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OfflineLoveNaborFuckHater
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I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing
    #23809519 - 11/07/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I am a freshman in college and everything in my life is going great till bam I get fucking arrested for a warrant I had as a minor. Luckily I was a minor though bc they said if I had been an adult at the time then I would be facing 8-12 years no chance of probation. I live in TN and there was a warrant that said I sold 3.4gs of mush to a confidential informant.  I have a court date set in January. I passed the drug test they gave me (miraculously). I remember who the CI was. My lawyer though sounded like even tho I was a minor at the time I am still just as in deep shit because they can still prosecute me as an adult? Even though the petition is arresting me as a minor and the jail booked me as a juvenile.

The officer that brought me in gave me the number of the officer who's name is on the petition and said if I help him then they will help me. I'm not a snitch but I know people who are much bigger dealers now than what I was in high school. These people have also given me plenty of reasons to fuck them because of how badly they have fucked me as well as my friends. I called my lawyer upon my release this morning and he acted like I shouldn't help the officer.

Frankly, I know too many fucked up people who would be better off in jail. I have come way too far from distancing myself from an illegal lifestyle for the government to all of a sudden come arrest me out of nowhere. But would working with this officer drop the charges? Should I call the officer to see what he offers if I help him? Will he tell me what he can do for me if I give him a bigger target than what myself once was? The arresting officer told me to call the other officer ASAP. I wanted to talk with my lawyer though and ask his advice.

Keep in mind I am a student and am no longer into any shady business what-so-ever, but that means nothing to state I'm assuming. All my lawyer said was to keep my grades perfect for right now and pass the drug test in january. I was in jail from thursday till today (Monday) and I am not going back that was the worst days of my life.


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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #23809568 - 11/07/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know what to tell you except that LE rarely ever has your best intentions in mind even if they tell you likewise. Hopefully other people will chime in here. Best of luck in all this OP.

Edited by BoomBoom (11/07/16 12:27 PM)

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OfflineLoveNaborFuckHater
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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: BoomBoom]
    #23809661 - 11/07/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I talked to a friend who has done time but is now learning criminal defense and he said that snitching only makes it worse. He said they will keep harrassing you for more people if you give one person so I'm just going to stick to my lawyer.


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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater] * 8
    #23810659 - 11/07/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You are awful for even considering fucking someone else's life over to get yourself out of hot water. Doesn't matter how bad of a person you think they are.

You fucked up man, you gotta own it. Don't be that guy..


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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: sh4d0ws] * 1
    #23810681 - 11/07/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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sh4d0ws said:
You are awful for even considering fucking someone else's life over to get yourself out of hot water. Doesn't matter how bad of a person you think they are.

You fucked up man, you gotta own it. Don't be that guy..




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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23810712 - 11/07/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Snitches get stitches and are found in ditches.
If ya can't do the time, don't do the crime man.
First offense you're NOT going to penitentiary for an 8th of boomers.
Man up, plea not guilty and get a lawyer. You'll get probation and have to quit smoking pot, if you fail a whiz quiz you WILL see the state pen.
Most of all, learn from this.
I wish you all of the best.
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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23811193 - 11/07/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Especially as a student, you'll be fine. Snitching will, best case, lead to the cops calling you for names every few weeks, and worst case, well:

http://www.startribune.com/n-d-student-s-death-raises-questions-about-drug-informants-on-college-campuses/317440111/

Some departments use the "turn in two people of equal or greater value" method, and then start paying you chump change for everything after. Some will just string you along until you stop giving names (which will happen, you'll run out of people) and then just drop the full charges on you anyway. It's not a game you ever want to play.

Also, morally, come on. Step up. Take the year or two probation and just don't smoke for a while.

EDIT: Be ready for mind games when you turn them down. Cops lie as good as bankers, it's their job. They just need enough evidence for a conviction and they can collect their paycheck. It doesn't matter how they get the evidence.

Edited by Kryptos (11/07/16 09:59 PM)

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OfflineLoveNaborFuckHater
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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: Kryptos]
    #23811957 - 11/08/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Is it up to the judge whether I'm charged as an adult or minor? Am I likely to face just probation either way? Some people that read my petition seem pretty sure that I can only be charged as a minor, since I was 17 when it happened, and I was booked into juvenile rather than jail. Others are very unsure of how I'll be tried and make me sound like I'm fucked. One of the juvenile officers said "house-arrest" could be a possibility meaning I would just have to stay on campus and take my drug tests at the student health services.

