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ballsalsa
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pasteurized cardboard?
#23810280 - 11/07/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So i tossed some corrugated cardboard into a pot of water with some black tea and coffee grounds. I let that sit on an electric stove on the lowest setting, being careful that it not boil for 1.5 hours. I also set the oven on its lowest setting (200 degrees F) and let a colander sit in there for the duration. I dumped the cardboard into the col lander and stuck it all back in the oven to cool. While it cooled, i washed and rinsed a cheap plastic container with scalding water. Then i put some rubbing alcohol in the container, closed it, and shook it up for 30 seconds. i poured out the alcohol and wiped the excess with a paper towel which i used to wipe down the outside of the container. I used a hot soldering iron to poke some small holes in the plastic lid and covered then with band-aid brand adhesive bandages. I separated the cardboard layers, placing the flat pieces on the bottom, and layering the corrugated layers with the corrugations perpendicular to each other. in between each corrugated layer i squirted 1 ml pleurotus ostreatus Djamor LC. I closed it up and stuck it in the back of a cupboard.
what's gonna happen?
Edit: it was pink oyster LC
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Edited by ballsalsa (11/07/16 08:33 PM)
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Re: pasteurized cardboard? [Re: ballsalsa]
#23811368 - 11/07/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pretty sure that oyster is rip through that cardboard in a hurry. You should supply pix when it does!
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ballsalsa
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that would be pretty cool. how fast is "in a hurry"
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Re: pasteurized cardboard? [Re: ballsalsa]
#23813448 - 11/08/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It depends on the culture and conditions, but I would expect to see something moving within 48hrs. Pink oysters are not as aggressive as other oysters but fast still in general.
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ballsalsa
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i cant see very well through this semi-opaque plastic, and i'm tempted to open the top and peek.
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Re: pasteurized cardboard? [Re: ballsalsa]
#23815948 - 11/09/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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there is a lot of condensation in the container. there is mist on every surface. is this way too wet? if so, how do i dry it a bit without fucking it all up?
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Re: pasteurized cardboard? [Re: ballsalsa]
#23816057 - 11/09/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you have a SAB? Open it inside and leave it to grow and dry in the air. Replace the lid and remove it when you think it is ready.
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Re: pasteurized cardboard? [Re: Ferather]
#23817986 - 11/09/16 11:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have colonized reishi jars and am considering using pasteurized cardboard as well. I've just never done it before and know exactly sure what to do.
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Re: pasteurized cardboard? [Re: ghaleon]
#23818633 - 11/10/16 07:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cover a tote with blanket or use a cooler ,tear up cardboard, pour in boiling water let set till cool, drain excess water, Fill growing container with cardboard and spawn .
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Re: pasteurized cardboard? [Re: Quadman]
#23818651 - 11/10/16 07:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Go for recycled card or paper pellets, so much easier.

I suggest enriching paper or cardboard.
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x 1 Dry Substrate | 1 Part(s) | 50% Water. x 2 Dry Substrate | 2 Part(s) | 66% Water. x 3 Dry Substrate | 3 Part(s) | 75% Water. x 4 Dry Substrate | 4 Part(s) | 80% Water.
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Re: pasteurized cardboard? [Re: Quadman]
#23821032 - 11/10/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quadman said: Cover a tote with blanket or use a cooler ,tear up cardboard, pour in boiling water let set till cool, drain excess water, Fill growing container with cardboard and spawn .
(I'm a noob but these are my concerns)
1) I don't think you can just use any old cardboard. Cardboard from China has dangerous toxins in them. From what I understand they're not suitable for this.
2) Also, aren't there specific ratios you must adhere to in order to successful fruit? Like for every quart of spawn you use 2 quarts of substrate (in this case cardboard)
3) I only have 1 pint of colonized reishi wbs and I don't think it's enough. Might have to do g2g to more jars. Is it enough?
4) I sorta lied in my previous post. I DID try this before in a small container but got black pin mold. The holes in the container weren't covered though but I didn't think it mattered. This guy (https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13387956/fpart/all/vc/1) did it in a bucket and didn't cover any holes.
5) I was thinking of buying vermiculite and sawdust to be used as substrate. Planning a monotub grow. I prefer conks over antlers but I don't care. I just want to grow something.
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Re: pasteurized cardboard? [Re: ghaleon]
#23821136 - 11/10/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
ghaleon said: I have colonized reishi jars and am considering using pasteurized cardboard as well. I've just never done it before and know exactly sure what to do.
When you make up your mind and want input I or someone else I'm sure will help.
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Re: pasteurized cardboard? [Re: Quadman]
#23821159 - 11/10/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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1) most Chinese cardboard originates in US , guess you have to test it if that is a worry 2) no specific ratio , more grain more energy and faster colonization Less grain with more substrate slower colonization easier to contaminate 3) see number 2 4) uncovered uncolonized substrate high chance of contamination 5) no need for vermiculite sawdust works ,use hardwood mulch if you want to add to sawdust
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Re: pasteurized cardboard? [Re: Quadman]
#23821181 - 11/10/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you read that post the member said he had mold at the holes.The bucket was 5 gallons of cardboard and he used 1 quart of spawn.
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#23827622 - 11/12/16 11:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good luck balls! I was googling cardboard substrate recipes, and this is the first thread I got! lol
I will be joining you shortly, buddy. I have some recycling to do
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Re: pasteurized cardboard? [Re: ballsalsa]
#23829718 - 11/13/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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no sign of life of any kind yet. the moisture issue seemed to mostly fix itself though.
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Re: pasteurized cardboard? [Re: ballsalsa]
#23830179 - 11/13/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have an idea that oyster mycelium is going to rip right through that shit. Wait til day 3-4, I bet it will surprise you.
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ballsalsa
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So it's day 7 and i see something alive in there. i'm a bit apprehensive because the only growth i see at all is a the bottom of the container where the most moisture has settled. Small white dots/blobs appearing at the edges of the cardboard where it touches the plastic. none bigger than 1/16 inch.
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Re: pasteurized cardboard? [Re: ballsalsa]
#23837624 - 11/16/16 03:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I spawned to bulk on Saturday and I'm slowly seeing growth. I think the problem on my end is that I didn't use enough grain. But it's colonizing slowly.
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