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Dark side
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Do you tap into/ enjoy your dark side?
Personally I believe that its just as important as our light; together they make a beautiful equilibrium.
Also do you find yourself whilst on psychoactive drugs using more of your dark powers or light powers?
Just curious how others feel about dark energy and how beneficial it can actually be to finding your you.
Feel free to discuss there is no right or wrong.
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Re: Dark side [Re: zersha]
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if by dark side you mean extreme selfishness in its many variations, then yes my dark side (as well as other's) is very apparent to me on psychoactive drugs. I'm not yet at a place where I can accept it, let alone enjoy it. its still too repulsive to me to integrate.
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For me there is no dark side or light side. Both are relative. You just are. It just is. I dont know if that makes any sense?
Being who you are doesnt really matter cause it is as it is, we are all one. We balance eachother out and the strongest survive. We all have the same mission, progress. Or atleast i think its progress, maybe its evolution i dont know.
But to answer your question, i like to be what makes me happy. If i have to hurt people for it and it doesnt affect my happiness i will. If it does i wont. You catch my drift?
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This oughtta draw in an interesting crowd. Yep, falling from God's grace certainly opens the gates of hell in the consciousness, with enough guilt to feel like you're standing in the middle of the sun, and just death and claustrophobia and fear closing in, but it's all controllable, in fact the occult is about the Absence or darkness, by turning it into light, that doesn't necessarily mean conditioning yourself to go killing people with a smile, it means understanding that the only thing that is quantifiable is consciousness and the division between matter and antimatter. Dark, light, fear, hate, love, guilt, forgiveness, comfort, interpretation, understanding, truth, courage, none of it is actually real. There is eternal Sunshine for the spotless mind. Even death is abstract, nothing doesn't exist, so we don't become nothing. There is a law of the universe that states (not that the universe functions by laws at all) that only something that is alive can create life, no machine or technology can ever create life (for now), so we all come from one consciousness, we're all the same person, all the same spirit, every creature is you, our self, and in essence we have or will have lived every instance of life that there is in the entire universe. Knowing that we've already died some of the most horrific deaths ever can certainly help us cope with the uncanny thought of not existing-the root of darkness
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bigdoodie said: falling from God's grace certainly opens the gates of hell in the consciousness,
I disagree, I think that god is the side you show people, your persona, who you want people to think you are at all times. The devil is your shadow, the things you keep from others, you don't want others to know about you.
To be a more complete human being, I think one must have marriage between god and the devil, the sun and moon, the dark and light.
There is much to be learned from the shadow side of who we are. I think many religions stunt our growth because they put a veil over reality, one must lift the veil to see reality for what it truly is. You can't live in truth if you only know one side of reality, reality is a coin, both sides of the coin must be observed for truth to be known, both sides must exist for it to be a coin. The same goes for people, we must know both god and the devil to understand the workings of our being, we must know our light and dark to have understanding.
I believe that when people are quick to point out that another persons opinion which is different than their own is from the pit of hell, or inspired by devils and demons so cannot be true, they're just not dealing with their own issues, and are projecting those insecurities onto others, or into the world, and this can lead to mental health disorders, religious fanaticism, and other acts which are not beneficial to the psyche or society.
If you're constantly seeing evil in others, then you're not dealing with the evil within yourself, and this has the potential to consume you in a negative way.
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Re: Dark side [Re: Lucis]
#23815308 - 11/09/16 06:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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bigdoodie said: falling from God's grace certainly opens the gates of hell in the consciousness,
To be a more complete human being, I think one must have marriage between god and the devil, the sun and moon, the dark and light.
Beautifully said I agree.
I didn't even necessarily mean dark side like going on a killing spree but more so of the communicating with/ working with "evil energys" to bring out the best you.
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bigdoodie said: so we all come from one consciousness, we're all the same person, all the same spirit, every creature is you, our self, and in essence we have or will have lived every instance of life that there is in the entire universe.
I feel the same looking at everything I see everything (if that makes sense) it's a truly beautiful way of looking at the universe
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Re: Dark side [Re: zersha]
#23817673 - 11/09/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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zersha said:
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bigdoodie said: so we all come from one consciousness, we're all the same person, all the same spirit, every creature is you, our self, and in essence we have or will have lived every instance of life that there is in the entire universe.