Thanks for directing me away from snitching on someone else everyone, that's no longer something I am considering.

I haven't smoked any since thursday when I got arrested, but if I were to fail a test in court in january would I be facing years in the state prison? I have no idea how I passed that test I haven't gone a day without smoking wax since august. But if I pass it is that almost a sure-fire way to avoid time and only be on probation?

A.RichardTrickle, how effective would pleading not guilty be? Don't they have proof that I sold to the ci? I assumed my lawyer would be fighting for it to be dropped to a misdemeanor rather than a felony conviction.


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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #23812173 - 11/08/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

A.RichardTrickle said:
Snitches get stitches and are found in ditches.
If ya can't do the time, don't do the crime man.
First offense you're NOT going to penitentiary for an 8th of boomers.
Man up, plea not guilty and get a lawyer. You'll get probation and have to quit smoking pot, if you fail a whiz quiz you WILL see the state pen.
Most of all, learn from this.
I wish you all of the best.
Dick






Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

A trafficking charge in TN could get OP penn time.  Not 8 years.  But it really depends on the prosecution, judge, and honest details of the transaction.....was there a weapon? School you say?  Any minors close by?  All of these things can play out with a trafficking charge, and the judge can make examples out of anyone they want.

I know people who have skated on probation doing everything right. I know people who have gone to the joint for an f5.

Most likely?  You will get a treatment in lieu deal if you lawyer up properly and DON'T SNITCH!!!! You actually had to ask an attorney?  C'mon man.

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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater] * 1
    #23812379 - 11/08/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Your best bet is to get the best lawyer you can afford. One familiar in that area with drug cases (specifically trafficking cases) and one that knows the judges and prosecutors well (generally someone who has worked as a lawyer in that town/city for a long time)

Also, thank you for not considering snitching anymore.

Let us know how things turn out.


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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #23812407 - 11/08/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

what exactly are the charges?  what is the mandatory minimum and possible maximum sentence?  Is this your first offense?  is it your only criminal offense?


if it is your first, it will be reduced dramatically I'm sure. 


If it is your only criminal charge in your entire lifetime I would talk to that officer.  Tell him you have information but before you say ANYTHING you want FULL immunity, in writing, and whatever charge not only dismissed but wiped/sealed from your record, you can say that it will limit your employment opportunities later.

DO NOT SAY A WORD TILL YOU GET FULL IMMUNITY IN WRITING.  It's your future and your livelyhood at stake.  They will just watch them for a while and build evidence and determine what (if any) action to take.  But whether or not the cops find anything wont matter, your freedom will be secure either way.


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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: sprinkles] * 3
    #23812411 - 11/08/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Wow, sprinkles, I guess I should have known you were the scumbag type of person that snitches.

Still, that surprised me..


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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #23812419 - 11/08/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

oh my life is fucked already, I wouldnt snitch.  Unless whoever really pissed me off by ripping me off then they should watch their back.  There's worse things I could do besides snitching.

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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #23812427 - 11/08/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I just assumed you would as well, because you recommended it to this guy.

:shrug:


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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #23812443 - 11/08/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

if this is the only mistake OP has ever made and his record is otherwise clean then it is definately something he should consider.  His livelyhood is at stake in that case.  It's the difference between being a criminal and not being a criminal.  Its checking "yes" on a job application or rental agreement having ever being convicted of a crime. or owning a firearm.  Is it worth ratting out some piece of shit dirtbag who screwed you over?  you're damn right it is.  I know what I would do if that was my situation and I could be free and clear with an unblemished record.


Me, I am already a criminal.  Not a felon, but a rehab'd shitty driver criminal.


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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #23812457 - 11/08/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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LoveNaborFuckHater said:
I am a freshman in college and everything in my life is going great till bam I get fucking arrested for a warrant I had as a minor. Luckily I was a minor though bc they said if I had been an adult at the time then I would be facing 8-12 years no chance of probation. I live in TN and there was a warrant that said I sold 3.4gs of mush to a confidential informant.  I have a court date set in January. I passed the drug test they gave me (miraculously). I remember who the CI was. My lawyer though sounded like even tho I was a minor at the time I am still just as in deep shit because they can still prosecute me as an adult? Even though the petition is arresting me as a minor and the jail booked me as a juvenile.

