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Vichu9210
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Are these guys safe ?
#23811624 - 11/08/16 03:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi guys, this is my first post here , so I'm expecting a positive and quick support. Found these guys while trekking in Munnar, right near a peak near kodaikanal. The usual psilocybes here are subcubensis, and rarely some cubensis vanities during the onset of the monsoon. Although kerala has two indigenous varieties called psi. Keralensis and wayanadensis and I've no much idea about these species. These guys here have the typical shroom smell. But I need a safety confirmation. Hoping for a quick response:)

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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: Vichu9210]
#23811627 - 11/08/16 03:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are they staining blue where damaged?
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Vichu9210
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Yes , plucked them yesterday and they have started to look like this , too blue actually!
 This too , the color actually has left me in a dilemma.
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: Vichu9210]
#23811644 - 11/08/16 03:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is that manure they're growing from? That is some bluing.
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Vichu9210
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: Anglerfish]
#23811814 - 11/08/16 06:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's growing from wild elephant dung in the forest . Going by the looks it looks really powerful. But I don't know if they're toxic.
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: Vichu9210]
#23811835 - 11/08/16 07:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Vichu9210 said: It's growing from wild elephant dung in the forest . Going by the looks it looks really powerful. But I don't know if they're toxic.
They're copelandia cyanescens (or another copelandia species)- active and nontoxic (at least beyond hallucinogenic compounds of course)
Edited by pyrolight (11/08/16 07:14 AM)
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: pyrolight]
#23811853 - 11/08/16 07:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think they're a Copelandia sp. Look at a) the purplish brown spore deposits on the caps and b) the cap papilla. I don't know of any Panaeolus/Copelandia with a papillate cap.
I would say Psilocybe, but which one I can't tell.
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: Anglerfish]
#23811869 - 11/08/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Very cool find.
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: Anglerfish]
#23811966 - 11/08/16 08:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anglerfish said: I don't think they're a Copelandia sp. Look at a) the purplish brown spore deposits on the caps and b) the cap papilla. I don't know of any Panaeolus/Copelandia with a papillate cap.
Wow I really don't know what I was thinking at all- thank you for the correction
Edited by pyrolight (11/08/16 08:12 AM)
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Vichu9210
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: pyrolight]
#23812198 - 11/08/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So my question right before chewing into them is , they're good right ?
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Vichu9210
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: pyrolight]
#23812199 - 11/08/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So my question right before chewing into them is , they're good right ?
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: Vichu9210]
#23812218 - 11/08/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: Vichu9210]
#23812265 - 11/08/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Vichu9210 said: So my question right before chewing into them is , they're good right ?
Can you please dry and save a few of them? Someone would perhaps be interested in finding out which species they actually are. It would be a shame to eat a potential type collection.
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: Anglerfish]
#23812555 - 11/08/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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And make as many spore prints as possible. It is possible that it is one of the native species that you mentioned. They look potent as all fuck also, so if you eat some I would take it slowly
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: ambc]
#23812772 - 11/08/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ambc said: And make as many spore prints as possible. It is possible that it is one of the native species that you mentioned. They look potent as all fuck also, so if you eat some I would take it slowly
yes, please report back with bio-assay notes!
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: guyute22]
#23812865 - 11/08/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would love a few prints of these!
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Me too!
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: ambc]
#23813010 - 11/08/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hope he didn't chew them all down already.
I also hope Inski and Alan chime in.
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Vichu9210
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: Anglerfish]
#23815239 - 11/09/16 05:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gentlemen , I haven't munched on it yet , and about the spores , i think I've lost most of it when I washed them , but I have brought the whole dung back home and it has some cute babies growing in it , have wet it and put it in a box , let's see what happens .
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: Vichu9210]
#23815247 - 11/09/16 05:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Are these guys safe ? [Re: Vichu9210]
#23815253 - 11/09/16 05:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Vichu9210 said: Gentlemen , I haven't munched on it yet ,

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and about the spores , i think I've lost most of it when I washed them ,
Washing them as in rinsing with water is never a good idea with mushrooms. If they're dirty best way is to gently brush the dirt of with a brush or kleenex paper. You should however still be able to print them as long as they haven't dried completely.
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but I have brought the whole dung back home and it has some cute babies growing in it , have wet it and put it in a box , let's see what happens .
Please update us on the growth with some nice pictures.
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