I feel the same looking at everything I see everything (if that makes sense) it's a truly beautiful way of looking at the universe
And then comes a question, what to do with that knowledge so it can become wisdom. I guess it has something to do with start acting like it. Acts of compassion starts to occur.
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bigdoodie said: so we all come from one consciousness, we're all the same person, all the same spirit, every creature is you, our self, and in essence we have or will have lived every instance of life that there is in the entire universe.
Same consciousness, not the same person.
I feel more complete with my "dark" side. Since I can remember I always liked listening to melancholic music and feel that I'm not a part of the herd. I live a pretty "regular" life and nobody can notice that I'm dark in any way, and I'm also not depressed or something. just that I find some kind of magic in the darkness, and I love the idea that I can play with it.
Sometimes I'm on the sunny side of the mountain, sure.
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Same consciousness is sort of acceptable psychiatrically, I mean, it would be too neutral a concept for them to say it's pathology, since they don't actually know whether it's true or not. Same person would be classed as deep pathology.
Of course, what you really are, is not the person, but the consciousness.
So it's just a juggle of words.
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I feel more complete with my "dark" side. Since I can remember I always liked listening to melancholic music and feel that I'm not a part of the herd. I live a pretty "regular" life and nobody can notice that I'm dark in any way, and I'm also not depressed or something. just that I find some kind of magic in the darkness, and I love the idea that I can play with it.
There is magic in it and looks to me you're using it perfectly. It's fun once you begin to toy with it.
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Re: Dark side [Re: zersha]
#23820778 - 11/10/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Either implies the other. With good/bad its a matter of perspective and what you're clinging to.
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Re: Dark side [Re: JForce]
#23821189 - 11/10/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Teachers rely on each other for cogent energy...and when the sun is solved...all salvation will be free...indeed it is the source of all energy..indeed it is free...in its awareness..to the degree of the time of the self...each object has an identity a destiny...and to go with the flow...is totally tao...so the total sum lot..is the disgusting little pure grain cat feed that we all need to go and blow the body builders...into and out of awareness...
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Re: Dark side [Re: Lucis]
#23821634 - 11/11/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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bigdoodie said: falling from God's grace certainly opens the gates of hell in the consciousness,
I disagree, I think that god is the side you show people, your persona, who you want people to think you are at all times. The devil is your shadow, the things you keep from others, you don't want others to know about you.
To be a more complete human being, I think one must have marriage between god and the devil, the sun and moon, the dark and light.
There is much to be learned from the shadow side of who we are. I think many religions stunt our growth because they put a veil over reality, one must lift the veil to see reality for what it truly is. You can't live in truth if you only know one side of reality, reality is a coin, both sides of the coin must be observed for truth to be known, both sides must exist for it to be a coin. The same goes for people, we must know both god and the devil to understand the workings of our being, we must know our light and dark to have understanding.
I believe that when people are quick to point out that another persons opinion which is different than their own is from the pit of hell, or inspired by devils and demons so cannot be true, they're just not dealing with their own issues, and are projecting those insecurities onto others, or into the world, and this can lead to mental health disorders, religious fanaticism, and other acts which are not beneficial to the psyche or society.
If you're constantly seeing evil in others, then you're not dealing with the evil within yourself, and this has the potential to consume you in a negative way.
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Re: Dark side [Re: phio]
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Hmmm, darkness is an object of subjection...or otherwise a subjective point of view...which is what objects are...or objectivism is all about...so whats the difference between subjective and objective?
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Honestly... it's more like the Jedi and the Sith than people realize. Not so dogmatic, but it is a struggle between the two.
Stare at the Light too long and you go blind. Live in Darkness too long and you go blind. The difference is one evolves blindness.
Evil is actually spelled EVOL... Love spelled backwards. Love is the highest form of being, Soul. Evol knows Love very well, terrified of it for one is beautiful while the other knows nothing but the gnash and lash. I would rather love something I will never understand than evolve into nothing. I serve Love unto the ends of time... forever and ever and always. It will be written. So long as one believes in the Source of One it will always be greater than the Source of None, always.
