------------- I'm European, i can't help it. "To harvest a cannabis plant to make hash corresponds to slaughtering a cow to make milk. Rub it!"
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: TheShroomster01]
#23813052 - 11/08/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd go 1 to 4 at the very least
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TheShroomster01
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: cronicr]
#23813143 - 11/08/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Very well..
The basket is h25xw30xw43, so i guess the four jars fits the size with 1:4 rate.
-------------------- I'm European, i can't help it. "To harvest a cannabis plant to make hash corresponds to slaughtering a cow to make milk. Rub it!"
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TheShroomster01
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: TheShroomster01]
#23816394 - 11/09/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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As far as the mini tubs goes, I've made a plastic cover for the bottom. I have made it from a rather thick plastic and then attached with velcro. Lets no light in. Pretty neat i think.

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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: TheShroomster01]
#23816692 - 11/09/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It looks cool and you probably can wrap the shit out of some presents but the liner is supposed to go inside.
Reasons being :
It will shrink with your sub when the myc eats it and prevents a micro climate helping to prevent side pinning
To make harvesting easier, so you can lift the sub out
Edited by Th3Issu3 (11/09/16 04:02 PM)
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tump
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: Th3Issu3]
#23816922 - 11/09/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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For the oysters and straw you can get away with a 1:10 rate. If you dont have a green house the best you can do it make a tent for it form a clear trash bag that has pin size holes all over it. You want to mist it twice a day if not more. By the way the 1:10 for straw works for cubes as well. You might want to make a cube basket one day if it goes well for you
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TheShroomster01
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: Th3Issu3]
#23817054 - 11/09/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Th3Issu3 said: It looks cool and you probably can wrap the shit out of some presents but the liner is supposed to go inside.
Reasons being :
It will shrink with your sub when the myc eats it and prevents a micro climate helping to prevent side pinning
I thank you for the compliment!
Well i guess side pins aren't a problem as the myc block shrinks. Won't they be easier to access then? But if there's no way around it I'll have to put it in side.
Okay that's a pretty low rate. Maybe i should try two baskets from the four jars then. Do i mist directly on the straw? It will be fruiting in a mini GH i have.
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: TheShroomster01]
#23817895 - 11/09/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
RogerRabbit said: By Visions method if I remember correctly, you're not supposed to mist the sides. Let them dry out, and the dry straw serves as the contamination barrier. He poured water down from the top.
I do it a bit different by placing in a bag or large tote with holes cut into it for gas exchange. This keeps the CO2 levels higher during colonization, which actually prevents the mycelium from turning as much of the subsrate carbon into CO2, which reduces the size of the substrate greatly.
About a week after full colonization, I introduce to the normal fruiting conditions of high humidity and lots of air exchange. I don't fruit them in open air unless it's the rainy season outdoors, in which case I set them on the back porch to fruit. You can see a short, low resolution preview video of the way I do it on my website. RR
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TheShroomster01
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: tump]
#23819759 - 11/10/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay cool. What ever RR say is law. I guess the SAB would be fine with some tape.
-------------------- I'm European, i can't help it. "To harvest a cannabis plant to make hash corresponds to slaughtering a cow to make milk. Rub it!"
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TheShroomster01
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: TheShroomster01]
#23823315 - 11/11/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Today i finished the three mini tubs and the bucket. I used Exo Terra Plantation soil. I got it pretty cheap i think. I don't know what it cost in the US but i payed $7.5 for three blocks.

I mixed what i needed together and poured water in and left it for about 15 minutes. After that i could break it up and mixed it further. Left it again for about 10 minutes and then corrected it to field capacity with a tad more verm.
  
As far as the substrate prep and pasteurization goes, i kindda followed Frank's Simple coir/verm tek and his 'Proper Pasteurization' tek. I did it the RR way.
The three tubs and the bucket after mixing in:
 I know about the plastic on the outside but I'm the type that have to make my own mistakes. I can't just always blindly trust people i have to try. I guess I'm just that stubborn. I do have more jars colonizing as writing so next time i will put the liner in side.
The bucket got prepared as the tubs though. The 'bucket tek' i was thinking of when writing the first post wasn't really a tek. It was the Bucket o' Fungus i had in mind doing. I hope it turns out great.
I will be doing the basket tomorrow or within the next couple of days anyway. Whenever i find a tek to follow which is not RR's "prep-in-tub" tek. But soon it will be because the jars are completely filled with mycelium.
 I think these dark/orangeish spots are color-extracts from the kernels. Can anyone verify that? I broke one of the jars of last week, which also had some spots, and it recovered with no problems. It also smelled like fresh mushrooms through the filter.
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: TheShroomster01]
#23823333 - 11/11/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oysters will do that to grains looks fine.
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: TheShroomster01]
#23823356 - 11/11/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nice work 
Next time if you just use coir/verm proper pasteurization is not needed. You can use the 'bucket tek'. It is easier and safes you some effort.
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TheShroomster01
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Re: First time grower - Bucket tek - Laundery basket tek - Small Monotubs [Re: enlightenment]
#23823395 - 11/11/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for verifying cronicr. Glad I read them right.
Ty enlight. Yeah I've read the bucket tek but some how I don't feel secure in that tek.
Even though it have been proven to work obviously. I often like going the extra mile to be on the safe side.
Edit: Would it be worth it to get a hold on some horse manure and adding it to the coming tubs? I guess that's rhetorical question but you know. Newbies.
-------------------- I'm European, i can't help it. "To harvest a cannabis plant to make hash corresponds to slaughtering a cow to make milk. Rub it!"
Edited by TheShroomster01 (11/11/16 04:07 PM)
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