The officer that brought me in gave me the number of the officer who's name is on the petition and said if I help him then they will help me. I'm not a snitch but I know people who are much bigger dealers now than what I was in high school. These people have also given me plenty of reasons to fuck them because of how badly they have fucked me as well as my friends. I called my lawyer upon my release this morning and he acted like I shouldn't help the officer.

Frankly, I know too many fucked up people who would be better off in jail. I have come way too far from distancing myself from an illegal lifestyle for the government to all of a sudden come arrest me out of nowhere. But would working with this officer drop the charges? Should I call the officer to see what he offers if I help him? Will he tell me what he can do for me if I give him a bigger target than what myself once was? The arresting officer told me to call the other officer ASAP. I wanted to talk with my lawyer though and ask his advice.

Keep in mind I am a student and am no longer into any shady business what-so-ever, but that means nothing to state I'm assuming. All my lawyer said was to keep my grades perfect for right now and pass the drug test in january. I was in jail from thursday till today (Monday) and I am not going back that was the worst days of my life.


I would go for a jury trial & tell them Mushrooms are part of your Religion as it is MINE!!! Best of luck to you.
If they prosecute they will be punished!!! If you snitch you will b punished alongside them also!!! Peace & Love


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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #23812473 - 11/08/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

that would be a good way to get back at some dealer selling bunk garbage.
tell them you ratted them out to the cops.  Let them stress and agonize over when cops are gonna come busting down their door.  They'll lose sleep.  start watching every car in their rear view mirror.  :haha: thats funny


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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: sprinkles]
    #23812702 - 11/08/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This is my first time ever being arrested. I actually thought I was being questioned instead because a friend i knew that went to a different high school got arrested earlier last week. I just found out yesterday he was arrested for buying a sheet from a DEA agent.

Yes I have a huge risk to my future profession, as I'm studying biochemistry and planning to go to pharmacy school - before getting my bachelor's degree if possible.

How do they know it was me that sold it? Now that I think back, I wasn't even in my car I'm pretty sure I served the guy in my girlfriend's car, but I hopped in the ci's car, not him in my gf's. And when I was being booked they asked me if my phone number was"****" and I said no and corrected them - the number they had on file was my old trap phone. The trap phone hasn't been used since April because that's when i quit selling. However I gave it to one of my other friends who still sells. He only used the phone for about a month though.  Furthermore, the phone and plan were both paid for by cash. When I set up the account I also used a fake name and email address.

The way I remember who the ci was is that i looked up the address on the petition and I only have ever served one person there. the guy i sold to was an acid dealer I was regularly buying from. He told me a few weeks before that he was facing charges in the same county for selling 7 tabs of acid to a ci.


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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater] * 2
    #23812732 - 11/08/16 01:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Kids these days.

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Re: I got arrested for my first time and don't know what I'm facing [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #23812950 - 11/08/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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LoveNaborFuckHater said:
This is my first time ever being arrested. I actually thought I was being questioned instead because a friend i knew that went to a different high school got arrested earlier last week. I just found out yesterday he was arrested for buying a sheet from a DEA agent.

Yes I have a huge risk to my future profession, as I'm studying biochemistry and planning to go to pharmacy school - before getting my bachelor's degree if possible.

How do they know it was me that sold it? Now that I think back, I wasn't even in my car I'm pretty sure I served the guy in my girlfriend's car, but I hopped in the ci's car, not him in my gf's. And when I was being booked they asked me if my phone number was"****" and I said no and corrected them - the number they had on file was my old trap phone. The trap phone hasn't been used since April because that's when i quit selling. However I gave it to one of my other friends who still sells. He only used the phone for about a month though.  Furthermore, the phone and plan were both paid for by cash. When I set up the account I also used a fake name and email address.

The way I remember who the ci was is that i looked up the address on the petition and I only have ever served one person there. the guy i sold to was an acid dealer I was regularly buying from. He told me a few weeks before that he was facing charges in the same county for selling 7 tabs of acid to a ci.



The DEA fucked with some kid over a sheet that THEY were selling them???
I call bullshit man.

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