My God is the Sun, My God is the Moon, My God is everything around me. Love the wicked, for in their evil doings and maliciousness they allow Love to come forth and show it's power. Childlike belief in Love gives it power... something she will never understand for she is without.
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Re: Dark side [Re: LRG]
#23824215 - 11/11/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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'The word' seemingly transitions both light and dark and simply is. Mere physics in motion... everything playing its respective part.
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Re: Dark side [Re: phio]
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Yes, and you should too! Can't have full light side without understanding the dark side intimately imho
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They certainly love each other, light and dark. Cant find one without the other being around
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The 'balance' of dark vs light is relative only to the material universe.
On a productive, spiritual level geared towards atonement, 'dark' is so called and so defined different because it is no less than spiritual poison.
The fact that dark is in amongst light just exemplifies the chaos and the fortitude that needs to be exercised to strain out as much of the bad as possible to follow the right path which is regularly littered.
'Bad' and 'dark' aren't just terms or subjective notions. They are significant descriptors of anti-light - which is personal neglect and ultimate falsehood.
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Duncan Rowhl said: The 'balance' of dark vs light is relative only to the material universe.
On a productive, spiritual level geared towards atonement, 'dark' is so called and so defined different because it is no less than spiritual poison.
The fact that dark is in amongst light just exemplifies the chaos and the fortitude that needs to be exercised to strain out as much of the bad as possible to follow the right path which is regularly littered.
'Bad' and 'dark' aren't just terms or subjective notions. They are significant descriptors of anti-light - which is personal neglect and ultimate falsehood.
fantastic post.
Really there is no light or dark, everything just is. We see things as split because we are observing from our minds instead of perceiving from our hearts. When perception is from the heart there is oneness.
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The "dark" to me has become just a fantasy or illusion in my mind of something that does not exist. I'm telling you if you focus on it you will start to see it everywhere and it will consume your soul. The Devils (slanderer or accuser) trick is to get you to focus on it so when he has your attention he can trick you into believing something bad or false about yourself or life around you.
A lot of times other peoples darkness will poison you so you should keep away from such people.
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Duncan Rowhl said: The 'balance' of dark vs light is relative only to the material universe.
On a productive, spiritual level geared towards atonement, 'dark' is so called and so defined different because it is no less than spiritual poison.
The fact that dark is in amongst light just exemplifies the chaos and the fortitude that needs to be exercised to strain out as much of the bad as possible to follow the right path which is regularly littered.
'Bad' and 'dark' aren't just terms or subjective notions. They are significant descriptors of anti-light - which is personal neglect and ultimate falsehood.
fantastic post.
Really there is no light or dark, everything just is. We see things as split because we are observing from our minds instead of perceiving from our hearts. When perception is from the heart there is oneness.
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Duncan Rowhl said: The 'balance' of dark vs light is relative only to the material universe.
On a productive, spiritual level geared towards atonement, 'dark' is so called and so defined different because it is no less than spiritual poison.
The fact that dark is in amongst light just exemplifies the chaos and the fortitude that needs to be exercised to strain out as much of the bad as possible to follow the right path which is regularly littered.
'Bad' and 'dark' aren't just terms or subjective notions. They are significant descriptors of anti-light - which is personal neglect and ultimate falsehood.
fantastic post.
Really there is no light or dark, everything just is. We see things as split because we are observing from our minds instead of perceiving from our hearts. When perception is from the heart there is oneness.
Oneness is a delusion. Stay away from hive mind ideas or collective consciousness. Its not true and is really just a trap. We are individuals, we aren't ONE. Jesus in the Gospel of John wanted his followers to be ONE that's really the only kind of oneness that can be true. Not the BS oneness of new age religion which is nothing but a fly trap and delusion. Just focus on yourelf as an individual and advance spiritually. The ego wants to believe this oneness crap, that's the ego virus.
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Re: Dark side [Re: zersha]
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It's all shades of grey, the closer you get to the truth. To dwell on the dark side or focus on the light is to be blinded in either case.
Wear your shades the UV is off the scale now, UV-B and UV-C. The ozone layer is being systematically shredded by the constant aerosol assault and the ionospheric heating with microwaves.
When do the frogs actually realize the water is getting a bit hot?
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LunarEclipse said: To dwell on the dark side or focus on the light is to be blinded in either case.
I agree.
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Re: Dark side [Re: Lucis]
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Sorry, you can try to talk that oneness is an illusion. But when you truly experience oneness with everything, you realize that separation is the illusion. There is no argument here.
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I must of opened my pineal gland too far because i know what you're talking about. Its just the oneness idea has made me feel crazy far too many times. Oneness, for what? Everyone has their own beliefs. The only way oneness seems to be true is that we only see things through our own eyes and its relative to us. But that's our reality, it isn't how they view reality and may not even be real "reality". So you gotta understand this to not fall into delusion which is a very real danger. Its like Jesus(Divine Wisdom) said "Why do you see the speck in your brothers eye but do not consider the log that is in your own?", and again, "Whatever you measure out it will be measured to you again". He's speaking of judging, how we judge comes back to us and defines us, not that its how it really is. All that we see is like a mirror pointing back to ourselves. The mind only knows what its stored up in there, and stored in the heart. The heart has to be cleansed of evil and foolish thinking.
The children of God are one, you can say that. But there are those who hate and hurt others. Do you really want to be "one" with those? I'm just saying not everyone has the same priorities as you and this can cause a great deal of instability for you. In my mind thinking you're one with those is like making a deal with evil because then it has power over you. Since this idea infected your mind. You have to be in unity with those of the same mind as you, the same beliefs. That's the only way it will be real unity.
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BeLove111 said: Sorry, you can try to talk that oneness is an illusion. But when you truly experience oneness with everything, you realize that separation is the illusion. There is no argument here.
Everything is connected, sure. But for what and why, and is it a good unity or a bad one? The communists and nazis wanted unity, did they get it? Yeah sure, but it was an evil unity. Just like the new age movement or theosophical movement wants to do. A false union, not in truth. REmember in the Bible the Tower of Babel? The people were one language and tribe and they wanted to make a tower to reach heaven. But in the end they ended up with was Babylon (confusion)
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Duncan Rowhl said: The 'balance' of dark vs light is relative only to the material universe.
On a productive, spiritual level geared towards atonement, 'dark' is so called and so defined different because it is no less than spiritual poison.
The fact that dark is in amongst light just exemplifies the chaos and the fortitude that needs to be exercised to strain out as much of the bad as possible to follow the right path which is regularly littered.
'Bad' and 'dark' aren't just terms or subjective notions. They are significant descriptors of anti-light - which is personal neglect and ultimate falsehood.
+ 1
Nice post. I would like to add, look at the resonance in general among society?
Most are 'durring' around vibrating at a low level consciousness. Look at the mainstream media. There seems to be a general magnetic polarity among the two and yet, people tend to lean more toward one then the other.
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I have almost been swallowed up by either side in my quest for understanding, but I only find peace within being, just being. I have seen so much beauty in light, and so much beauty in dark. I have seen so much beauty in life, and so much beauty in death. I have seen so much beauty in science, and so much beauty in religion. It feels like the end, is just as beautiful as the beginning, this life, this cycle, I am grateful to be a part of it with you all.
I just want to be, which feels hard because this world seems engineered to get you to choose a side, and once you choose you play out your role serving whatever side you choose, and this world is cunning, sly as a fox, you will choose a side and not even realize it until you take a look at yourself with the proper mindset.
For example, I have known Christians to say they love their Christian god, but their actions are identical to what Satanists practice, they are fooling themselves by thinking this way, and very clearly chose Christianity because they were scared into doing so. This is an example of how we fall into a light/dark role without much of a choice, we might choose the religion of "light", but our actions are the real deciding factor in things, and we should take the time for some proper introspection to see who we really are, and then not worry about if we don't live up to others expectations about us spiritually speaking, because if we don't follow our hearts on the matter, then we will be living a lie. I have also known Satanists that were far more "Christian" in their actions, strange how this world works sometimes, this has lead me to believe that neither side can be right or wrong, and as long as you're not harming those around you, then you're doing just fine, see the life in death, see the death in life.
It's better to be living a life which some might put your down for, but at least is real, meaning if your whole family were followers of one faith, and you chose another one, it would be better for your mental health to follow what you found to be true, and not feel bad about it, rather than go along with your family members for the sake of their acceptance, because that would be acceptance though not being true to yourself, which is not good at all.
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